19 avr. 2018
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>I'd be all for staying pat until the deadline but how else do you anticipate improving the RHD hole? The team is ready to make steps forward and if they go on a run that will need to be addressed sooner rather than later.</div></div> Buffalo has missed the playoffs 11 straight years, but some Buffalo fans are smarter ("Or we just stick with dahlin/jokiharju/Lyubushkin at RHD this year and keep building.") than the four Cup finalists who all had 3 LHD and 3 RHD.
The crazy idea that Buffalo is giving away Mittelstadt and not getting quality in return is just insane.
To date Casey has one year with 12 goals, Matt averages 12 goals/82 games.
Trade for him and sign him ASAP, if he does not want to sign with Buffalo, then trade him at the TDL for multiple picks (unless Adams is making the trade, then the Sabres may only get a third).
I could only dream of having three scoring defensemen on the same team (Dahlin, Power, Dumba).
Finally, Dumba will not turn 30 until the start of the 2024 season, Mark Giordano will be 39 next October and he only exceeded the 35 pts he scored last year six times in his 15 year career.
I am not worried about signing Dumba to an 8 year contract at $7,000,000 AVV, Defense Men age very well.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Terry_AkiSauce</b></div><div>There's just no way Buffalo moves Tuch & Tage even though that is very good value, a big overpay by the Leafs</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Tbh I don’t even know that it’s an overpay. Thomson is a legit top 6 center and Tuch might be just as good or better than Nylander anyway. He just produced less in Vegas cause he was further down in the lineup then he should’ve been.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabresparaavida</b></div><div>Sabres decline. Nylander is only signed for 2 years and if we trade Tuch and Thompson, it’s unlikely we’re competing for those two years.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>Ahhhh a big no way from buffalo.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Funksoljah</b></div><div>Nylander only averaged about 10 seconds of ice time less per game than Tuch. Nylander also averaged almost a minute more per game at even strength, a few seconds more on the PP which is negligible and over a minute less on the PK. Citing ice time is pointless without proper context. Nylander also played substantial minutes with Matthews and Tavares. While I love Thompson, those 2 are far better centers offensively.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhuntlol</b></div><div>Fat no from the leafs , Nylander+Knies > Thompson and Tuch in terms of value imo, Knies will potentially be the best player of the 3.</div></div> Very interesting conversation.
Sort of which is your favorite ice cream, Vanilla or Chocolate, Tuch or Nylander.
They bring different attributes to the ice and which of those qualities are most needed will determine which player is most valuable at the moment.
Of course it is an over pay, take out Tuch and Nylander, leaving Robertson, Hirvonen, knies, 2024 1st and 2024 2nd for Thompson would be more than Buffalo got for Eichel.
Unfortunately, even this year Buffalo is close to being a playoff team (still missing the dance by 10 to 15 points), this trade would push that playoff game back a couple of years.
Here is the irony, if Tuch was a Sabre on October first 2021, it would have been laughable to turn down Nylander for Tuch and Thompson.
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oliver_wahlstrom</b></div><div>This team is truly a superstar forward away from being big time contenders. All they need is for one of Quinn, Cozens Thompson or Savoie to become that guy. Or with a bad season this year, one of Michkov or Bedard. Also <strong>Levi </strong>will be in the NHL in two years. NCAA this year then a few weeks in AHL then NHL. He is that good</div></div> Buffalo could have three superstars by 2024-2024, Power, Dahlin and Levi.
There was only one Superstar on the Bruins 1990-1991 team which made it to the third round
23 Craig Janney
8 Cam Neely
10 Ken Hodge
27 Dave Christian
20 Bob Sweeney
26 Glen Wesley
12 Randy Burridge
28 Garry Galley
36 Jim Wiemer
32 Don Sweeney
19 Dave Poulin
Only Christian and Neely exceeded 200 career goals, the 1989-1990 team actually made it to the cup finals.
I see the Sabres mirroring the 1992-93 Canadians!
No super stars just a lot of good solid players with a great GK.
I may be a dreamer but I think Skinner, Thompson, Olofsson, Quinn and Tuch could all exceed or be close to 30 goals.
Cozens, Mittelstadt, Krebs, and Peterka in the 15 to 20 goal range.
<a href="/users/sabres89" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@sabres89</a> "we basically have 3 lines of skill players"
Get one more solid RHD (let me say it again all four cup finalists played with 3 RHD and 3LHD)
Levi has the potential to be a Vezina winner.
Dahlin and Power play up to their expected potential I can see the Sabres getting to the playoffs without a super star, then anything is possible.
Unfortunately I got my hopes up 8 year ago when ESPN had 8 Sabre prospects ranked among their top 72:
We all know how that turned out.
Somehow this feels different.
Primarily Murray is not the GM, Karmanos seems to making the trades and Crowe is directing the drafting along with Ventura.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>I think you want the spots so you can facilitate a trade, maybe as a third team at the deadline. That might be a pipe dream though, it would have to be a contract that is ending at seasons end, and it would still have to be at least a 2nd round pick or it isn't worth it. Also, I hate to say it, but olofsson could be moved at the deadline if a first is coming back, and they might consider retaining (although he's under contract for next year, which adds a bonus year of retention, which makes it not a great idea).</div></div> This is crazy time right now.
Look what Vegas had to do.
Gave away Pacioretty with Coghlan as a sweetener and took on Shea Weber LTIR contract just to move Evgeni Dadonov so the cap could be reduced by $5,000,000.
That is a lot of talent to move to get nothing in return.
I hope Pegula will open up his moth laden wallet and allow Karmanos to make deals to take on cap, because you are correct.
While no playoff team wanted to give up assets for Pacioretty at $7,000,000 for a full season at the TDL many teams would have given up more than a first for a pt/gm LW at $3,500,000 which would have added less than $1,000,000 to their cap.
There will be many teams giving up assets when opening day rolls around and they need to get below the cap, I hope the Sabres can take advantage.
BTW at the TDL Holl would probably fetch a decent return at 50% retention as well, so maybe you and <a href="/users/BCAPP" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@BCAPP</a> are correct to not retain before the season starts.