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SlickWilly

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Forum: Armchair-GMven. à 18 h 21
Sujet: Keeping Keith Losing Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KiSS_My_Asthma</b></div><div>At that point in time I would have traded him for 2 3rd round picks or a mid tier prospect. I was so annoyed with an NHL player throwing a tantrum and moving back to Finland.
I know there were a ton of issues, but he was not playing well at all.</div></div>

Thats fair. I know making these trades *helps* the rebuild a bit, but you still want to get fair value. Dach has had a pretty good attitude to this point (or so it would seem) so im not worried about that, and hes still shown that upside that made him great the 1st year. Its unfortunate his development has stalled because Colliton and King are apes that don't do anything to develop players (see Marty St Louis with Caufield), but I think long term he will end up as a good player. I think for me, I would trade Strome for the late 1st (basically carried our offense the last month of the season). Foegele doesnt really have much value for the Hawks long term. I think Bourgault is a decent prospect (QMJHL numbers are always inflated) but nothing awe inspiring, probably has similar value to Colton, who has really started to turn it on over the course of the season after a bad start. Not sure Im ready to give up Kirby, let alone with strome and Colton for what is being offered here.
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mai à 23 h 20
Sujet: Mix it up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>fair enough, this was an old ACGM I had sitting around so just wanted to get it out there. Thank you for the feedback I thought a change of scenery may have been mutually beneficial.



Yes some very valid points here. I think Strome stays unless we can get a 1st rounder or prospect of quality in return. I see Murphy moving more than McCabe due to the increased return he will likely get on the market and small 7 team list. I also think Fantili is a decent prospect next year if we miss out on Bedard Michkov</div></div>

Genuinely, its not ONLY about the next draft for me. I think we need to be prepared for at least another high pick in 2024. Even if we pick at 4 or 5 and end up with Stramel or Yager in 2023, Im perfectly happy with it as long as we commit to the future and make good second round picks (which we have plenty of)
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mai à 19 h 40
Sujet: Bedard watch is officially on
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SociallyHawkward</b></div><div>What's the point of trading debrincat for 2OA? Hoping you draft someone that can be as good as debrincat in 5 years? Hawks haven't had the best record when it comes to developing their players lately</div></div>

Trading Debrincat to embrace the tank would be a mistake, IMO. As a thought exercise, I went back to see how many teams that won the draft lottery used that player to win a cup as a part of their core group of guys. Would you like to know the last team to do so?

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The lightning, with Stamkos. And it took luck with Kucherov falling, with Point falling, another pick with Vasilevsky.

Before that, it was Ovechkin, and then Crosby, and then the Hawks.

My point being, the fastest turnaround time in the cap era was (the Hawks) when there was a foundation established before winning the lottery. Kane and Toews came and won in 3 years. And then kept winning. The same thing with Crosby and the Pens. They had a foundation to build upon for when Malkin Crosby and Letang were drafted. After acquiring Ovi, without said foundation, it took the Caps 15 years. It took the Lightning 10 years. My point of all this, being, that trading away the foundation (Debrincat) that our future core will be added to will be futile and will not lead to long term success (see Oilers)
Forum: Armchair-GM27 avr. à 17 h 54
Sujet: Habs Fan Doing an OffSeason Hawks ACGM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McRanteskog</b></div><div>EJ isnt a dump, maybe overpaid by 1-1.5mil, but only one year remaining.
COL can afford to keep him next year, for periods of time hes actually looked better than Manson tbh.
EJs value is probably a late 3rd/early 4th, far from a cap dump though. Stayed healthy, lays hits, blocks shots, leader in the locker room, still provided some offense etc. lots still to like about his game</div></div>

Thats fair. I wasn't sure how his game was lookin, just his cap hit. I think if anything, that makes it make even more sense to trade him tbh. You can get a return for him because you're not in an immediate cap crunch, and you can probably replace him on the open market with someone who would cost a little less, like maybe De Haan or Manson if he wants to stay.
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