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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 11:56 am
Sujet: The trade that didnt happen at the draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>I had Eklund #2 behind Power for draft... <strong>All the more reason that Buffalo should have picked Eklund or traded down!</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodfella</b></div><div>I think it comes down to the philosophy of taking who you feel is the best player versus needs. <strong>I know you are correct, my biggest issue is the Sabres waste their picks. 2014 Reinhart over Draisaitl and 2016 Nylander over Sergachev. 2020 Quinn over Rossi, now so many people think Eklund will be special.</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_bettman</b></div><div>Wait, they're going to pull a Brent Burns on Rasmus Dahlin? It worked for Burnsie to improve his offensive game but he had a prime Joe Thornton to play with. Sabres don't have anything close to a prime Thornton with Eichel likely never playing a game for Buffalo again. Seems a terrible idea. <strong>I agree, Dahlin is LHD, often it takes years for a D-man to develop, Burns was 26 before he exceeded 40 pts for the second time, Chara was 27 before he scored 40 pts. in a season. IMO it would be a horrible error to move him to LW when the current LHD is Butcher, Hagg and Bryson.</strong></div></div> Thank you all for your constructive comments.
Too often when I make a post, I get push back even when I agree with the comment, by starting <strong>I agree!</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 9:21 am
Sujet: The trade that didnt happen at the draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodfella</b></div><div>Is this confirmed?</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_bettman</b></div><div>Jeff Marek/TSN said it was definitely in the works. Don't know why SJ backed out or if Sabres backed out. Sabres really wanted Eklund.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Zuki9797</b></div><div>Sam Reinhart + Isak Rosen for William Eklund ...</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>They were talking to Devils about moving up to #4 as well</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_bettman</b></div><div>Power and Eklund on the same team....</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>I don’t think they were, I thought there was speculation later in the draft with the devils.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MJC13</b></div><div>The Sharks backed out when Eklund fell to them. If Eklund was already gone the trade probably would've happened.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabres_Insider</b></div><div>It was on the sabres youtube as well. BUF was going to trade Reinhart+14 for 7OA, SJ backed out when a player fell, not sure if it was actually Eklund because why would SJ and BUF get into deep conversations about that pick when BUF was 100% going after Eklund</div></div> Levi, Hagg and second have marginal value, so Ristolainen and Reinhart for Eklund?
If Eklund is that good Buffalo should have taken him instead of Power.
Buffalo needs a center more than a LHD.
This is a perfect example of how stupid the Sabres are, they drafted a LHD and are now using a RW's at Center Thompson and Quinn.
Alternatively they could have traded down for the fifth OA, .
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 8:48 am
Sujet: 3 way
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>silentfox1</b></div><div>I don't think they will trade Krebs.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabres_Insider</b></div><div>sure</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>VGKNation702</b></div><div>VGK won’t do it because of Krebs, then you add Tuch too? Not happening</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheThunder</b></div><div>Because before he needed a neck surgery he was good zero games played by anybody who has had the surgery he wants let me say that again ZERO NHL GAMES</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>This is misleading, makes it sound like thr surgery has ended previous players careers</div></div> Let's be clear here, Buffalo is getting a first, a decent roster player and a decent prospect.
I like Tuch but he is not Jack, Krebs is a <strong>PROSPECT</strong> and a later first.
When the dust clears, Buffalo may end up with Tuch as the only return.
Second while the herniated neck is painful, it is not a career ending injury.
99% of neck herniated disks are treated with rest, rehabilitation and medication.
None of us know the seriousness of the injury, but according to reports other GM's who were given the MRI are now stepping up their offers.

Bottom line it is a good trade for all of the teams involved.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 8:28 am
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 8:03 am
Sujet: Buffalo
I really like Olofsson, but Buffalo has too many LH forwards.
Olofsson is the same age as Ristolainen so I could see him getting traded for 2 seconds.
While they will not score as many goals as Olofsson, Bjork, Girgensons, or Ruotsalainen could all move up to second line LW.
I tend to agree with <a href="/users/sabres89" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@sabres89</a> and <a href="/users/Skyraider112" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Skyraider112</a> he is worth a bit more than two late 2nd round picks (early 3rd round picks, Mike Weber returned a third for example)
Ruotsalainen could slip into the second line LW.
in '18-'19 he was only one goal behind Kakko, in '20-'21 he had 16 goals in 19 games in SM-Liiga, 13 AHL pts in 13 games and 5 NHL goals in 17 games.

The Eichel return is a bit light but Kakko, Georgiev and 2 first may be all Buffalo will get for Jack and another player has to be included to balance the cap.
<a href="/users/thewookie1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@thewookie1</a> yup, Gauthier, Kakko, and McKegg add nothing to the trade and would be actually useless as they would be taking up a roster spot.
Skinner,
This could be an interesting forward line up:
Skinner Mittelstadt Hinostroza
Ruotsalainen Cozens Kakko
Bjork Thompson Caggiula
Asplund Girgensons Okposo
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 10:38 am
Sujet: team germany
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>Easy decline from Buffalo. Holloway for Peterka maybe, but even then I'd be very wary. <strong>I would not do it for Holloway.</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>Huh? You'd be wary of making a deal that sees you trade the #34 pick for the #14 pick <em>straight up</em>? Not a chance Edmonton thinks about that counter offer even for a second. :tearsofjoy <strong>draft position means nothing, look at the 2014 draft would you rather have Sam Bennet taken 4th or Braden Point taken 79th?</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>You're overpaying for both Stützle and Peterka IMO. <strong>IMO it all depends on needs. This year Yamamoto would most likely outperform Peterka, the Sabre fans think in two years Peterka will be better than Yamamoto.</strong></div></div> Considering the lack of depth and If the Sabres were in a win now mode they may consider Yamamoto for Peterka,
I think the Sabres are trying to get a chance the golden ring this year, so this is a no, we do not want to make that team better this year.
Let me add, I have not watched Yamamoto, but I have watched Peterka in the prospect challenge and the preseason games this year.
He is fast, he has a hard and accurate shot, over two years of drafts, he was beyond a doubt the best player taken by Adams (Power may be better but I have not watched him play).
Buffalo was given a gift in the second round last year, IDK how he lasted that long, they made a great decision to move up.
<strong>The bottom line, I like the future of Peterka more than I like the current Yamamoto.</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GMWed at 10:05 am
Sujet: eichel baby
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jacobla</b></div><div>there is a f prospect and a d prospect.

zary is a forward.
valimaki is a dman.
monahan is a center.</div></div> I guess the Sabre fans think Monahan will be a Sabre as they think Valimaki will be a life long Sabre.
Obviously Monahan will be traded faster than a NY minute.
I do not mind getting the best players available and IMO Valimaki would be a better choice over Dube.
I was very impressed with Samuelsson and Bryson last year, but what do these myopic Sabre fans think will happen when Power and Johnson get to play in the NHL, someone will be traded.
DobberProspects rates Juuso Valimaki as a top pairing NHL LHD.
EDIT:
Let me add, now that Giordano is a Kraken, was Valimaki to get more ice time this year?
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 10:47 am
Sujet: Ok Fine An Eichel Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>From CBJ's perspective:..</div></div> Great comment, I rarely receive such a detailed reply to my posts.
You are correct preseason does not translate to the NHL, but the Sabres were competitive in the other two games, and easily outclassed by the Jackets.
I also liked all of the moves the Jackets made in the off season.
Voracek simply over powered the Sabres.
Boqvist will be solid at RHD.
Jack may be enough to put the team over the top.
Many Sabre fans think they are going to get a a couple of firsts, and a prospect who has a ceiling as high as Jack's.
I think Buffalo will get a couple of decent prospects who have 2nd line futures who may jump to the top line occasionally, a couple of picks (maybe 2 firsts), a roster player who is added to balance the cap.
If Domi and Nyquist could rebound this trade is a huge return.

But to your comment, I understand you feel that Columbus is moving pieces that do not fit into the Jackets future, adding them only makes the trade more palatable to Sabre fans.
Let's presume that trade is made and Skinner, Domi and Nyquist all respond extremely well to the Granato system, this could be an interesting line up:
Skinner Domi Nyquist
Olofsson Mittelstadt Cozens
Bjork Thompson Hinostroza
Caggiula Girgensons Okposo.

I do not know enough to judge is Korpisalo could win some games when the team is playing poorly.

Again thank you for taking the time to respond.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 10:21 am
Sujet: Eichel
Enough for Jack, but not for both.
Just dreaming a little here.
If the Sabres had not traded Ristolainen and Reinhart, while retaining Ullmark that would be great return for Jack.
Rebuild on the fly.

Skinner Domi Reinhart
Olofsson Mittelstadt Nyquist
Bjork Cozens Thompson
Caggiula Girgensons Okposo
Skinner and Domi with Reinhart could be a good top line if all Jeff and Max were to rebound.
Nyquist would lend the veteran stability to the second line.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nate</b></div><div>...and this is not that, plus you want Olofsson. I do like Eichel to CBJ though, a team running Eichel, Sillinger, Chinakhov, Laine, Bjorkstrand, and Voracek would be really fun to watch</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>...I also don't give an unprotected 2022 1st.
My counter is (just for Eichel):

<strong>- 2022 2nd;
- 2022 1st (CHI);
- 2023 1st (Maybe top-10/5 protected);
</strong>- Foudy;
<strong>- Texier;</strong>
- <strong>Domi, Nyquist</strong> (if you guys want either one, or <strong>you pick, either one works for me</strong>);
- Voronkov;...
Just the players in bold would be enough for Jack.
Both Domi and Nyquist would be too much.</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 9:33 am
Sujet: Ok Fine An Eichel Trade
Let me begin, I watched three Sabre preseason games, the Jackets were the best team Buffalo played.
Second, that is a HUGE offer for Jack.
Voronkov, probably a bottom 6 forward removing him would not change the trade IMO.
Domi, ($2,500,000 retained) who knows what he will be, IMO he is added to balance the cap.
Foudy, probably a mid 6 forward, he could also be removed and not affect the trade.
Texier, best part of the trace top 6 center would challenge Mittelstadt and Cozens for ice time.
Korpisalo, ($1,400,000 retained) IDK how to value him, some one tell me, Buffalo could use him, maybe they do not as they want to be bad this year.
Nyquist, ($2,750,000 retained) a solid veteran center at half price. IMO he should not be included as the Jackets could use him to make the playoffs.
2022 1st round pick (CHI)
2022 2nd round pick (CBJ)
2023 1st round pick (CBJ) Make this condition on Jacks performance.

Alternatively:
Trim this down to 2 firsts, second, Domi (or Nyquist), and Texier, no retention and no conditions.
Buffalo takes the risk that Domi will rebound and resign.
Jackets takes the risk that Jack will play this year.
What if Buffalo were to add Miller what would the Jackets add to my suggestion?

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mauston_atthews</b></div><div>One of chinakov or boqvist has to be included along with more <strong>I think this is a good offer and Buffalo may accept.</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MauriceRichard1028</b></div><div>People on this site don't know what constructive feedback is ...<strong>OMW, I agree. I get people arguing with me when I will say "I AGREE".</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>Sillinger won't be traded. ... <strong>Sure this is a good offer IMO.</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>I'd want some sort of risk mitigation w/r/t Eichel's injury in the form of conditions on the picks or something similar.<strong>Sure!</strong></div></div>

<strong>Maybe other Sabre fans would disagree, but I would do back flips if this was the offer.
Nyquist could be flipped for additional picks to a team looking for 2B RW.
If Domi rebounded and resigned, Buffalo could move Cozens to wing.</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 8:55 am
Sujet: Cup Contenders
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>Eichel also has a broken neck and may never be the same player with either surgery 10m is alot to take on not knowing wtf you are getting for a player in return, you could be getting the superstar at 25 years old still, you could be getting a guy whos ltiretired for the rest of his career and cant play hockey again. im assuming these picks are straight up but ide imagine any sort of eichel deal for any team has conditional 1sts that become way lesser picks if he doesnt hit GP or Point thresholds after surgery. I really dont see many teams offering more than 2 firsts 2 seconds and a roster player. regardless of retention or whatnot. Im sure they can make the cap work for a deal using any plethora of guys. <strong>Let' s be clear Jack does not have a broken neck.</strong>
<strong>Second, my objection to the trade is retaining $2,500,000.</strong>
<strong>I gave several examples of the cost of retention, did you happen to over look those?</strong>
<strong>Then I gave a reasonable offer without the retention. It would be nice if you responded to that.</strong>
idc if buffalo goes 0-82 grz is still a valuable piece in any deal. hes a better dman all around than colin miller and buffalo gave up a 2nd and a 5th for him iirc. For those that are down on vaak and freddy. Freddy is a high intensity grit 4th liner atm might become a 3rd if he develops but probably only a 4th liner, that being said hes still an nhl player at 23 yo, not like this is what he is for the rest of his career. Vaak looked great until his concussion a few years ago, some guys take longer to recover, hes taking a bit longer to get his groove back. Hes only 22 and still believe he has high enough upside there. <strong>First I completely agree that Grzelcyk is the center piece. I wonder if you actually saw that, for you to start your comment about him.
Second, 4th line players are added to the line for free by signing UFA's, Frederic is not a valuable addition to the trade.
So Vaakanainen is damaged goods? So let's not add any conditions and Buffalo will take the chance that he is good and Boston takes the risk that Jack will be the same.
Jack returning to full capabilities is more likely than Vaakanainen being a top 6 player.</strong></div></div>
I guess you did not notice that I objected to the retention and what that much retention will cost.
Nor did you notice the I agreed that Grzelcyk is a valuable asset.
I wonder why you chose to ignore my alternative trade, I am responding to your comment, you are obviously not responding to mine.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 7:49 am
Sujet: Big trade and some little ones
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhroblak</b></div><div>Arizona and Buffalo decline, Ottawa probably also declines</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Whether any of the above would go through or not, good luck with the cap in 2022</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM69</b></div><div>rangers decline the buffalo trade unless it comes at 50% retained by buffalo and 50% by another team so we get eichel for 2.5m</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>delneggs</b></div><div>Most ridicules Eichel trade in a long time. Even for a pens fan. Pure nonsense.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresforlife</b></div><div>NY hasn't made half that offer - they may at some point offer Kakko if he doesn't start to show a little more.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Once Chris Drury signed Mika Zibanejad to his 8 x $8,500,000 that pretty much ended any hope of landing Jack Eichel. Adding Eichel would definitely screw up signing Fox next year long term.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Josh</b></div><div>Troll</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BestGMBenning</b></div><div>There can be more moves made later. Easy work</div></div> Karmanos would do cartwheels to have that return.
For that return, Buffalo would retain 50%.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 9:30 am
Sujet: Buffalo fans price check
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>Sure but what's the point in acquiring a promising young player if there is no place for him to play in the lineup? Sure he could play 3rd pair LHD this year but for next year I envision Dahlin, Power, and Samuelsson down the left which will be the best left side in the NHL by a mile in a couple years. Heck Johnson who is a high B prospect has no place on the team in the future unless someone switches sides. Sabres could desperately use another RHD prospect though because asides Joki (who is a 2nd pair guy at best) and Laaksonen (who again is a 2nd pair guy at best) we lack any organization depth there. Would love to see us acquire or draft a extremely solid stay at home D-man for Dahlin</div></div> I said you are 100% correct, Buffalo needs RHD.
Your assessment of Jokiharju and Laaksonen is perfect.
I noticed today a LHD prospect (Juolevi) was traded for a RHD (Juulsen) prospect, any one of Bryson, Samuelsson, Butcher, Hagg, or Beaudin could be traded for a RHD IMO.
Obviously not a top pairing RHD, but if the Sabres had 3 RHD as good as Jokiharju, I would be satisfied with any two of them paired with Dahlin or Power.
Beaudin is only one of the pieces, Strome, Nylander and a second.
Those last three pieces are nearly enough for Olofsson.
When I see the Sabres are going to have Thompson at Center, it is obvious we need both a center and RW.
Let me add, Olofsson did not have a great preseason, if we could get that many pieces for him, it would be a killing.
On a side note, it would be great if the Krakens put Borgen and the Hawks put Nylander on waivers. With the worse record, Buffalo could get them both back for nothing.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 11:06 pm
Sujet: Buffalo fans price check
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>The problem is we do not need LHD nor do we have room. Sure Beaudin is a great prospect but with Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, Johnson in the pipeline there he has no place. Unless Beaudin can play right there is no reason to acquire him</div></div> You are correct Buffalo has several apparent NHL ready prospects.
The key word is prospects, Beaudin would be nice to add to the mix.
Strome and Nylander would fit very nicely into the line up and then there is that second round pick.
There is no doubt that this would be a HUGE return for Olofsson.
Especially since Buffalo has Girgensons, Bjork and Ruotsalainen who could all play LW (not to mention Asplund and Caggiula).
Nylander would almost definitely slide into the RW line up behind Thompson and Hinostroza.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 4:17 pm
Sujet: Trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Mayeb im just high on Hirvonen personally</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nate</b></div><div>No, you're right. Hirvonen is a super talented prospect. I like Olofsson but man he is going to cost a ton this offseason and J don't think Toronto can facilitate that</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Byrr</b></div><div>Olofsson isn't the kind of forward the Leafs have been high on. Very little impact at 5on5, PP specialist. Doesn't really bring any intangibles. Doubt Dubas would trade for him.</div></div> People like to complain about TML fans over valuing their players.
Buffalo gets:
Hirvonen, 59 OA from 2020
Mikheyev, a RW PK specialist
2022 2nd round pick (TOR) from a good draft.
This punches three of Buffalo tickets Center. RW and picks.
What Buffalo fan in their right mind would say no to this trade.