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Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 8 h 48

Sujet: Poolparty

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>5 years at over 8 million was reported as what Letang wants, per Yohe</div></div>

Yohe is almost never accurate

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 23 h 57

Sujet: Poolparty

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>gonna take a lot more than that to get letang back</div></div>

Rumored ask is 8?

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 23 h 32

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yote827</b></div><div>It's not about Pettersson being a bad player or not capable, it's the situation the Pens are in. It's exactly the same as the Flyers moving Ghost to the Yotes last year. If the Pens want to move his money out to sign Letang and Malkin then they need move out Petterson or Zucker or both, and knowing that why would any team send back anything of value to the Pens? They wouldn't. And if your the Pens, it's either pay a sweetener to move out the money or lose Letang and Malkin.</div></div>

Again, huh? They don’t ‘need’ to move the money, they’re fine capwise to sign those two without moving him

Forum: Armchair-GMjeu. à 14 h 48

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yote827</b></div><div>No team is paying the Pens anything to take 3 years of Pettersson at 4.02 mil. The 2nd rounder would be going from the Pens to the Yotes and there is nothing coming back from AZ. This would also apply to Zucker</div></div>

Huh? Pettersson isn’t negative value, he’s a fairly paid #4

Forum: Armchair-GM23 mai à 16 h 27

Sujet: Team Friendly Deals

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>Don’t know why some people are this high on O’Connor, put Poulin or Nylander there</div></div>

AHL stats... but also DOC has proved significantly more at the NHL level

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 47

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>I don't think so personally. I feel like that is where we are headed. I would be shocked if we won first round, so I've started thinking about offseason already. Also with so many UFA's it is a conversation happening now. Even if we don't lose first round, we have way to many players struggling and a team is only as good as the sum of its parts. Kapanen, Carter, Dumo, Pettersson, Marino, Malkin, Zucker all not playing well. That for me is enough for some change.</div></div>

I mean, Zucker hasn't really played

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 47

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Detroit needs a stop gap dman for couple of seasons and there are plenty of options that won't cost more than a 3rd. So if Pittsburgh wants more than a 3rd Detroit will target someone else.</div></div>

this reads as your personal opinion, which you are welcome to have

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 44

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>Wrong</div></div>

For your viewing pleasure: https://myslu.stlawu.edu/~msch/sports/Schuckers_NHL_Draft.pdf

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 43

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoreHitzSeider</b></div><div>With Yzerman drafting it's a huge difference.</div></div>

historically there's really not

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 42

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>No you don't.

95% of all PIT ACGMs have Pettersson going to Detroit for a 3rd or less. Have a look at the ACGM right before yours as an example.</div></div>

speaking from experience, think most people just put the third to avoid the argument, as evidenced from this thread

there's really not much of a difference value wise between the picks, so sure

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 41

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>We are too old and slow. Also have no physicality which matters for playoffs and might be why we always get so many injuries. Need to get a little bigger/tougher and younger faster players as well. Our centers would be 36, 35, and 38 in this lineup. If we lose first round we need major change, it would be insanity to do the same thing again. Coaching change needs to be considered as well imo.</div></div>

Feel like that's a bridge to cross if they actually lose first round, not before

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 40

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>The vast majority of other Pittsburgh ACGM posts.

I'm not saying those 15 picks would be a deal breaker, just pointing out that you're getting greedy, when the overwhelming consensus on this board, is that a 3rd is market value. Pittsburgh needs to shed cap and everyone knows it, so they are not in a position of leverage in negotiations. If anything, they might even need to take less as no one will be looking to do them a favor.</div></div>

If there's more than one team interested in a player, they'll get fair value, even with cap constraints that's just how markets function

>1 team would be interested in Pettersson

Late second / early third is fair value imo but I don't see those as being wildly different enough to really argue it either way

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 38

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>This team is not improved from last year at all. We are already struggling a ton with our roster as it, if we lose first round or even later I don't see the point of running it back. Signing Kapanen for 3.5 mil especially dosen't make sense and idk about keeping UFA's if we're out first round, at least not all of them</div></div>

At the same time, the roster has been good enough this year to be a contender despite injuries

Withholding judgment of the roster construction until they play five games with a full lineup

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 34

Sujet: Offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DeadWingsv2</b></div><div>Getting greedy... a 3rd for Pettersson is the consensus value.</div></div>

Who agreed to this? I only hear this from Wings fans

Also, the difference between the Caps second and Wings third is ~15 picks, is it really a difference worth arguing over? Those slots are something like 30% chance to play 100 games vs. 25% chance

Forum: Armchair-GM20 avr. à 10 h 28

Sujet: 3 way

Pens pass

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mars à 15 h 32

Sujet: 2023

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>Imagine Rust get's around $7M a year.</div></div>

On a shorter term deal, maybe

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mars à 13 h 22

Sujet: 2023

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Respectfully, you will likely see no trades for 2LD until Chychrun to LA is completely off the radar and Edler is unwilling to reup with the Kings. Because I see both those options as preferable.</div></div>

Fair enough, could also see him going to a team like Detroit for the same reasons outlined above

Forum: Armchair-GM29 mars à 13 h 19

Sujet: 2023

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>We need a powerplay/PK specialist who can play big minutes for our 2LD, that isn't Pettersson looking at his ATOI and special teams play over the past 2 seasons. I think the Pens can get this, just not from us.</div></div>

Pettersson's usage/TOI in Pittsburgh is more of a result of the org's depth at LD than his actual ability

He's fine on the PK and has also shown some offensive ability in the past, just currently being used in more of a defensive role

Think he would be an ideal cheap (to acquire) #4 for a team like LA, and he's still pretty young to fit the window

Respect your opinion but do think it would be a win/win trade

Forum: Armchair-GM10 mars à 16 h 34

Sujet: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pain</b></div><div>Replace Rodrigues with Kapanen</div></div>

Pass

Forum: Armchair-GM4 mars à 15 h 0

Sujet: Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AdamFox</b></div><div>I agree and wouldn't pay a significant price for him but if im Vancouver I would rather just hold on at that point</div></div>

If they hold onto him they risk losing him for nothing if they don't want to pay the QO

Forum: Armchair-GM4 mars à 14 h 57

Sujet: Boeser

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AdamFox</b></div><div>that would be a pretty brutal return for boeser</div></div>

On pace for 24 goals getting PP1 time with a qualifying offer of >7.5M

Forum: Armchair-GM27 févr. à 18 h 17

Sujet: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dpellz90</b></div><div>Why would it make sense to downgrade from ZAR to Jarnkrok and also give up a 2nd rounder in the process?</div></div>

Downgrade…?

Forum: Armchair-GM17 févr. à 14 h 9

Sujet: Deadline

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan89</b></div><div>Dallas probably declines because it’s two pending UFAs for a UFA. I’m sure they’d want futures. Pens decline that Canucks deal. Boeser’s QO is awful. No reason for the pens to pay for that</div></div>

Dallas still in the hunt

Forum: Armchair-GM13 janv. à 14 h 56

Sujet: Next Year

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Hard pass from NSH.</div></div>

Depends on if they can resign Forsberg imo

Forum: NHL Trades5 janv. à 12 h 40

Sujet: (CHI/PIT) - Nylander for Lafferty

Good trade for Pens, nice to add another right shot

Chicago fans will like Lafferty, plays extremely hard and has a bit of upside

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