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(CGY/VAN) - Lindholm for Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz, Jurmo, 2024 1st (VAN), 2024 4th (VAN)

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31 janv. à 20 h 56
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Trade confirmed: Calgary Flames - Vancouver Canucks
Détails de la transaction
Les Flames de Calgary font l’acquisition de:
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Andrei Kuzmenko · 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
Joni Jurmo · 0 $0 $0 $ (LAH/JR) (Droits de signature)
Hunter Brzustewicz · 0 $0 $0 $ (LAH/JR) (Droits de signature)
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (NJD) [Conditionnel]*
*Conditions: 1- Le choix de 4e ronde deviendra un de 3e ronde (VAN) dans l'éventualité où les Canucks atteignent la finale de la conférence de l'Ouest.
2- Si le choix demeure de 4e ronde, Calgary recevra le mieux classé parmi ceux détenus par Vancouver (VAN ou NJD).
Somme: 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
Variation: +650 000 $
Variation: +650 000 $
Variation: +650 000 $
Les Canucks de Vancouver font l’acquisition de:
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Elias Lindholm · 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
Somme: 4 850 000 $4 850 000 $4 850 000 $
Variation: -650 000 $
Variation: -650 000 $
Variation: -650 000 $
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31 janv. à 20 h 57
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Wild trade
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31 janv. à 20 h 58
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seems fair to me
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31 janv. à 20 h 58
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BOOM SHAKALAKA
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31 janv. à 20 h 59
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I'm now salivating about a Monahan trade, holy haul!

Seems like the Moneyball trade "And you add Joni ****ing Jurmo, because I want."
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31 janv. à 20 h 59
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Will be interesting to see if CGY flips Kuzmenko
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31 janv. à 20 h 59
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Love the fit for the Canucks, but this was a fantastic deal for the Flames. Kuzmenko will undoubtedly bounce back, and Brzustewicz will be a star. The draft picks are nice too.
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31 janv. à 20 h 59
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Divisional + Rival tax, plus an apparent last minute offer of the Rangers. It's pricey, especially given the early reports from media. But I can't say it's not a package that is warranted.

Kuzmenko was awesome until the coaching change meant he didn't fit. Lets hope Lindholm is a fit, because Kuzmenko could easily turn it around and make this look lopsided.

Winner TBD
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31 janv. à 21 h 0
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I'm pretty low on Lindholm, but I'm also pretty low on the stuff the Canucks sent back. Honestly fair deal. I'd be careful about signing Lindholm tho
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31 janv. à 21 h 0
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Brz and a first for a ufa center? not to mention kuzmenko? i dont even know lol this seems lopsided to me
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31 janv. à 21 h 2
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Fairly solid return. Imagine Calgary wins the early vote…Canucks win with deep playoff run.
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31 janv. à 21 h 2
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If it helps VAN go far, this will look great for them.

But I think it's a bit more in CGY's side with how much of a haul they're getting.

A first, a fourth, Kuzmenko, a solid prospect from last year and another prospect

EDIT: mistakenly said the wrong draft round for the second pick
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31 janv. à 21 h 2
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Andrei Kuzmenko is being overpaid and wasn't fitting in with the team, so that's not a huge loss.
Hunter Brzustewicz is having a monster season in the OHL, so that's a loss.
The 1st will be early 20s at best, which is still something.
Joni Jurmo will very likely never sign an NHL contract. Not sure why they were even included.
4th round pick is usually nothing.

Two real assets for Elias Lindholm and $650,000 less this year and even more savings next year to give to Petey.

Fair trade.
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31 janv. à 21 h 3
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Quoting: ColonelX
I'm now salivating about a Monahan trade, holy haul!

Seems like the Moneyball trade "And you add Joni ****ing Jurmo, because I want."


This really isn't as big a deal as people think. Jurmo is basically nothing and Bruz might be legit but most people seem to think he's not as good as the points suggest
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31 janv. à 21 h 4
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Quoting: ColonelX
I'm now salivating about a Monahan trade, holy haul!

Seems like the Moneyball trade "And you add Joni ****ing Jurmo, because I want."


I wouldn't expect this to really impact the market for Monahan, as they aren't really comparables other than the sense they are centers and (potential) rentals. Lindholm is a selke, top-six forward compared to Monahan who is a good middle-six pickup for a contending team. VAN is the best team in the league by record and makes more sense to pay a premium for a premium player. Monahan is a nice powerplay/faceoff guy, but I wouldn't really put these two in the same category.
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31 janv. à 21 h 4
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Flames W Lindholm is overrated imo
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31 janv. à 21 h 5
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... and thus endeth all the Buch to VAN City trades.
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31 janv. à 21 h 6
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Alright Avs fans! It's Monahan or Henrique!


Or someone else
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31 janv. à 21 h 6
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Dumping Kuzmenko makes this a massive W for VAN. He had negative value at $5.5M. Lindholm makes them a legit threat in the west.
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31 janv. à 21 h 6
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NO MORE LINDY TO AVS AGCMS!!!!!!!
31 janv. à 21 h 7
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My benchmark for a fair deal on Lindholm was Kuzmenko + Raty + 2024 1st.

That was assuming Calgary would retain on Lindholm.



The only question is whether Jurmo + Hunter Brz + a conditional 4th is worth more than Raty.

IMO, the answer is a resounding yes.



This is a home run for the Flames.

Calgary win the trade.
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31 janv. à 21 h 7
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Can't wait to see the inflated Monahan trade proposals that are undoubtedly coming.
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31 janv. à 21 h 7
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I'm pretty low on Lindholm, but I'm also pretty low on the stuff the Canucks sent back. Honestly fair deal. I'd be careful about signing Lindholm tho


Andrei Kuzmenko wasn't living up to his contract and I doubt things were going to get better, so the Canucks losing him isn't a real loss.
The 1st and Hunter Brzustewicz should turn into NHL players, but the other two parts are just whatever.

If Lindholm gets Vancouver to the final four, then they win this trade.
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31 janv. à 21 h 7
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Guess Patty was a little to giddy over his new deal...
Jim's lost his fast-ball and his able-walker!

5-for-1 trades, one a UFA, are so retro-1990s
31 janv. à 21 h 7
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Canucks were fortunate to rid 5.5m Kuzmenko next year. The juniors may never be NHLer so Flames are depending 1st rounder to make the deal.
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