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gretzkyghosts

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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 22 heures
Sujet: eichel update 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>soooonk</b></div><div>Agree with you on Parsons, although if hes a throw in, its good to have options.
Phillips has potential, but needs the opportunity.
I wouldn't say nobody wants Kylington, I just think the price is too high because of how good of a skater he is and how hard that is to find.
For OP, I think you would have to swap Monahan for Zary to make the trade work. Buffalo is going to want to get a lot younger.</div></div> You are correct Parsons is a throw in but throw in a prospect who does not play GK.
With Levi, Portillo and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen the Sabres have a really good GK prospect pool.
Phillips is probably an OK prospect and he plays center.
Kylington is also and OK add on but he plays LD, with Dahlin, Powers, Hagg, Bryson, Samuelsson, and possibly McCabe and Pilut, Buffalo does not need another.
I think you need to keep Monahan in the trade to balance the cap. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>What are you talking about?? Two legit NHLers, one in Tkachuk that is a Line 1 LW, and a 2nd line center, plus 2 first round picks.</div></div> Where does Tkachuk come into the conversation?
Was he in the trade originally?
Let's presume this is the asking price:
<strong>One young C </strong> Dillon Dube
<strong>A Prospect</strong> 2024 1st round pick (CGY) and 2022 3rd round pick (CGY)
<strong>B prospect</strong> Matthew Phillips
<strong>1st round pick</strong> 2022 1st round pick (CGY)
<strong>Salary back</strong> Sean Monahan
I think it punches all of the tickets. Monahan is not a pure cap dump, but the picks do not guarantee value.
Overall, I think it is a fair offer and Buffalo may accept it.
Replace Parsons and Kylington with a prospect of equal value and I cannot see Buffalo rejecting this offer.
Shibbal18 likes to think he could be an NHL GM and knows more than all of them combined.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures
Sujet: Based on new rumors
Solid input from both of you.
I am a Sabre fan here and think this would be the MAX that Buffalo could expect in an Eichel trade.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>Any team trading for Eichel will be giving up 4 or more pieces... some extras here for the other guy...</div></div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tsyls</b></div><div>Buffalo isn’t going to want 6 different players. They’ll want 3 or 4 at most that are of quality. That’s the issue. I thought the asking price for Eichel was something like:
One young C <strong>Chytil, Filip </strong>
A Prospect <strong>Kravtsov, Vitali</strong>
B prospect <strong>Jones, Zachary</strong>
1st round pick <strong>2022 1st round pick (NYR)</strong>
Salary back <strong>Strome, Ryan</strong>
<strong>If Hájek and 2022 2nd round pick (STL) are for Miller, Buffalo would be crazy to say no.</strong>
Likely don’t need to send as many pieces. I’m sure something like Chytil + Kakko + Schneider + Strome + 2022 1st would do it.
<strong>IMO, Buffalo would kill to get this return.</strong></div></div> I hope we can agree on this.
While Buffalo does not need D-men prospects, I think without Ristolainen, Miller will get more PP time and could return to his previous offensive output then the Sabres could flip him at the TDL.
TBH, I think Girgensons would be included in the trade instead of Miller.
I understand the Rangers are looking to add some grit to the bottom 6.
I am probably rating Zemgus too high but the 2022 2nd would be close to his value.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 6:00 pm
Sujet: Rumors - Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Poehling</b></div><div>https://twitter.com/the_creasy/status/1419327529392001026?s=21</div></div> Thanks for the link. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kotkaniemi15</b></div><div>More likely that C is referring to Suzuki. Which would be a no from Montréal.</div></div> Maybe but I structured it as this based on the tweet:
Young C (<strong>Kotkaniemi</strong>)
A prospect (<strong>Romanov</strong>/Guhle)
B prospect (<strong>Poehling</strong>/Ylonen)
1st RD Pick
Salary Dump (Byron/<strong>Drouin</strong>)
It is possible that Drouin needs a change and could return to his "18-'19 level
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tarlam01</b></div><div>Would rather give a D than Ylonen, we have little to no one on the wings... Plus the guy that posted that on twitter isn't really the type of guy I would trust but.... If it's true like you said, I'd think twice about that one...</div></div> Well MTL would need to give up something of value, do you not agree. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tarlam01</b></div><div>Suck having KA as GM. Litteraly just gave Reinhart, I don't think Eichel will fetch what some ppl are saying he will. Going to be a lot lower than that even though he's a fantastic player. Return will still be a lot. Expect something like the Jones return my friend</div></div> Not just Sam, but the entire draft. Rosen was pegged to be an early second or a late first, Poltapov was predicted to late in the second AFTER the Boston 2nd round pick.
So if KA did not make the trade with PHI, he could have had the same two players. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kedogs00</b></div><div>Then there isn't a discussion to be had.</div></div> Well we can always negotiate. But look at the changes I made based on the tweet. Would you do that?

EDIT:
Let me add, I am happy that Drouin is currently considered a cap dump.
$5,000,000 for two goals is worse than Skinner.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 10:03 pm
Sujet: New look panthers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DogDayCaps2</b></div><div>WTF a goalie drafted in the 7th round+ late 1st gets you SR? Risto literally got kings ransom this league is so confusing</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Deaner37</b></div><div>Levi looks very promising. Believe he won Canada gold this year at WJC</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Canada didn't win</div></div> Canada took the Silver.
Levi was a brick wall in net.
0.75 GAA and 0.964 SV% over 7 games.
Dobber ranks him very low https://dobberprospects.com/team/florida-panthers/ giving him almost no chance of being in the NHL.
He did not play a single game for Northeastern University this past season, but he did excel the previous year the Carlton Place Canadians.
8 SO 1.47 GAA 34 won 2 lost 1 tied and a 0.941 SV%. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=226016
Maybe he is ranked low because he is listed as 6'0" which is now considered short for a GK.
So if he is not a GREAT GK prospect Florida got Reinhart for cheap.
If he is a solid NHL GK, then it was a fair trade.
Because he is in College, Buffalo has several years before they need to sign him as he will not be in the NHL for several years.
If they wait too long, he could take the Cal Peterson path and opt not to sign with Buffalo and become a free agent.
Buffalo did not draft a GK this year, so I presume the discussions were near completion, just debating about the draft choice.
Getting him in a trade is a little strange, because, I presume they are close to signing Ullmark as they did not move him at the TDL plus they have Erik Portillo and Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen in the pipeline.
I guess one can never have too many GK prospects..
I thought I was clearing up the mess, but maybe I just muddied the waters. LOL

EDIT:
I forgot to add.
When I saw what Buchnevich returned to the Rangers, I knew the return for Reinhart would be poor.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 10:18 am
Sujet: Ny Rangers REAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>LOL no NY. Eichel isnt going there for your B levels. Yesterday Buchnevich was going to be the main part, he go Blias and a 2nd. Eichel is going west</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ccmon39</b></div><div>Saying the rangers will get Eichel for that return is wrong. Rangers fans can stop thinking their 3rd liners are going to be enough. If you want eichel it's gonna cost you laf and more.</div></div> Absolutely nothing in that trade to help Buffalo!
Well my friends this is the other item I think is amazing.
McNabb and 2024 3rd round pick (VGK) for Chytil!
If this is what the Rangers think is the value of Filip, why did so many include him as a center piece in trade for Jack?
When I saw the Buchnevich trade yesterday, I thought a Jack trade would be made before the draft started.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 10:07 am
Sujet: Big Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>0 chance Kakko is moved after buch</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kedogs00</b></div><div>this would be my guess of what the trade would look like, or very close</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jasonliq</b></div><div>Yes But the Seattle one now is 100% not happening and the eichel one can but the rangers are not willing to give up that much</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>moli92</b></div><div>Why is the SEA deal not happening? There seems to be mutual interest there</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Book_Hockey</b></div><div>No chance they move Kakko. Not worth it.</div></div> Unlike many Sabre fans I think Strome could be a good asset in a trade for Eichel.
When I saw the Buchnevich trade yesterday, I was certain the Rangers were going to make deal for Jack.
Up until yesterday I would not have wanted to add Lundkvist to any deal, but with Ristolainen gone, he is now a good asset.
OK, let's take Kakko out of the deal and add Strome.
Strome, Lundkvist, Chytil, 2021 2nd and 2022 1st.
I would do that deal if I were KA.
It is less than the proposed trade, but it still makes sense for Buffalo.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 5:20 pm
Sujet: Dougie Hyman 2nd in a weak pacific
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Holland has already said the team will not be qualifying Kahun, Koskinen has no value, what he does have is a terrible contract and he was awful last year.</div></div> You are correct on both accounts.
Just a different angle.
Kahun's QO is only $1,170,000
While Koskinen was terrible last year, Buffalo does not have an NHL GK under contract.
If they can bring Ullmark back Koskinen would be an adequate back up.
If the cannot bring Ullmark back Koskinen would the #1 GK.
Regardless, Buffalo is not giving up anything to get a back up GK and a forward who had 9 goals last year.
Both could be buried in the AHL (if no one claimed them) for less than $2,000,000 together.
On the other hand if Jack and Sam are traded Buffalo may need help reaching the cap floor.
So in conclusion, I am not advocating to make this trade but it is not that bad.

Here is an alternative Neal and Koskinen for EDM 2021 first round pick.
If jack and Sam are moved, it could give KA 5 first round picks this year.
Forum: Buffalo SabresFri at 3:01 pm
Sujet: Im Sorry
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyFan989</b></div><div>Well good for them.. they needed some good news, thrilled Chevy stayed away
Who’s knows what the other trades value is gonna be tho… the other gm’s prob rnt that willing to pull a Fletcher
But if Risto turns it around like ROR did…. HUGE win</div></div> Actually ROR performed about the same in Buffalo as he did for the Blues.
The Blues missed the playoffs by one point the previous year and he just put them over the top.
But interesting that you mention O'Reilly, this is nearly the same return. The only difference Hagg v Thompson both trades included a 1st and 2nd.
But reading the tea leaves, I think we not see my favorite defenseman in a Sabre uniform again, Jake "The Snake" McCabe.
Too many LHD and not enough of roster spots, unless a LHD slides to the right...
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 8:22 pm
Sujet: NYR 22-23 can they fit Eichel and keep their players
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BLH</b></div><div>Note, e.g., Kessel deal from TOR to PIT. And he wasn't injured like Eichel.</div></div> Some people do not understand value.
It may not be the GM who decides not to retain, but I would.
Imagine a top line of Skinner - Strome - Buchnevich
Strome may produce enough for a GM to consider picking him up at the TDL for a first with additional retention.
Is Reinhart is traded Buchnevich would make a very nice replacement.
If he was traded he would bring back a mid first and a decent prospect who has the value of a first.
Add Kravtsov and the Sabres could be receiving nearly 6 first round draft picks for Jack (one for Strome, Kravtsov, two first round picks and two for Buchnevich).
Even with $2,000,000 that is a huge return.
Even an idiot as KA would be a fool to not make that deal.

EDIT:
Kessel is not Eichel but he did help the pens win two cups and the return for him was nothing as good as this return.

Second EDIT:
BTW that trade punches 4 tickets for the Sabres. Center, RW, GK and picks.
It fills needs unlike trades that are offering defensemen.