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Forum: Armchair-GM4 oct. 2022 à 7 h 29
Forum: Armchair-GM1 sept. 2022 à 7 h 12
Sujet: Id Feel a Ton Better - IF - We Did This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Yep I don't see a trade being made that satisfies both team needs...right now. Habs deserve better than essentially nothing for him and teams don't have much cap space to work with right now either.

With that said, "assets" is a loose term. A 7th rounder is an asset, so you got to be more specific. A 1st round pick? Yeah I agree, teams shouldn't be moving a 1st for a guy like Dvorak IMO, at least not right now. I will say this though, Dvorak is eerily similar to Copp in statistics. Good pro scouting is about finding the guys that are capable of producing better but have been hampered by bad teams, etc. Of all the teams Dvorak has been on in his NHL career since 16-17, only 4 players have ever scored 50+ points in one of those teams he was on.... Vrbata, Keller, Stepan and Suzuki. There is a reason why the Habs paid a 1st and 2nd to get him a couple years ago. He has potential to hit 50+ points on a good team, easily. Heck he was almost a PPG on the Habs once St Louis was hired and we saw the difference that made with Cole Caufield. I mean he was literally on pace for 48-49pts in back to back years. One season cut short due to covid and one due to injury.

The thing is though, I don't think the Habs are asking for a 1st. Its probably more modest than that. They are however, asking that they don't have to take on a guy like Zucker in return. Dvorak has value, teams do want him, maybe not for a too high price but they do want him. Nobody wants Zucker at 5.5M. Zucker on waivers right now would not even be picked up for free. So your paying a team to take him on. That isn't the case for Dvorak.</div></div>


The reason I made the Trade is for ......

The Pens to get a Center capable LWer w/ Geno &amp; some younger legs in Top 6. I have always been a HUGE Dvorak fan since he was a 18yr old w/ ARI but he has fallen off hard the last 2yrs &amp; analytically too. This is more of a.... "I HOPE" Dvorak can get back to his former play &amp; bc I always liked him, Ill take the risk.

For MTL to get out of the Dvorak Contract &amp; opens up more Cap $$ for next yr. Zucker is still a good player but just hasn't fit here at all &amp; u get a former 1st Rdr in Nylander, &amp; that 3rd Rdr. Also, then able to maybe re-flip Zucker at Deadline
Forum: Armchair-GM1 sept. 2022 à 7 h 3
Sujet: Id Feel a Ton Better - IF - We Did This
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>Bad news, Montreal doesn't need wingers, Dvorak's value is higher than this and Dvorak is not injury prone. In 6 years in the league he has only missed significant time (more than 5 games) twice. Once four years ago when he only played in 20 games and this year when he only played in 56, also some of the time missed this year was cause of getting COVID not being injured.</div></div>

Dvorak is injury prone, he has had injuries since he was in Jrs, starting with his knee injuries.
Plus Dvoraks analytics have been horrid last 2 yrs.

I always liked him since he was a Rookie w/ ARI but he has fallen off hard the last 2yrs.... This is more of a ... I hope he can get back to his ARI play type Trade.

It is probably more of a risk for Pens to take on his contract w/ how he's played the last 2yrs.