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They Would Have Won The Cup With This Team

Créé par: AnalyticsGeek
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 11 août 2020
Publié: 11 août 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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While you can argue that there were several reasons that caused the Penguins to lose against Montreal, the biggest one for me was the lack of adjustment by the coaching staff to address weaknesses that were holding the team back.

The Penguins' third pairing defence was absolutely brutal especially as the series went on. They would get undersiege in the defensive zone pretty much every shift and give up prime scoring chances, killing any momentum generated by the rest of the team. The majority of the Penguins' goals against were in direct result of their poor play, so it didn't make any sense for them to remain in the lineup.

The third line forward had no chemistry and wasn't able to generate anything offensively for the team. I felt the issue was that the wingers did not have enough speed to keep up with McCann. Several shifts I noticed he would enter the offensive zone but would then need to wait for his wingers to join, allowing the opposition to take the puck and transitioning the other way. If the coach took out Marleau and swapped Hornqvist with Sheary, maybe things would've been different. It also seems that McCann plays better on the wing since there is less responsibility and he has more chance to use his speed to generate offence.

Management should be blamed as well since they were overconfident with this team and did not make the necessary moves to address the glaring weaknesses. They could've at least traded for an upgrade over Jack Johnson or Justin Schultz if the coaching staff wasn't confident with the alternative options remaining. The moves made at the deadline simply didn't work out.

I felt the Penguins played well during the first 2 games of the series. They controlled play by generating majority of the game's shots and scoring chances. After they gave up a 3-1 lead, they didn't have any jump or pushback the rest of the series. They were a defeated team. I made this armchair team looking at moves and lineup decisions the Penguins should've made in order to have a better chance.
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          11 août 2020 à 14 h 16
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          11 août 2020 à 14 h 17
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          Yeah GMJR botched the Kahun trade, Sheary isn’t good and is a UFA and Rodrigues only played in a couple regular season games.
          11 août 2020 à 14 h 19
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          The most hilarious thing in here is the concept of anyone claiming Johnson off waivers
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          11 août 2020 à 14 h 30
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          It's the lack of effort that doomed PIT. If they had McDavid...and still brought that same effort we saw...they would have lost.
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          11 août 2020 à 14 h 35
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          Definitely get past MTL without Jack Johnson. This is an improvement.
          11 août 2020 à 14 h 39
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          Quoting: Sabres923
          Yeah GMJR botched the Kahun trade, Sheary isn’t good and is a UFA and Rodrigues only played in a couple regular season games.


          I don’t necessarily think Sheary is bad but he wasn’t needed. It was obvious the Pens needed an upgrade over Johnson & Kahun had enough value to fetch a great shutdown D like McCabe.
          11 août 2020 à 14 h 42
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          Quoting: exo2769
          It's the lack of effort that doomed PIT. If they had McDavid...and still brought that same effort we saw...they would have lost.


          I agree that the players weren’t hungry, but I feel if the GM & coach presented a better team, then the core guys would’ve been more motivated. For example, the coach was playing JJ-Schultz against Montreal’s top players. How does anyone expect them to win like that? It basically killed all the momentum for them to keep going.
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          11 août 2020 à 14 h 42
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          Quoting: tulrich
          Definitely get past MTL without Jack Johnson. This is an improvement.


          Agree this is an insanely strong team IMO. Not a weakness.
          11 août 2020 à 14 h 45
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          I think it’s a much improved team but I don’t think we would win the cup. Our core is just at that point where their window is shut. I like that you solved the 3rd line C problem and the bottom pair is a lot better. I’d still play Jarry over Murray even though I think Murray gets too much crap
          11 août 2020 à 14 h 54
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          better team but doesn't win the cup....not having JJ-schultz doesn't fix the lack of intensity and lack of finishing, etc.
          11 août 2020 à 14 h 57
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          Quoting: edeangel84
          I think it’s a much improved team but I don’t think we would win the cup. Our core is just at that point where their window is shut. I like that you solved the 3rd line C problem and the bottom pair is a lot better. I’d still play Jarry over Murray even though I think Murray gets too much crap


          Thanks for the feedback. Maybe the cup is too much to ask for, but they should definitely make a run.
          11 août 2020 à 14 h 59
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          Quoting: Pens3lieve
          better team but doesn't win the cup....not having JJ-schultz doesn't fix the lack of intensity and lack of finishing, etc.


          I mean who knows, without JJ, Schultz & Marleau hurting the team maybe the intensity will pick up. The players just seemed fed up with the coaching decisions during this series.
          11 août 2020 à 15 h 17
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          It would have had a better shot. I think the Defense is really what killed us the most the JJ-Schultz pair was abhorrent and it really cant be understated. Im not sure that the third line you have there is particularly good. McCann was ROUGH and Erod doesnt belong above the 4th line. that ZAR-Teddy-Tanev line is obviously awesome but it doesnt score so its crucial that they do not become the 3rd line.

          I think to some extent the reality needs to be faced that its going to be extraordinarily difficult to win a cup with a core approaching their mid thirties. and its not a knock on Sid, geno, or letang. all still top players but father time always wins and they arent the players they were half a decade ago
          11 août 2020 à 15 h 26
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          It would have had a better shot. I think the Defense is really what killed us the most the JJ-Schultz pair was abhorrent and it really cant be understated. Im not sure that the third line you have there is particularly good. McCann was ROUGH and Erod doesnt belong above the 4th line. that ZAR-Teddy-Tanev line is obviously awesome but it doesnt score so its crucial that they do not become the 3rd line.

          I think to some extent the reality needs to be faced that its going to be extraordinarily difficult to win a cup with a core approaching their mid thirties. and its not a knock on Sid, geno, or letang. all still top players but father time always wins and they arent the players they were half a decade ago


          Thanks for the feedback. I think the third line is better than what they currently have. My opinion on why McCann struggled was that he wasn’t used properly. He needs to play with linemates who can keep up with his speed (Rodrigues can) & get him the puck in places in which he can use his shot (why I brought in Larsson). He just didn’t have any chemistry with Marleau & Hornqvist plus his offence started to dry up when they put him at center.
          11 août 2020 à 16 h 38
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          11 août 2020 à 16 h 40
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          Better, makes the playoffs, but not close to a cup. Pens have won their last cup in the Crosby-Malkin-Letang era imo.
          11 août 2020 à 16 h 42
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          they shouldve kept Kahun, that might have helped a little bit
          11 août 2020 à 16 h 53
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          Quoting: MitchMarnerElite
          I mean who knows, without JJ, Schultz & Marleau hurting the team maybe the intensity will pick up. The players just seemed fed up with the coaching decisions during this series.


          Honestly just take JJ off and replace him with a good 3rd pairing D and they're in the playoffs right now. He singlehandedly cost them game 1.
          11 août 2020 à 17 h 37
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          Buying out Jack Johnsson actually costs less than burying him.
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          Quoting: MitchMarnerElite


          What'd you guys think of this hindsight Pens team I created? Would they have been good enough to win the cup?


          Not winning a cup with Murray starting in goal...
          11 août 2020 à 18 h 22
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          Quoting: Sabres923
          Yeah GMJR botched the Kahun trade, Sheary isn’t good and is a UFA and Rodrigues only played in a couple regular season games.


          It is possible though, that the Kahun trade was due in part to the "future considerations" in the Sheary/Hunwick trade.
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          12 août 2020 à 10 h 48
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          Quoting: sabresparaavida
          It is possible though, that the Kahun trade was due in part to the "future considerations" in the Sheary/Hunwick trade.

          Good point
          12 août 2020 à 14 h 21
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          idk if we win the cup but we definitely make a run. at the same time, we'd make a run if JJ, Schultz, and Marleau decided to leave the bubble lmao
           
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