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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 1 heure
Sujet: No Buyout or Trade Clauses Waived
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>That LA trade is quite possibly the worst trade I've seen in the history of this website.</div></div>

Not close.

Jakob Silfverberg for Brandon Dubinsky, Sonny Milano and a 2020 sixth-round pick
see <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/1234712">https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/1234712</a>

Alec Martinez (with $2 million retained) for Russian returnee Nikita Tryamkin and a 2022 fourth that only becomes a third if Tryamkin never comes back to North America
see <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/296754">https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/296754</a>

Tyler Toffoli even-up for Colton Parayko
see <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1721083">https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1721083</a>

Jakob Silfverberg and Anaheim’s 2021 second for Ristolainen

Max Domi for Ristolainen

Mikael Backlund for Risto and Marcus Davidsson

Jeff Petry ($1.5MM retained) for Peyton Krebs, Jon Merrill, Las Vegas 2020 first and St Louis 2021 second (Price_is_the_goat)

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for Casey Mittelstadt and Tage Thompson (Cpc114)
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 2 heures
Sujet: Leafs 21 One Big Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>It is correct that Anaheim is quickly building up a very nice prospect pool - my point is this - in this particular trade Anaheim is aquiring 4 mid twenties NHL players all entering their prime either signed with term or controlled RFAs for the price of 2 twilight players with no term and on the back end of thier careers - now if Anaheim was serious about a rebuild their stock pile of prospects is still 2 maybe even 3 seasons out - <strong>the 4 players acquired fall right in line, age and term wise, for a rebuilding team</strong>. In all honesty this is a very smart trade for Anaheim and very poor asset management from TO</div></div>

Let's set aside the issue of whether Getzlaf would waive or we would ask him to.

The problem is that you're ignoring who the 4 players are.

Where do you propose we play Johnsson among Rakell, Heinen, Milano, Jones and Comtois?

Where do you propose we play Dermott among Fowler, Lindholm, Djoos, Larsson, Mahura and Guhle?

Where do you propose we play Kerfoot among Henrique, Zegras, Steel, Lundestrom and Groulx?

Kapanen is admittedly an excellent addition and would play in our top 6, but only assuming that we didn't have to shift Rakell over to make room for Johnsson or Kerfoot on the left.

In short, in isolation, this is a good-value trade for Anaheim, but we have to play the team we have. We need help at RD and secondarily at RW, so effectively, we are taking one (Kapanen) and a half (Dermott on his off side) steps out of 4 forward. That's not enough.

And I agree with the OP's refutation of your claim that this is poor management on Toronto's part -- due, again, to the reality of the current structure of this team, some or all of these players are going to have to be moved this off-season or next.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 2 heures
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 5 heures
Sujet: How bad is this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>I wouldn't do this. You're trading away the 3 best prospects in the system, a potential franchise center with this year's #2, another Kaliyev at #35, as well as next year's 1st rounder (which will very likely be another lottery pick) for three players that will require exorbitant raises this fall. It's nice that all three of those players are established NHLers, but you're throwing away all of the price-controlled seasons of each of these players. The Kings go from being in an ideal cap situation to being another cap strapped team overnight.</div></div>

I think that the Barzal trade is unnecessary. Kopitar and Cirelli for now and Turcotte and Cirelli in the future is more than fine. Make the two draft picks seconds in 2020 and 2021 and we could even afford to add Akil Thomas if necessary.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: How bad is this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RangerWall92</b></div><div>Not sure why they would just destroy their future like that</div></div>

Vilardi's ceiling doesn't exceed Cirelli's.
Turcotte's ceiling doesn't exceed Barzal's.
Bjornfot's ceiling doesn't exceed Sergachev's.
Essentially, we'd be exchanging our next two first-round picks for upgrades at all three spots plus time, as none of our prospects will reach the levels the new players are at currently for two or three years.
Yes, I'd rather have Turcotte than Thomas, and I'd rather have Vilardi than Kupari, but I'd make these trades in a heartbeat -- IF the coaching staff thought we could accommodate three #1 centers on the same roster. Maybe play Cirelli and Barzal on the same line for the first two years?