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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 5 heures
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ALitteral</b></div><div>I don't see anyone giving you a 2C for an under-performing prospect. Still, it is way to early to sell on him unless a team overpays. It is comparable to Patrick for us. We lucked into the pick and have to hope he can return to the ice and play at a decent level.

I saw <a href="" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">this article</a> about Mittelstadt yesterday. Main quote below:
"Casey Mittelstadt isn’t a product of a bad situation in Buffalo. The Sabres simply got fleeced. As the NHLe model shows, Mittelstadt had no business being featured in the top-10 of the 2017 Draft rankings. "</div></div>

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My comment in that post:

"First of all, any article that quotes Chad DeDominicis has to be viewed suspiciously. No knowledgeable Sabre follower takes him seriously.
Second, I would never say Mittelstadt was a lock for #2 center, in fact, I would have sent him to Rochester last year after watching him perform in the Sabre's Prospect Challenge.
Third, he is hardly a bust, with 39 pts in 114 NHL games as a 20 year old.
Fourth, the article was correct, it was a terrible draft which should have automatically meant he should not have been brought into the NHL as soon as he was.
Fifth, while he did get PP time, he made the most of it getting more goals than Sam and was ranked 5th among all Sabre forwards with 10 PP pts. Let me add, he only averaged 13:27min/game in 2018-'19 which was less than Larsson or Girgensons. So to say he got mid six minutes would be a gross exaggeration.
Sixth, he needs to get bigger just as Sam Reinhart did. Once he does that and his ceiling is only 40pt, then I would be disappointed."
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 5 heures
"From all the teams that miss the tournament, Buffalo is the one who needs to make the most changes in order to be competitve next season."

Hutton goes blind and has 0-8-4 stretch,
The PK and PP are the worse in the league,
Skinner scores 14 goals,
Sheary, Vesey and Rodrigues have career bad years.
If ANY one of those did not happen, the team is in the preliminaries,
If NONE of them happen they are chasing the Leafs for the third overall spot.
One also has to ask, what coach thinks it is a good idea to put Sobotka on the 2nd line? Did anyone consider how much that contributed to Skinner's awful year.
Let me add, only 8 teams gave up fewer 5 on 5 goals than the Sabres last year. With better GK it would have been even fewer teams.
So I cannot disagree with your opening line more than I do.

As to the trades:
Stepan is paid more then Okposo why do I want two of them on my team and for a 2nd? <a href="/users/NeedTheCleanser" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@NeedTheCleanser</a> and <a href="/users/littlejerryseinfeld" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@littlejerryseinfeld</a> are correct.
I would rather keep Mittelstadt over Puljujarvi. Casey took the demotion while Jesse jumped to Europe. Give me the player with class.
Montour is worth a lot more than the 43rd OA. He had the best +/- among all Sabre skaters, only Scandella had a better PDO, only Ristolainen and Dahlin had a higher pts/min, Miller, Ristolainen and Dahlin all had more PP time than he, he had the highest 5 on 5 SV% of all Sabre defensemen, do I need to go on?
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>Sabres pass on this deal. We are not in need of depth forwards we are looking for top 6 help. Maatta contract is too high for the player he is and Caggiula is no upgrade over Mitts. We would rather hang on to him and see if he bounces back towards his ceiling as a player because his floor is the player that Caggiula is.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>Buffalo decline</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gordon_Bombay</b></div><div>Bad move for Buffalo</div></div>

I would hate to give up Mittelstadt as I have posted many times, he is not a bust.
If that was the only trade Buffalo made it would not make any sense.
Määttä was one of the Hawks PK defensemen.
Drake would obviously be a bottom 6 forward and would take the place of Girgensons.
It this was one of 2 other trades, I think it would be OK.
I use this as my test team: <a href=""></a>
The defense is balanced and solid, LW is strong to the 3rd line, the center position is deep as Lazar or Kahun could cover for injuries. RW is strong to the 3rd line, only one of Cozens or Thompson needs to be NHL ready and the team will be in the hunt until the end of March.
Of course all three trades would need to be consummated or it does not work.
Please, I am looking for feedback.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 4:44 pm
Sujet: Boos IV
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jdfitz77</b></div><div>I don’t think we’d have to give up Risto to get him
I think they’d be happy just to get the contract off the books
So maybe just a pick/prospect?</div></div>
What pick or prospect did you have in mind.
I like Ristolainen, IMO we have not seen the best of him.
In 15 years will he be our Zdeno Chara?
I never heard him say, I lost my love of the game and I am excited about playing in Europe. If he ever said that, I would trade him for a bucket of pucks.
The entire year could be boiled down to the team's performance after the TDL. We get our physical forward and a talented young forward and the team loses 6 in a row. Goes from being in the hunt for the last playoff spot to being out of the preliminaries.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>It all depends on how you value Risto and how you feel about Henrique.

My opinion:

Risto - I think he has outlived himself in Buffalo, it's time to move on, he already wants to leave Buffalo. We must build a defense around Dahlin and Jokiharju. Yes, he is physical, he can consistently gain his 35-40 points, but he is also not the best guy in defense, and another question is who we want to protect in the expansion draft besides Dahlin and Jokiharju.

Henrique - I think that this is not the best option for the role of 2C, but not the worst. The only thing that bothers me is his contract, on the other hand he is a fairly stable player and you know what to expect from him, he is not traumatic, he will always gain his 40-50 points, he can be a good mentor for such a young center as Cozens, and then to fall on the role of 3C. How it will grow old is unknown, but I would not mind this deal, we have been choosing options for all these centers for too long and have been sitting without them for two years, so this would not be the worst option for me. This is the usual hockey trade.</div></div>

I completely respect your point of view and appreciate your explanation.
NP I do not want to get into a huge dog fight here.
TBH, I am happy when I hear a player say, I hate losing it is time to win, that does not mean "Trade Me".
Yes, I value Ristolainen higher than most. He is only 25, he hits, he is big, he is improving, he wants to win, he plays hard, he scores pts, he has top minutes for four different head coaches and I never remember him being benched for not playing well.
I think Henrique on this team would be great. But will he be getting $5,825,000 the last 2 or 3 years of his contract playing 3rd line center as Cozens take over the 2nd line chores?

Burns and Chara were 29 when he got their 3rd 40 pts season.
BTW, yes I watched Chara early in his career and he was worse than Ristolainen, so I think Rasmus has that much potential.
That may also be a hint on where I think Dahlin will be in two years.
So my bottom line, I would not trade Ristolainen for less than a good 2nd line forward and a good draft pick, Henrique and 38th over all.

As to the expansion draft protect Dahlin, Jokiharju and Ristolainen then let Seattle pick their poison.
Losing a good player in the draft is a good sign not bad.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 2:20 pm
Sujet: Boos IV
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 2:12 pm
Forum: Armchair-GMSun at 1:34 pm
Sujet: Boos IV
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 6:40 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>No. I doubt cozens will ever come close to an 80 point campaign. Seems like a 50 point player in the making.
This would be the best top 6 we have had since the lockout. And they are all realitvely young. So not really seeing the crippling effect.
I'll take the sure thing instead of another girgensons (aka cozens)</div></div>
You are correct the Cozens will not come close to an 80 pt campaign because he will be playing second line wingers, second line minutes and second PP.
But how many years did Monahan reach 80?
You are also correct that that would be our best top 6 in ages.
I never remember Girgensons being hyped.
Cozens "IS" the sure thing, he will be a consistent 50pt/yr second line center
OH YES, let me mention when O'Reilly, Lehner and Kane were on the team in the Sabres missed the playoffs by only 35 2017-'18, by 18 in 2016-'17 and 13 in 2015-'16. But somehow, the "NEXT" would be different, as you can see, the spread got worse every year O'Reilly was on the team!

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Wonder how we got here 9 years on. Was it because we let our prospects develop or was it because GMTM came in and traded them all for win now players who were all gone within 4 years</div></div>
OMG, how many times have I said that in the past and been lambasted for that.
I agree let's not do it again.
It took 5 major fails for the team to miss the preliminaries (PP and PK, Hutton, Skinner, combination of Rodrigues, Sheary and Vesey all having career worse years) much less be on the heals of the Leafs.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>A terrible deal for Buffalo, Monahan is overvalued much more than Cirelli, without Gaudreau, he will not be able to lead the line. We have the second line is three players who can only score and do not know how to defend, except that only Boeser.</div></div>
Last year Gaudreau was on his line over 85% of the time.
I agree with you, if Sam and Dominik were his line mates he would be hard pressed to break 50 pts.
Dylan is the real deal, he had more pts and goals in 51 games this year than in 68 last year.
He may be ready next year, if not I can wait another year for Dylan.

Finally, I know I am a minority, but Tage, Casey, Dominik and Dylan could all make contributions next year. Time will tell if I am correct and I will gladly go on this site and admit it this time next year if I am wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 5:18 pm
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 4:54 pm
Sujet: fix team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>do the 1 for 1 with Miller then</div></div>

While that exchange is closer, IMO the Flyers would need to add for Miller. (Did I mention I am really excited about Montour, his offensive is really solid and his defensive is above average)
As a result of very fortunate events, Buffalo had too many RHD.
First Murray of the Ducks let Botterill have Montour for the bargain price of a late 1st and what Murray must have thought was the second coming of Paul Coffey, Brenden Guhle.
Then in early June of last year McPhee gifts Botterill with Miller for a late 2nd.
Later in June, Bowman (not to be confused with Scotty) gives Botterill the greatest gift of all, Jokiharju for Alex (not even a shadow of Willie or Michael) Nylander.
Henri is a natural and has the instincts of a much more mature defenseman. I wish the talented Dahlin had his instincts.
So both Miller and Montour were splitting what ever playing time was available as the 3rd RHD, sometimes playing out of position as a LHD, or giving Rasmus or Henri a rest.
While this arrangement was good because it deflated Montour's stats during a contract year, it also deflated Miller's value.
IMO, the Flyers would need to add to get Miller as well. I may be inflating Colin's value but 2021 second seems to be about the correct value to add.
But, I may be wrong, maybe Ghost will become an offensive force again and his defense will pick up and maybe Miller will be a dud.
In the end, I do not think there is a deal here.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 1:28 pm
Sujet: fix team
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 8:55 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>I like some of your ideas I dont mind Galchenyuk on a 1 year prove it deal. I like adding Ghost but would rather be moving Risto or Montour for him. I don't like Reino at center. He has shown in his limited tim le there that his below average skating is a liability in that role. Contract number for Oloffson is way low. You maybe can get him on a 1 year deal for that. Also we need Cozens in the lineup somewhere. We are wasting his development sending him back to Junior. He has already proved he is better than that level. Move Cozens to 3C. Mojo and Kahun to wing. Mitts to Roch. Okposo to 4th line. TT on first line RW. And then hope Galchenyuk can navigate 2C. My sense if there is anything promising still there then he stays in Minnesota as they are desperate for high end forwards as well. So then we still have the 2C whole. Either sign someone like Haula or use Risto and draft capital to try and find one.</div></div>

I incorporated your suggestions.
I share your opinion of Thompson, he earned an opportunity to prove himself after his performance in Rochester.
I wanted to keep Sam with Jeff, your idea solves that.
Jeff and Carter get their game back, not at all unreasonable.
Tage and Dylan make the jump to the NHL, the past performance indicates this is very possible.
Erik, Dominik and Marcus give us the same season as last season, again not an unreasonable expectation.
They will be in the hunt until April.
I will say this again, the team needed a healthy Hutton last year to make the playoffs.
Adding Kahun, Thompson, Cozens and maybe Mittelstadt greatly improves the team.
I am still giving up my season tickets, I do not want to give Kim any of hard earned money if she is going to be making Hockey decisions.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 7:56 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzmets</b></div><div>I like a hybrid approach. I am ok to give up a good asset here or there. I just don't want to move our top 2 assets especially when it comes at the expense of our top 2 assets. I am ok with moving 8 o/a for a proven #2 center Monahan, Cirelli, Hertl, maybe RNH with something added by the Oilers, Horvat, Domi with something added by MTL, Dylan Strome, Henrique with something added. While 8th o/a may end up being better than all of these players I think we walk away satisfied if 8 o/a ends up being the same as one of these players. But I think we need to keep Cozens for the chance that he hits it big or at least becomes a solid nhler on a cost controlled team controlled contract for several years.</div></div>

I agree.
Only 8 teams gave up fewer 5 on 5 goals than the Sabres.
We had the worse PK and lost many games because of it.
The PP started out great, then every one started watching Jack skate with the puck.
Hutton went blind and was 0-8-4 over 12 games, make that 4-4-4 and we are easily in the preliminaries and close to a playoff team.
IMO two of or even three of Thompson, Mittelstadt, Kahun or Cozens (maybe our 8th over all) will be on the team next year.
We have two fringe NHL LHD playing in Rochester, Gilmour and Redmond. A team can have one fringe NHL defenseman playing less then 10 minutes a night. I would prefer better but it is not a horrible option.
UPL is a year or two away.
The team is closer than Botterill haters think, but with Kim Pegula running the show and a sycophant as the GM willing to have his strings pulled, I do not know where we will go next year.
I pray that he does not Tim Murray this and pick up other teams cast offs.
One trade and three UFA's (this is my test team) <a href=""></a> and IMO they would be in the hunt until April.
Schenn and Maroon are added for grit.