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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures
Sujet: Decisions Decisions Decisions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>Please for everyone's benefit, don't put EJ on his off hand </div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Go with 2 goalies, even if it means starting Levi in AHL.
Add Kulich (if don’t care about slide year)
Trade Olofsson if he is going to be 13F.
And Biro gets claimed.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUF10</b></div><div>Yeah I don’t like Power and Jokiharju together again, but they are going to be a pair.</div></div> Great comments especially from non Sabre fans.
Granato said he was planning to have the D-men play their natural side.
Reading between the lines he does not plan to have Dahlin and Samuelsson paired this year.
Who among the RHD would be a logical choice? Dahlin and Clifton!
Johnson was added to be an on ice coach, who is the youngest LHD? Power and Johnson!
Leaving Samuelsson with Jokihaŕju.
An offensive D-man paired with a defensive D-man on every pairing.
With a stronger third pairing, maybe Dahlin will only NEED to play 22 minutes a game then Clifton would be resting the 4 minutes per game Rasmus is running the PP.

<a href="/users/MEETYOURMAKAR" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@MEETYOURMAKAR</a> did you get to the October Fest?
We are going to a wedding today in Denver and Fest was a high point of our visit just behind climbing Pike's Peak.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 19 heures
Sujet: Zegras and Drysdale to Sabres
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Czu8iks</b></div><div>I did not see any information for Power`s next contract - neither amount and years. He earned bridge deal, let's say 3x6mil.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Jeeze I am way too tired and mixing up my prospects tonight. I'm thinking of the Sanderson extension, which I consider to be a massive gamble. My mistake there
Regardless my point on Power vs Drysdale still stands. The only difference so far between the two is one of them missed most of last year due to an injury. Besides that their rookie seasons are very similar despite, one being on a much better team.</div></div> nice conversation..
Excellent fact based discussion.
When Power signs the Byrum deal may be used as a comparison, while Dahlin, Thompson and Cozens may also be team bench marks.
Power is certainly good but a cut below Dahlin, we may see a $4,500,000 three year bridge.
Lower than Rasmus but higher than Bowen.
As a Sabre fan I can only hope our Dmen also view the Sanderson contract as a mistake.

Moving on to Dahlin and using Makar as a comparable plus considering cost of living and team bench marks, Rasmus may sign for $9,000,000 for 5 years.
Maybe that is wishful thinking, but would still keep Dahlin in the Makar compensation range, while Rasmus would remain a Sabre until 2029.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 21 h 24
Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 8 h 56
Sujet: Saw This on TikTok - Who Says No
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Not that Buffalo would do this trade, but would rather have Luneau than Drysdale. He looks to be the better all around Dman IMO. And Buffalo has enough Quality in there Cauffer that Dahlin or Powers names shouldn't even be brought up.</div></div> I certainly was shocked when Buffalo took Topias Leinonen with that second round pick.
Luukkonen was under contract while Levi and Portillo on their reserve list, while <strong>Luneau</strong> certainly appeared to be the obvious choice for Buffalo to add a RHD.
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #34 by FCHockey
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #33 by TSN/Craig Button
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #29 by McKeen's Hockey
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #32 by TSN/McKenzie
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #24 by NHL Central Scouting
Average of 30th OA.
That would have given the Sabres the equivalent of 4 first round picks that year.

On the other hand Topias Leinonen:
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #151 by FCHockey
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #88 by TSN/Craig Button
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #98 by McKeen's Hockey
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #71 by TSN/McKenzie
2022 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked <strong>#1 by NHL Central Scouting</strong>
I will presume Buffalo scouts thought he was the best GK available in the draft.
It does appear that Buffalo could have taken him with their third round pick 74th OA.

On the other hand, I thought Rossi and Kemell were the better picks over Quinn and Ostlund, so what do I know.
Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 10 h 6
Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 19 h 35
Sujet: Sabres push for playoffs
<a href="/users/Czu8iks" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Czu8iks</a>
<a href="/users/AntiAnalytics" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@AntiAnalytics</a>
<a href="/users/Lsendel3" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Lsendel3</a>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Not eating 8 million on Gibsons contract, not trading him and Z for a bunch of middle of the lineup players.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Not sure why all these AGM's thing Zegras would be traded for scraps. If he was to go to the Sabers, not out of the question if they asked for Cozens in return.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>100% agree on Cozens. But i'm looking at this from Anaheim's perspective. I'm saying you're offering scraps because they're players of minimal value, for a top line center. Reasonable first line assets for Zegras would include Quinn, Savoie or Rosen.
Imagine the Ducks offer "first round assets" for Cozens and they offer Lundestrom, Max Jones and Jacob Perreault...<strong>NONE of those three have value approaching any of Jokiharju (plays over 20 mintes per game and at 24 yo has already played at least 38 games in five different seasons), Krebs (is playing on the 4th line to improve his 200 foot game but still manages to produce 1.5pts/60 just beind Vetrano's 1.8pts/60), Luukkonen (is a young 24 yo GK who had a 17-11-4 record last season). These are hardly scraps! That is hardly a fair comparison!</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Why would a rebuilding team want to make a trade that sets their rebuild backwards? This trade is doing nothing to help the Ducks, which is why legitimate prospects would need to be included in any trade for Zegras.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>No team in their right mind is giving up a first for Krebs, Joki or UPL. Nice try, but they ain't first round value.
Secondly, Krebs is not a top prospect, nor does he match Tuch as a "current NHLer with upside". Stop overvaluing your players.</div></div> Thank you all for rejecting this trade.
While you all may consider it an insult knowledgable Sabres fans would never make this deal.
Krebs, Ostlund, first and second for Zegras while Luukkonen and Jokiharju for Gibson.
Last time I checked the Ducks top four defensemen were Fawler, Shattenkirk, Klingberg and Kulikov 30, 33, 30 and 31 years old respectively.
Gibson ($6,400,000 until 2026-27 ) 0.902 SV% over the last four seasons is ranked 52 in the NHL is only moderately better than Luukkonen's ($837,500) 0.989, please do not try to over value him.
The players offered here are not scraps.
Buffalo would be insane to make this trade as Peterka may out produce Zegras this season.
Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 7 h 31
Sujet: Zegras
<a href="/users/worldwidesensei" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@worldwidesensei</a>
<a href="/users/AntiAnalytics" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@AntiAnalytics</a>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>And Ducks will match it easily… they have 16m in cap space</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Eichel first 2 seasons :
56 pts
57 pts

Zegras dirat 2 season :
61 pts
65 pts</div></div>

You are confused my friend.
Zegras was drafted in 2019 so his first two post draft seasons were:
.......................................................................gm...g......a.....pt
2019-20 Boston University.......H-East......33...11....25...36
2020-21 Anaheim Ducks..............NHL......24.....3.....10...13
2020-21 San Diego Gulls...............AHL......17...10.....11...21
Jack Eichel's first two post draft seasons were:
2015-16 Buffalo Sabres......NHL................81...24.....32....56
2015-16 Buffalo Sabres......NHL................61...24.....33....57
If you wish to make a fair comparison of D+2:
Zegras 0.54 pts/gm
Eichel 0.93 pts/gm
Forum: Armchair-GM24 sept. à 13 h 1
Sujet: Zegras for a hot minute
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>He was being kind. I'd say Mitts is the better player.

In 2023-2024: (M-Z)

Pts/60: 2.26 2.02
FO%: 45.9 41.4
TK/60: 2.61 1.33
GV/60: 1.74 2.76

PP Pts/60: 5.53 4.46
PK: Mitts &gt;&gt; Zegras

<strong>So what is Zegras better at?</strong></div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>:laugh Saying that Zegras is only 2% better than Casey Mittelstadt is a royal joke. <strong>You are correct, this is a joke as Zegras is certainly not at all better than Mittelstadt</strong> It took Mittelstadt 5 seasons to hit the 59 point mark where Zegras has 61 and 65 points in years 2 and 3. Zegras is a country mile better than Mittelstadt will ever be.<strong>just how far is a country mile? Certainly not far at all! or does it mean walking backwards?</strong></div></div> <a href="/users/MoSeider53" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@MoSeider53</a> it is rather revealing how you avoided <a href="/users/worldwidesensei" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@worldwidesensei</a> Question.
Casey has been good for the last three seasons, he had a coach who was the 21st century version of Ted Nolan, for two of those seasons.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. à 23 h 44
Sujet: Since Its The Big Thing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Looks good, so much coming through the pipeline, they are gonna have choices. Unfortunate that we probably won't get to see some of this talent ever put on the Blue and Gold. Just so much coming and such a young core already.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boos</b></div><div>Absolutely. Gonna be interesting. I'd hazard to guess that the logjam up front gets untenable in 2025/6</div></div> Sign Dahlin to 5 years at about $9,000,000, Power to a 3 year bridge at $5,000,000 (just below Dahlin's bridge).
As you both have omitted Olofsson and Mittelstadt allowing the Sabres to sign Quinn, Peterka, Kulich, Benson, Savoie to contracts under $6,000,000 (well below Cozen's and Thompson's) providing they perform well and the cap increases as is projected ($30,000,000 for the five of them).
I would imagine if they want to play here (as Crosby did in Pittsburgh and Stamkos did in Tampa) and take Buffalo friendly contracts I could be possible to keep everyone.
Skinnner's contract expiring in 4 years, one year after Tuch's may be the glitch in staying under the cap.
It would be nice if the next CBA allowed teams to include current contracts to determine future AVV.
For example when Thompson and Cozens were extended, calculate the AVV by adding the new contract total value to the current year then dividing by the total years of both contracts lowering the future AVV.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. à 23 h 24
Sujet: A trade I hope the Sabres dont make as a Leafs fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>...<strong>Leafs fan...just trolling anyways</strong></div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div><strong>Cart Hart hasn't been good for a while. .900 sv% over the past 3 seasons</strong>, with a -11.6 GSAA. In other words, below average. What is that worth? A 2nd round pick? ...</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Nope, this would be perfect...</div></div> My last comment to you.
You spend more time discussing Buffalo's past than their present and future.
The past 7 years the Sabres have drafted exceptionally well selecting up 16 NHL players during that period Benson, Wahlberg, Strbak and McCarthy from the last draft alone.
As you inadvertantly correctly pointed out they have traded exceptionally well obtaining Thompson, Tuch, Skinner, Jokiharju, Stillman, Greenway and Krebs.
The current team has players the Sabres drafted Dahlin, Cozens, Mittelstadt, Olofsson, Quinn, Power, Peterka, Girgensons, Samuelsson, Bryson, Luukkonen.
Players who were traded for before they became decent Thompson, Krebs, Jokiharju, Levi
Players who want to be here Tuch, Skinner, Okposo, Cliffton and players who have a connection to a coach or other player Stillman, Johnson.
Then there are fringe players as Comrie and Jost.

Neither Hart nor Konecny fall into any of those catagories.

Now you have had several Sabre fans all debunk your idea of trading for players who will add nearly $10,000,000 by replacing two players who are on the ELC, that is truly the definition of bad business, but you continue to carry on.

Let me add Tom Barrasso to young and successful GK.
He was only 18 when he led the Sabres to the playoffs.
That early exposure to the NHL absolutely ruined his career as he only won two cups with the Penguins and he played in the NHL until he was 38 yo.

<strong>So if Hart is such a hot commodity, why do you not propose a trade of him to the Leafs as they should be significantly closer to a third round than Buffalo?</strong>
Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. à 11 h 39
Sujet: A trade I hope the Sabres dont make as a Leafs fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Sabres aren’t doing this, don’t worry (lol)...</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Skyraider112</b></div><div>Not a smart trade for Buffalo....</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Hart has more than shown his potential as a guy who just turned 25 in August ...Quinn may turn out to be the better player, he may not. Regardless, Konecny is better now and Hart is better than any goaltender you have at this stage of their development.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Getting a more experienced goalie even if Levi is good enough to be a starter this season would be a good idea, depending on the cost of acquisition...As for TK, I think that move is kind of unnecessary with where Buffalo is at in terms of moving toward contention...</div></div> Let me interject Carter Hart was 20 years 2 months old at the start of his first season with the Flyers, while Devon Levi will be 20 months older when he starts his first full season with the Sabres, but he is <strong>TOO YOUNG!</strong>
If one is considering Hart as a back up, how many NHL teams pay nearly $4,000,000 for that role?
Statistically, Hart has not been significantly better than Luukkonen over the past 3 years, 0.900 SV% v 0.898 SV% 44-58-4 v 20-19-0
Carter may prove to be better than Luukkonen, but he is four times the cap and most recently only marginally better.

Currently Konecny may be a significant upgrade over Quinn but I would rather roll the dice on Quinn, keep my first round draft pick and save the $4,500,000 difference in salary.

Buffalo is not on a path of mediocrity (Last time I checked Buffalo had 11 more wins than the Flyers) but rather finally recovering from the three years of Tim Murray mismanagement and unloaded the malcontents.

Buffalo will not be making the above trade no how much <a href="/users/Affectionate_Side_64" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Affectionate_Side_64</a> you think it is a good trade for Buffalo.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 sept. à 9 h 41
Sujet: RFAs after 20232024 Season Dahlin Power et al
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Levis</b></div><div>Wagon! Only missing 1 or 2 Solid RD but buffalo clearly have the assets to acquired them</div></div> Great post my friend, <a href="/users/Lilster" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Lilster</a>

Hockey has evolved significantly over the past 30 years, when nearly every team had large defensemen, with two scoring lines, a checking line and a goon line.
Today, nearly every team has several very mobile offense first defensemen, 3 scoring lines and a checking line.

When one adds Benson and Rosen in place of Greenway and Rousak the Sabres would have 4 scoring lines, unheard of in the NHL.
Other teams will not be able to keep up with them, and the Sabres will literally wear them down.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 sept. à 18 h 49
Sujet: Sabres No Zegras lol
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Come on, you know I could care less what people would think. If Mitts falters this year and doesn't grow and takes a step back. Be lucky to get a Borgen for him.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>PLEASE
You practically beg for approval on the buzz
Lol

You’re scared, that’s fine
I’ll do it for you

Sorry guy, but once again, this is just a brutal idea
And it laced with all kinds of goalpost moving statements, like:
“If Mitts falters this year &amp;…. takes a step back”

U could say the exact same thing about Borgen,
except Mitts has actually taken the step forward to begin with &amp; Borgen is still just a bottom half defenseman

Dude, just stop. Come out to the bar &amp; have some sort of a life in the real world. I’ll buy u a beer &amp; u can try &amp; convince ppl in person - at least you’ll get some face to face interaction with ppl</div></div>

It would be a pleasure to share a drink with the two of you.
I live in Swormville ny and have a half season ticket plan.
We could meet at a game or before or after or at a sports bar.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 sept. à 18 h 43
Sujet: Sabres No Zegras lol
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Newhook is 2 years younger and has played 120 games less Than Mitts. Newhook has already scored 30pts or more in a season twice in 2 1/2 seasons played. Mitts has done it once and it was this year. Newhook is a positive player, Mitts is not.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Come on, you know I could care less what people would think. If Mitts falters this year and doesn't grow and takes a step back. Be lucky to get a Borgen for him.</div></div> Casey had 22 pts in 41 games (0.54 pt/gm) when he was 22 yo the same age Alex had 30 pts in 82 games (0.37 pt/gm).

But you are correct if Casey played with third line wingers again this year, his stock would fall dramatically.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 sept. à 18 h 8
Sujet: Sabres No Zegras lol
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Mitts has 1 year left on his deal, he is not getting any younger and needs to take another big step to get a extension here IMO with all the young players coming. Maybe I am selling a bit low and another piece needs to be added. But Borgen is solid, signed for a couple years and young enough to keep adding responsibility to. And Gives me a chance to see where Strbak or McCarthy are at in a couple years.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Fine, but it’s STILL just brutally horrible asset management

If u wanna trade Mitts &amp; trade for Borgen, then fine
Just do it in separate trades so u maximize the value of Mitts,
and don’t overpay for Borgen

Idk how u aren’t getting this??
It’s a very simple concept that i shouldn’t have to spell out</div></div>

Borgan would be a nice addition to the Sabre roster.
Casey and Olofsson may not be in the Sabre uniform for very long as the prospect pool has many potential replacements.
Both have much more value than many Sabre fans appear to give on this site.

Even before this past season, Casey was demonstrating decent offensive production with 41 pts over his previous 81 games.
Significantly better than Alex's 30 pts in 82 games last season.
If Alex Newhook could fetch 31st and 37th OA, Casey after last season should be able to do the same.
Borgan has the value of about the 37th OA.
Casey for Will would not be good asset management.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 sept. à 10 h 40
Sujet: No chance but what id guess
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boos</b></div><div>I'd do this trade. Not sure if Anaheim would take on Olofsson but this is a solid trade for the Sabres.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Czu8iks</b></div><div>That's a maybe. Good contract, for potential 1 ppg top 6 forward moving forward.
Sabres can retain like a 1 mil, then Ducks retain half of it, a then you have potential 30 goal scorer available minimal cap hit. That would be worth something, from playoff team looking for scoring upgrade.</div></div>
Please forgive me as I copy my most recent Olofsson comparison:

"Olofsson is bashed by nearly everyone on this site, including Sabre fans.
He is included in trades not because he is a dump or bad but because Buffalo has Kulich, Savoie, Benson, Ostlund etc who will earn 1/5 of his currently salary next year.

I have absolutely no idea what Olofsson will bring if the Sabres decide to trade him.
Some team looking for goals at the TDL will give the Sabres at least a second if not more, providing he is producing as well as he did last year.

You do know over the last four seasons Boeser has played 583:45 more minutes than Olofsson but has one less goal (80 v Olofsson's 81).
Two seasons since they both signed new contracts each Boeser goal cost $309,302 while each Olofsson goal cost $197,917.
Last season Brock played over 60% of the time with one of Miller, Horvat or Petterson as his line mate.
Conversly, last season Victor played only 10% of the time with our top two centers Cozens or Thompson.
Most NHL fans would think Brock is worth a first or more.

Last season Olofsson had more goals than DeBrincat yet Victor played 483 fewer minutes.
Neither of Victor nor Alex are noted for their defense, but Alex certainly returned a bundle.

Finally, only 22 NHL forwards scored at a faster rate than victor's 1.6 goals/60 last year.
This is not to say Victor is better or even as good as Alex, just making the point that he is a very good sniper, and it is unlikely Buffalo would just give him away.

There, I got that out of system. laugh laugh laugh laugh"
<strong> EDIT </strong>
<a href="/users/Kyle_Okposo_Lover" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Kyle_Okposo_Lover</a>
That is a very realistic return.
Good post, thank you for actually presenting a reasonable trade.
As you can infer from my comment above, the Ducks should accept this deal.
Olofsson would be the Ducks top goal producer, Savoie one of their top 3 forward prospects and first an excellent return.
As a Sabre fan, I would stay away from Zegras if he is trying to hold out.
If he is given the contract you suggest, what will Dylan and Tage think when he is not as good as either of them?
Casey produced nearly as well as he did last year at a third of that contract, he could also be affected if he was pushed down the line up.
When making a trade one must always consider the locker room.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 sept. à 10 h 7
Sujet: Hola Zegras
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>Overpayment for sure</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Twitter</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JLance</b></div><div>the other site used rosen instead of quinn
don't think the value is there. think <strong>quinn-savoie-1st</strong> gives the org way more long term value</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boos</b></div><div>Meh. Threw it out there. I think it'll take something close to that as Zegras is that good. And he's young. And look at those top three centers locked up at just over a $21M cap hit.
Love Savoie. Love Quinn too. That said, it could be that at least one (maybe both) could be in for a troubled career injury-wise.
Just a thought. Having a little fun. Waiting for slings and arrows (...<strong>of outrageous fortune</strong> Hamlet. In act 3, scene 1) to come my way.
:)</div></div>
Zegras is not going to take Tage's or Dylan's spot in the line up.
Giving up a young NHL forward, a good prospect and a first for a third line center is not very good asset management.
Keep in mind, Trevor does not appear to add significant production over Casey:
2022-'23- gm--go--ast--pts---pim--+/-
Trevor-----81---23--42---65----88....-24
Casey------82---15--44---59----22......-8
and Casey filled in for Thompson very well at the end of the season, negating the need for an insurance policy if either Tage or Dylan are injured.
If one removes the PP points Casey outscored Trevor 52 to 48.
Finally, if one could erase three March games (Boston and Dallas (24-5 cumulative), Casey had a respectable +2 rating, significantly better than Trevor's -28.

Additionally, Trevor's primary line mates were Henrique, Terry, Vatrano and Strome; 22, 24, 22 and 15 goals respectively with 17:54 min/gm and 0:01 SH TOI.
Casey's primary line mates were Jost, Asplund, Hinnostroza, Krebs (this quartet accounted for a total of 20 goals) and Olofsson. The final 18 games of the season he was paired with Skinner and Tuch with 16:07 min/gm and 0:32 SH TOI.

I cannot see any reason to make this trade after watching Rosen, Kulich, Benson and Savoie perform during the prospect challenge.
Buffalo should keep their assets and promote Casey to the top six if either of Tage or Dylan are injured.
BTW, I will suspect Casey will sign for significantly less than Trevor.

Well that is my penny and half tome of the week.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 sept. à 9 h 33
Sujet: OlofssonOlofssonOlausson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mikael_Smith</b></div><div>Probably gonna cost more than a 4th for half retained, most likely a second +</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>Sabres pass. Not nearly worth it.</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>This is a horrendous trade for the Sabres,
with ZERO CHANCE of happening
We have absolutely no reason to just dump Olofsson like this
It’s just not gonna happen - no way</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Czu8iks</b></div><div>Sabres are not paying him half the salary for 4th. He is useful player and will be need while Quinn is out.</div></div> <a href="/users/Andy_Dick" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Andy_Dick</a> please forgive me as I copy my most recent Olofsson comparison:

<strong>"</strong>Olofsson is bashed by nearly everyone on this site, including Sabre fans.
He is included in trades not because he is a dump or bad but because Buffalo has Kulich, Savoie, Benson, Ostlund etc who will earn 1/5 of his currently salary next year.

I have absolutely no idea what Olofsson will bring if the Sabres decide to trade him.
Some team looking for goals at the TDL will give the Sabres at least a second if not more, providing he is producing as well as he did last year.

You do know over the last four seasons Boeser has played 583:45 more minutes than Olofsson but has one less goal (80 v Olofsson's 81).
Two seasons since they both signed new contracts each Boeser goal cost $309,302 while each Olofsson goal cost $197,917.
Last season Brock played over 60% of the time with one of Miller, Horvat or Petterson as his line mate.
Conversly, last season Victor played only 10% of the time with our top two centers Cozens or Thompson.
Most NHL fans would think Brock is worth a first or more.

Last season Olofsson had more goals than DeBrincat yet Victor played 483 fewer minutes.
Neither of Victor nor Alex are noted for their defense, but Alex certainly returned a bundle.

Finally, only 22 NHL forwards scored at a faster rate than victor's 1.6 goals/60 last year.
This is not to say Victor is better or even as good as Alex, just making the point that he is a very good sniper, and it is unlikely Buffalo would just give him away.

There, I got that out of system. laugh laugh laugh laugh<strong>"</strong>

<strong>It is highly unlikely he will only return a late fourth round pick, especially if there is 50% retention.</strong>
Forum: Fauteuil - DG17 sept. à 11 h 20
Sujet: Big time
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Buffalo accepts</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Czu8iks</b></div><div>Do they? I always thought if any prospect is moved, that will be part of package for real impact player, not straight prospect swap...</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>I think from an organizational standpoint, it's worth it for the Sabres...</div></div> It is truly unusual for a team to walk away from a draft with all three of their top targets, and now Buffalo has done that in two consecative years.

Watching the prospects in action Benson, Savoie, Rosen, Kulich, Novikov and Metsa all have an excellent chance of jumping to the NHL soon.
Where does that leave Nadeau, Cederqvist, Kisakov, Kozak, Ostlund, Wahlberg and Neuchev? In Rochester? Traded as Bloom was?
It is unfortunate that Olofsson does not have a future with the Sabres primarily because any of the above mentioned forwards will be paid 1/5 of his current salary and may provide as much offense.
Mittelstadt may be in the same catagory when his contract needs to be renewed as he and Ofofsson should return decent value if or when they are traded.
Greenway and Skinner may not be part of the future either which would open up spots in the line up.
Jost, Girgensons and Okposo probably will not be given extensions, so that opens up 7 forward spots for Benson, Savoie, Rosen, Kulich, Ostlund and two more.
Many players will still be on ELC's when Skinner's contract expires.
Teams are forced to put together a grind line because they do not have the cap space to play four scoring lines.
It will be easy for the Sabres to do that in a couple of years.

Unfortunatly the Sabres have too many LHD with Novikov and Johnson waiting in the wings and Power, Dahlin and Samuelsson already established.
Trading for a 22yo RHD makes sense, as one would certainly fills a need and is in the correct age catagory.
Maybe a trade would involve roster players and not prospects.

Well that is my penny and half tome for the week.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 sept. à 13 h 9
Sujet: Kulich just might be ready
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>Buffalo prospects trucked the baby Habs last night. Dobes saved it from being ridiculous.
That wasnt even fair LMAO
Unreal future coming up for Buffalo. Zach Benson all along was my pick at number 5 OA but it was obvious they wanted Reinbacher. Detroit letting Benson/Savoie slip through in consecutive years, will always be funny tho
Kulich with a 25 goal season in the A as a D+1 meanwhile he was playing as a 17 year old against 20 year olds as a draft prospect. Kid is legit.</div></div> Thanks for offering your insight.
His size and being a slow skater dropped him 13th.
On the other hand <strong>Benson</strong> appears to be a solid 200 foot forward.
Excellent back and fore checker.
He will be in the NHL next year for sure.

<strong>Kulich</strong> has an increadible quick release, I read that he added 16 pounds since last season.
Yes he did very well playing against men.
It could be an interesting future considering the Sabre scouting staff valued <strong>Östlund</strong> higher than him.
Imagine the possibility of getting 3 top six forwards from the same draft.

Not too many pundits waste ink on LHD Nikita <strong>Novikov</strong> but during the 3 on 3 competition he had three goals and was the only skater back on three separate odd man rushes, preventing a goal on all of them.
Last night he had three assists and I do not think he was on the ice for any of the goals against.

Drafting is the way to build a team, Tim Murray set the rebuild back by at least 8 years.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 sept. à 12 h 43
Sujet: 2 defense change 1 different then usual
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsmustwin</b></div><div>The other Leaf fans will cry but I was going to do the trade with Niemela lol, I figured he would make them at least think.</div></div> While it is a small sample Stillman performed well for Buffalo.
If you were to do Niemela Buffalo would definitely need to add.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsmustwin</b></div><div><strong>There is no such thing as a defense that is better on their off side.</strong> Brodie has always played the wrong side because the team he is on had no choice! ...</div></div>OMW, please explain this to all of Sabre fans.
Many of them think pairing Samuelsson with Dahlin then Johnson with Jokiharju, two lefts and two rights together is a good idea.
Forum: Armchair-GM16 sept. à 9 h 26
Sujet: 2 defense change 1 different then usual
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>I think Stillman was valued as our 6/7 guy last year, <strong>A great trade last year.</strong>
and my guess is that we hang onto him for depth this season</div></div> <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sabres89</b></div><div>Our gm played with stillmans dad on the hurricanes cup team, <strong>Nearly all of the Sabres were either drafted, brought in as a young player, or have a connection to a player, coach or the city, Reilly is just one more. I did not know of his connection to Kevyn, thanks</strong> I suspect he's gonna get a decent look here, plus he brings some grit to a team that doesn't have much. As far as hirvonen, our top 6 or 7 prospects are all undersized forwards, and Benson, savoie, ostlund, Rosen, and kulich were all first round picks. If there's a role on this team that we should have all sewn up for the foreseeable future, it's undersized skilled forward.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsmustwin</b></div><div>Guess I didn't look that far into it , could be a defense then or goalie prospect whichever BUF needs more.</div></div> I am compelled to echo my esteemed Sabre colleagues here.
Stillman played very well for the Sabres last year.
He was paired with every other D-man left or right and ended +1, with a 56% CF and 8.0 hts/60 in his 18 games with Buffalo.
He fits the role as a 6th/7th defenseman perfectly.
It would take a bit of an over pay, and a decent RHD prospect to pry him out of Buffalo now.
Niemelä or Villeneuve (3rd and 4th round picks from the 2020 draft) may fit the bill, but the Leafs probably would not want to trade either one of them.