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Forum: NHL Signings18 janv. à 19 h 34
Sujet: Minnesota Wild signed Matthew Boldy (7 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Upper_Body_Injury</b></div><div>Well that was part of the problem with Fiala BG gave him a one year prove it deal and Fiala stuck it to BG by scoring 85 points which basically sealed his fate that he wasn't going to be re-signed. I think BG signed Boldy early with term to get ahead of this so it doesn't play out like Fiala. So yeah in the short term 1-2 years (buyout pain) this "looks" like a bad signing but the rest of the contract BG is counting on the cap going up and the buyouts coming off the books there will be lots of money to spend and if he can get some top 6 players to put with Boldy he will out perform this contract. But as of now his linemates aren't up to Fiala status when Boldy was producing last year. Not every player can be McDavid and be a one man show but those guys are making 10mil+

Besides there was no way Fiala was taking less than what he got in LA and there was no way for the Wild to pay that, but yeah Dumba is gone either at the TDL or we let him walk this summer unless he is willing to take a huge haircut on his contract.

Edit: I should also mention that it has been reported that BG was looking to do just a bridge deal with Boldy but both sides agreed to get a longer term deal done.</div></div>

Well clearly he's a good young player, this just seems like a high price to pay at the moment. In 2-4 years everything changes. I would certainly look to trade Dumba then but ya know, good team with an own rental.

You feel like you can win some rounds with Dumba? Or worth it to get something for him?
Forum: NHL Signings17 janv. à 0 h 20
Sujet: Minnesota Wild signed Matthew Boldy (7 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>People on CapFriendly are all over the place. Tage scores 38 goals in a season and people don't think he deserves $7.14mm/year. Boldy scores 27 career goals and they think this is a good deal.

In a vacuum, I think this is a good deal, but MIN has some serious cap issues in the next couple years. Surprised they went this big with Boldy already. Not due to talent, just purely due to their cap situation.</div></div>

Yea I think Guerin feels like the kid is a stud so he has this being a bargain down the line. I just don't understand why he did it this early? Maybe he thinks he'll be worth way more sooner rather than later? You just have the dead cap hits of those two huge deals for two more seasons... couldn't you sign him to a lesser deal? Maybe he did some projections and it worked out best this way. I don't see Boldy being a 7M$ player, or a pp/g player any time soon (next 2+ seasons) if we're being honest. But yeah... I don't see why they didn't make a harder pitch to Fiala, sign Boldy to a bridge, and just get some assets for Dumba already.


No way they're resigning him now though, right?
Forum: NHL Signings17 janv. à 0 h 12
Sujet: Minnesota Wild signed Matthew Boldy (7 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>And just to add, this is just kind of strange. This is a contract they could have given to Fiala (albeit on a shorter term) and then have kept Boldy too (on a bridge).

I could be completely wrong, but I would have to think they could have signed Fiala to 3 X $6mm and Boldy to 2 X $2.5mm...or something along those lines.</div></div>

I don't think Fiala would have signed a 3X6 like that. You saw what he got from LA. Boldy though, certainly could have taken less in a bridge deal. You have to think Guerin is sold on him and wanted a good price point long term. That means he thinks this will age well. I'm not convinced personally. Seems like a lot to give a player so early in his career when the standard has been a 2 to 3 year bridge at a manageable hit. Other people mentioned Stutzle and Norris deals... neither of those look great at the moment.
Forum: Pittsburgh Penguins31 déc. 2022 à 6 h 2
Sujet: Worst game in years
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pensfan21</b></div><div>At what point do you think it might be time to consider a coaching change? For me if we lose in first round this year or collapse and don't make playoffs then I would do it. I think he's a great coach, but every great coach also has an expiration date. I would've fired Hextall by now too</div></div>

You're right about Sullivan 100%. I don't like that they gave him an extension. I doubt they'd do it but if we did lose first round or not make it, they should, and if Hextall didn't, then I'd agree he might need some flack too. I like a lot of the moves and signings he's made so far, although I have legit questions about Jarry in the playoffs still.

If he can bring us Bo Horvat for Joseph and 1st round pick I'm down. Then we trade another 1st for Chychrun and pray Jarry can hold it down in the playoffs and win us some series. lol but he has room to make some moves by pushing out contracts. We'll see what he does up until the deadline.

He played Sid 3 more minutes than Geno tonight again btw. And that amount of power play disfunction is disheartening. Sure no Letang but still. 0 goals and like 10 plus minutes and you give up a shorty with like less than 30 seconds in the period? That's just not winning hockey.
Forum: Pittsburgh Penguins30 déc. 2022 à 16 h 3
Sujet: Worst game in years
We def need a legit D who can step in and play big minutes. There's a couple of trades I'd like to see.

One is for Chychrun. We have the pieces to make it work. He would make our blue line much deeper.

The other is for Horvat, and depending, maybe Myers. I know he kind of sucks but he has a solid history and he's huge. I think he would be a good addition if we couldn't get Chychrun and they'd be willing to retain salary.

If we got Horvat... all bets are off. He'd be our 3C and we could afford to keep him. He is an absolute beast in the dot, and plays all special teams. Heart on his sleeve. Great loyalty. He would make the room a much more accountable place.

Jarry, Dumo, and Zucker are UFA at the end of the year, clearing up a bunch of money.

Letang needs to find his game and get back to producing points, especially at ES. Malkin needs more ice time, and Sid needs less. Sully has always played Sid more the last 3 plus years and look at what that's gotten us.

Sullivan, I do believe, is a good coach. BUT his deployment is highly questionable, and as he's said in the past, it's one of the only things you CAN control as a coach. Sully's line changes are annoying af ESPECIALLY in OT. With this much skill how the hell are they so bad in the extra frame? It makes no sense. And it's because of coaching.
Forum: NHL Signings7 oct. 2022 à 16 h 39
Sujet: Calgary Flames signed MacKenzie Weegar (8 Years / $6,250,000 AAV)
This is a great deal considering Weegar is a high level D, easily a top 4. He's good in his own zone and can anchor anybody else who isn't. Calgary got much better with that trade, when you look at the resignings. Huberdeau being better long term for FL is up for debate but when you turn Tkachuk into a guy who is arguably better than him AND a top 4 stud on the back end AND a 1st round pick it's mind blowing. Zito got fleeced and I don't use that term lightly.

If he even traded Huberdeau straight up for Tkachuk with those deals in place it's still a questionable trade for the Cats. Throw in Weegar and a first and it's a deal that made Florida noticeably worse. We'll see if either team wins a Cup during these deals. But Calgary is def better now than they were before. This deal is the icing on quite a retooling cake by Treviling.

If I was a Cgy fan, i'd have been tormented by Gaudreau leaving. But man he made up for that **** quick.
Forum: Pittsburgh Penguins5 sept. 2022 à 16 h 20
Sujet: Is Hextall going to keep the Pens in contention status, and will he get let go once the contention window has closed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Until Geno gets hurt</div></div>

Well, you know, maybe an entire offseason and clean bill of health has him good to go for once. Last year he was never really healthy. Right now he should be. Motivated too. I always assume players will be healthy and stick to the positive aspect of it because you never know. He could be healthy the rest of his career. I sure wish him that clean bill of health. Would be nice to see him look like his old self confidence wise.

To go back on your other post, to me the D is GREATLY improved because Petry is much better than either Marino or Matheson. Neither of them impressed me, in fact, they both made mental errors in the playoffs in their own zones multiple times. It was frustrating. Our 2nd pair is locked in now. We have another guy who, actually, could be trusted to play some top pair minutes. Rutta played with Hedman and won 2 cups. He is versatile, and probably smart.

Smith will be better with us, he's very young, and he has a legit high ceiling. Who knows. I do still want us to get another top 4 guy. But right now, not paying those 2 guys over 9m for years to come is a huge win in my book.

On paper, we have great forward depth man. Our top 6 is stacked. Kap is on the third line, and he had chemistry with Carter last year, who is also a solid 3c. Our 4th line, right now, is a bit sus b/c I'm not sure about Poehling. But Archibald flies around. Blueger is a good bottom 6 guy. Zohorna has potential.

We had no problem scoring last year in the playoffs on the best goalie in the league... but they didn't have much trouble putting shots through our 3rd stringer either. If Jarry and DeSmith can play to their ability and stay focused and healthy come playoff time we are a legit Cup threat.

It all comes down to goaltending. Maybe we'll trade DeSmith and Zucker to Minny for Dumba and Flower.... HA
Forum: Pittsburgh Penguins4 sept. 2022 à 14 h 36
Sujet: Is Hextall going to keep the Pens in contention status, and will he get let go once the contention window has closed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Who TF are you to judge? For all everyone else see's, you're just a troll who favors the Pens. Everyone knows Jarry isn't elite. This Penguins team isn't as stacked as the other team's that are projected cup contenders. Whether that's on the back end or up front. Deal with it. You're only deluding yourself if you think the Pens are contenders next season without JT Miller</div></div>

The Pens forward group is dynamic and deep. The defense has been reshaped and sits in a better spot than it did last year with Marino and Matheson blowing it in their own zones. 3 goals in the Rangers series went in off of Matheson. Jarry and DeSmith are BOTH much, much better at goaltending than ****in spicy pork boy.

So yes barring health, the Pens on paper are stacked and are for sure a cup contender. The Rangers got lucky against us. The year before the Islanders got lucky Jarry forgot how to goalie in Game 5. The last two seasons we got beat by our own goaltending.

Your doom and gloom mentality is bollocks man
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals12 août 2022 à 14 h 37
Sujet: Barzal to detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>You’re putting too much faith into NHL coaches when most of them have shown that they constantly make mistakes and rely on underperforming vets over better young players.

Dobson led the isles in even strength ice time last season and Trotz has never given any defenseman 23-24 min of ice time. He plays all 3 D pairs a good amount.

No, I’m talking about what Dobson is right now. He was great on the PK and he’s very good at defending the rush + inside the defensive zone. He’s already the isles #1 defenseman.</div></div>


Well to your point he led the Islanders last season in total TOI/G for defensemen. I was actually surprised by that, although tbh, it wasn't by much.

I don't know how good he is is defensively I haven't watched him enough but you seem to have a strong opinion about his skillset. To me he's more offensive but that's just from what I can see on paper.

I would also say Pelech and Pulock are both better in terms of defense, Pulock being the most balanced. But hey maybe Trotz had no idea what he was doing and they should be taking a seat.

If you had to pick one to be your #1 guy it seems situational, as they're all good and none are that old. Pelech went +20 on a team where the next closest guy was +8. Trotz was certainly playing Chara and Greene more than he should have but they're gone now.

Well see what Lambert thinks and how he continues to develop in his 4th year. As a Pens fan I hope he sucks but hey JK lol.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals12 août 2022 à 3 h 10
Sujet: Barzal to detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Dobson is a two way defenseman - just because his coach gave him more offensive zone starts doesn’t mean much. Most zone starts are on the fly anyways. Dobson has everything you want in a shutdown defenseman : size, elite skating ability, high IQ. He’ll always be good offensively but his value will come from being an all situations top pair D who can play 23-25 min per game.</div></div>

Mmmm deployment does indeed matter. It's not random; it's a part of coaching, trust, and skill set. You said Klingberg is a liability. He is clearly more offensively gifted. His zone starts show that his coaches were aware of that as well.

Well see if Dobson gets that kind of ice time as his career progresses. This past year, his third on the big boys team, he was at 21:28/game. Seider was at 23:02 in his rookie year, for reference.

You seem to be speaking about Dobson's potential more than who he is right now as a player. Even if he is good enough to take those types of minutes, the Islanders have a legit top pair already, so he might not get them even if he deserves them.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals10 août 2022 à 23 h 50
Sujet: Barzal to detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Dobson didn’t get the opportunity to be as good as Seider his rookie year, but their underlying numbers were similar

Dobson is solid defensively at even strength and on the PK. Dobson was literally drafted to be a #1 minute muncher because of his defensive ability. Klingberg is a liability.</div></div>

Well... maybe Seider got more of an opportunity because he was better earlier in his career? Like if Andy Greene was on the Red Wings you don't think Seider would have beat him out for a spot, or put up better numbers than him, as a rookie, on the Islanders? Dobson had 7 points in 34 games as a rookie.

If their underlying numbers were the same but Seider got deployed more and against better players, more often, that means his underlying numbers were much better, doesn't it? Because his quality of competition was higher in both quality and quantity.

Plus he won the Calder.... to me their rookie seasons aren't really comparable.

On the other note, Dobson's zone starts point toward him being more offensively deployed. Maybe they realized he's good in that zone once they drafted him, although I do seem to remember him being billed as such when he was drafted too. If you're saying he isn't a liability... maybe you're right. He's clearly better in the O zone though... He's an offensive defensemen. He just scored double digit goals in a season with 50 +points.

Petro's zone starts are split in favor of the D zone (49%o/51d). I don't think Dobson's ever will be that close because he's more often deployed in the O (~62/38) than Kberg (~61/39), with a much smaller sample size, but still.

And as far as the top pairing jazz I guess you could say that, looking at his numbers. The Islanders have a legit balanced/defensive top pairing already though, in Pelech/Pulock. Guess we'll see how he looks in Year 4. But yeah, you high on this boy. I get it. Are you an Isles fan, you watch him a lot?
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals9 août 2022 à 18 h 59
Sujet: Barzal to detroit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>No one is cale Makar. Dobson had a better season than seider last year.

Dobson is pietrangelo 2.0. Detroit doesn’t have the pieces to acquire him without sending Raymond. #1 RHD will always be worth more than scoring wingers</div></div>

Seider was in his rookie season this past year and he won the Calder. If you compare rookie seasons, Seider smoked Dobson's rookie year. Not even close. You are clearly very high on Dobson. Fine. But at the same time saying he is the next Petro is an over assessment. Dobson seems more offensive to me. Petro was always a balanced guy. Took the toughest assignments. Played huge minutes. Dobson does not strike me as that kind of player just yet, and I doubt he'll ever be a number 1 shut down guy.

Dobson is more like John Klingberg than Petro.
Forum: Trade Machine Proposals9 août 2022 à 18 h 48
Forum: NHL Signings5 août 2022 à 10 h 23
Sujet: San Jose Sharks signed Mario Ferraro (4 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kjell_Forsman</b></div><div>You’re right. If:
Kahkonen/Reimer have a great season
Labanc bounces back
Eklund breaks out
Karlsson stays healthy and becomes “the guy”
The new guys Sturm, Kunin, Lindblom and Lorentz fill the intended roles and can each pot around 12 goals
Meier Hertl and Barabanov continue to tear up defenses
Gregor continues to improve his shot

Then yeah, if the stars align, we might compete in the pacific. Who knows right</div></div>

Yeah haha the goaltending is the biggest question for me. Should be a good tandem but does Reimer still have it and can Kahkonen make the next step in his development? I think Lindblom will be good but the other 3 are questionable, especially Kunin. I feel like Sturm and Lorentz were signed more for their physicality than their scoring depth.

It'll be an interesting division this year. Seattle got noticeably better. I don't think that their goaltending will be as bad as it was last year. Vegas and Vancouver were really close. The Kings got much better adding Fiala. It looks like it'll be competitive and that there aren't any shoe-ins; the only team that looks like it's going to be bad is Anaheim and they went out and added Klingberg, Strome, and Vatrano.
Forum: NHL Signings5 août 2022 à 2 h 43
Sujet: Calgary Flames signed Jonathan Huberdeau (8 Years / $10,500,000 AAV)
They build around Huby now. Crazily, like this never happens, but they lost their top 2 Ws in one offseason. Luckily they got a Hart candidate for one of them. Huby &gt; Tkachuk and he's close to Gaudreau, they're very similar players actually. Either way, if I'm CGY I'm pumped. He signed long term. Now they can figure out how to build the team around him. Lots of the pieces are there. The blue line needs tinkering. But this is a team that was really good last year, especially at ES. I don't see that changing, and I could also see them getting better through perhaps another trade on the back end.

Sutter is a good coach. Markstrom had a tremendous year. Can they compete with EDM, VGK, LAK in the playoffs? We'll see. That's where they need the biggest improvement. But most teams don't even get there. They may have lost a franchise icon this offseason but they added one of the best W in the entire league to become the next version of what they lost.

Overall who cares about his age. We'll see how he gets along playing with Lindholm and ____ (Mangiapane?). He's not an overly physical guy. He has amazing hockey sense, hands, and skating ability. We'll see if Monahan can come back or if he is washed. But this is the type of deal they needed. Anything less than him resigning would have been a loss. Now they got their guy. It'll be fascinating to see if FLA or CGY even comes close to winning a Cup in the next 8 years... talk about a wild ass potential Cup final haha.
Forum: NHL Signings5 août 2022 à 2 h 23
Sujet: San Jose Sharks signed Mario Ferraro (4 Years / $3,250,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kjell_Forsman</b></div><div>Logan is still the captain and has earned the right to keep the C imo. But if the C is ever available in SJ over the next few years for whatever reason I think Mario is one of the more obvious candidates.

Sharks are in the midst of a youth movement and Mario is at the forefront of that movement at age 23. Hertl is still “the guy” at forward. Logan is the 2-way guy. Timo is the scoring guy and Mario is the youth guy.

That said though, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Erik Karlsson get consideration if he can start to get healthy. Karlsson thrives on being thee guy.</div></div>

Yea I was mainly talking about how you said "will to win" because the guys I mentioned have that big time. Especially Couture I mean his playoff points are wild. It wasn't that long ago that the Sharks were in the WCF. If they can actually get some good goaltending, and EK can bring his big time "I'm that guy" on the blue line (and stay healthy) I could see them pushing in the Pacific this season. I don't watch them enough but you've sold me on Mario.

Just sayin, Couture and Hertl are still beast mode players who certainly have a big time will to win. And if we're counting just will, I'd imagine Vlasic would rather block 100000 shots than never win a Cup, even if they're all with his face.