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There really is not a value one can put on a center as valuable as Jack.
If one wanted to make a trade it should at least try to fill the needs of Buffalo.
Buffalo has 7 defensemen, 4 or 5 LW, 2 RW, 1 center (Jack) ½ of a GK.
Kakko, Kaapo a good back up to Reinhart
Trouba, Jacob not needed and would be Buffalo’s most expensive D-Man.
Strome, Ryan a center, but I do not think he is what Buffalo would want
2020 1st round pick (CAR) Good.
2021 1st round pick (NYR) Not bad make it this year’s pick.
The 2021 pick may not be NHL ready until 2024, so make it this year.
Take out Strome and Trouba add this year’s 3rd and Georgiev.
Then Buffalo get’s help on RW, GK, the future and cap.
Probably not enough but at least this fill the needs of Buffalo.
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Buffalo was 13 pts behind the Leafs this past year with a game in hand.
Hutton totally collapsed, easily lost 3 to 4 games.
Skinner and Vesey had career bad years, easily lost 3 to 4 games.
Dahlin will be a year older, smarter wiser could add 1 or 2 wins.
Kahun, Mittelstadt, Thompson and Cozens, at least one or maybe all four have an impact next year.
Give the GK Keys to Ullmark, get Skinner a better center, bring the kids along slowly, yup, I can see the team competing next year.
If Hutton, Vesey and Skinner did not disappear this year, they would have been in the preliminary round easily.
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I am not a big fan of giving up that much for Cirelli, but if it put the team in the playoffs, sure.
I think you are a bit optimistic in the other trades, but why not who would have thought Skinner for a second, Jokiharju for Nylander, Miller for a late 2nd, and Montour for a first.
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I will be the first to say, as a talent exchange, Buffalo wins this transaction, by a wide margin
That being said, it is all the wrong pieces.
I do not watch the Jets, but are both Connor and Ehlers LH LW? How does that help when Buffalo already have Olofsson and Skinner?
Heinola is a decent LHD, but Buffalo is very deep on Defense and has several LHD prospects who may be nearly as good as Heinola.
I love the draft picks, but if Buffalo trades Jack that means they are looking to rebuild and a first from 2021 may not be ready until 2025!
So IMO the Sabres would want a top RW, a couple of really good prospect and a couple of picks.
So Laine, Vesalainen, another prospect, 2020 1st round pick (WPG) and 2020 2nd round pick (WPG).
Buffalo would have 4 picks among the top 40 in this year’s draft.
Unfortunately Buffalo would have TWO DONUT lines instead of one.
I think Buffalo would still say no, but at least it is the parts that Buffalo could use.
What I really hate about getting Laine, is that if we had not jumped started the rebuild, Buffalo would have a good shot at Dubois, Laine or even Matthews and Jack.
But maybe Murray would have drafted Nylander anyway in the 2nd or 3rd OA.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>This may be a team that could win, but I still don't see a team here that would beat the top teams in the East. Look at Tampa and Toronto for example, those teams can roll 3 scoring lines and have all stars all over the lineup. You have good players sure but Hall and Pietrangelo are getting older and you still have not a lot after your top line and top defence pair. This is exactly what has put them in this mess. Add a some FA's and hope our young guys get 80% over the summer. I think Buffalo needs to rethink how this organization is using its resources. You need to draft better, you need to develop better and then you need to get rid of anyone over the age of 25 for guys that could fit the culture and style you want to play. Then take a year or two to keep building up the talent and skill you have and hope it leads to some good depth that can be built around. Jumping the gun has only harmed you.</div></div>
I completely agree with your concept of building a team.
Start by building a competent team in Rochester.
Give the prospects time to develop.
Change the culture in the big club and bring in the prospects.
I wanted to build a team that could break the non play off streak.
At the same time, I give cozens time to develop,
Further more, I have 4 picks among the top 40 and an awesome top line.
So this approach fills all of my steps to winning.
Finally, you are correct, the Leafs can roll 3 lines, but Boston has only one.
Regardless, thanks for taking the time to explain your approach.