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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures
Sujet: 24 pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JK74</b></div><div>WTF is wrong with some you PIT fans lately? You're making the good ones look bad. Your team has some terrible contracts. Nobody wants them and they sure as hell aren't paying for them. Please STOP trying to pawn your crap off on Chicago. We have enough of our own crap, we definitely don't need yours!</div></div>

legit bro, then every time i or one of the few semi rational poster try to legitimately find a trade match or solution and mention some prospect we don't know anything about the entire site melts down and says we're all dumb... i at least admit my lack of knowledge around prospects especially, and other teams depths at certain positions and what their big needs are... lol :tearsofjoy i just try to be creative in a non-insane way...
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures
Sujet: Youth Revelation V3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>NJ fans seem pretty high on Seigenthaler they won't do that.
There is nothing and I mean nothing I want in either the TOR or AZ trade.
Especially the AZ trade, they don't need a goalie and they aren't paying all that to move Acciari, just a horrible trade for the penguins.
Jake is also not signing a 1 year deal, he'll be signing 7 years somewhere probably. Good luck to anyone who wants to do that.

A lot of this is blocking paths for younger players that the penguins don't need to be doing.
They need to bring their younger players in house and give them shots at this point. Pickering, Yager, Broz, Lee, tKoivunen, Ponomarev.
They need to see if these guys can fill a hole</div></div>


i basically said seig was just to have $ coming back and fill a hole...
just trying out new ideas, lol i feel like i addresses all this in my description...
i just get sick of seeing the same old garbage posted here lol...
Forum: Armchair-GM3 avr. à 16 h 24
Sujet: hear me out
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YoungPattyKane</b></div><div>no thanks from Ottawa</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brolekb2b</b></div><div>Personally no to Smith, we've got great pieces in the top six with Duclair and Stamkos, both of whom need to be resigned this off-season. I'm not sure if adding Smith really addresses anything with the exception of already being under contract, but I think we'd rather hold on to Perbix 1.125 at that point.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>No the type of deal Ottawa will be looking for</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>No's all around. Certainly won't get value back for Nieto who the Sharks literally let go to free agency last season. Rakell is just not very good, especially for that contract. I think Tampa would look to extend Duke</div></div>

a huge collection of nos from every team.

this is <strong>EXACTLY</strong> the type of post i went on record a couple weeks ago asking PIT fans <strong>NOT</strong> to make saying it's <em>completely unrealistic</em>...
Forum: Armchair-GM26 mars à 18 h 1
Sujet: Can PIT fans agree on these things moving forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bc44</b></div><div>Dubas signed a 7 year deal for a reason. We all know that its over for the Pens and what a great two decades its been. But the organization clearly set out a plan with the core and Dubas coming in as GM. Two years trying to strike gold with Sid and the core and 5 years to build again, hence the 7 years. Its year one of that. Expect a quiet offseason with short term deals to some Vets and younger players looking for a shot. They will be keeping all draft picks moving FWD. After next season the Pens will likely be making similar moves that Montreal has been making.

Is this the best thing for the organization? Maybe, the best thing might be trading their best assets now for a massive return and advancing the rebuild several years but none of us realistically expect that.</div></div>

my sentiments, exactly.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 mars à 12 h 34
Sujet: Strangely optimistic for the future of the Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>I see the method to the madness, but I disagree with the general premise. Skirting both buying and selling again doesn't do us any good. I'd like to pick a lane, be it going all in for one last push or blowing it up. To me, this team is mediocre, which is the worst thing a sports team can be.
And I don't think a full tank is impossible. A couple players will be hard to move (Graves, maybe Raks), and the big 3 should retire here. Almost everyone else is on the table.

With the Pettersson argument, part of the reason Guentzel got a lesser return is that he was pretty much guaranteed to be a rental. Pettersson is a couple years younger and could pretty easily sign an extention with a team at ~6-7M. Defensemen of that level have gotten a 1st+ at the last 3 deadlines: Hampus Lindholm, Dmitri Orlov, and Noah Hanifin. Why not the Dragon?

It makes sense, but I don't think another year like this one does us any good. The Pens need to pick a direction before time does it for them, if it hasn't already.</div></div>

i agree with you in the sense of being a 100% seller is the best path, but with all the NMC/NTC and bigger contracts thats almost impossible rn, that's why i said to sell of everything possible, (pettersson, eller, reilly smith) and i'd look to move karlson, jarry, rakell, etc if there were any takers... but a full sell is not possible, and we can't move out big contracts without taking some $ back... so i was attempting to lessen the term of some larger deals to free up more cap space sooner for pit, like the exact moves might not be feasible, but the premise stands as valid.
dubas has 6 more years on his contract, so he has to think long term which is why i don't see pettersson getting extended and i bet all signings or acquisitions are either younger players under-26 or 1-year deals for bounce back candidates or guys we can flip each and every deadline...
i agree with your logic 100%, i just don't see Pit being able to full out tear down for several years...
Forum: Armchair-GM21 mars à 17 h 32
Sujet: Strangely optimistic for the future of the Pens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>I'm not particularly optimistic about this lineup.
Brown, Anderson, and Krug aren't exactly guys I think are better than what we have now.
Ludvig, St. Ivany, and Puljujarvi all strike me as guys you'd rather have as a 13th F or 7th D

Then with trade values:
I'm skeptical that Winnipeg is willing to part with Schmidt and Stanley for so little unless they're in a massive cap crunch this offseason.
Same thing as the Jets trade but the other way around for Marcus Pettersson. He's been a legit top pairing defenseman the past two seasons, and makes both Karlsson and Letang better. Quantity over quality is not the direction to go in for a player like him.

It's certainly different from the usual Pens ACGMs and there are some good ideas here. But will any of these deals fix the team's problems these past two years? Will they set us up for an easier rebuild? I'm not sure they'll do either.</div></div>

all the players i targeted are bounce back candidates or for guys like josh anderson and torey krug it was more just swapping bad or overpaid contracts... i took on more $ for fewer years you'll notice, just in theory i thought that made sense for what PIT is doing...so that way we have alot of cap cleared up sooner.... then some players on 1 year deals to build their value that we can flip at the TDL...

yeah this is different bc this is me recognizing that we're not winning anything and i'm just trying to figure out what is plausible... bad or large contracts we have won't be moved for a 7th, we'll have to take $ back... then i want to leave spots open for younger players to play so thats why some questionable players are in the lineup... this team isnt' really trying to win, bc i don't think it's likely at this point... this is just us not tanking bc a full tank/rebuild is not possible...

pettersson is next year's guentzel... we don't want to move him, but keeping him doesnt' help us at all... we're not winning so i'd rather have younger players play and get experience... and unless we get a high end offer and assuming it's more a guentzel haul with mid prospects and 2nd round picks......

hopefully that all makes sense lol