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Forum: NHL Tradesil y a 7 heures
Sujet: (CGY/MTL) - Monahan, conditional 2025 1st for future considerations
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil</b></div><div>Here are the conditions associated with the first-round selection acquired by Montreal:

1. In the event Calgary's own 2024 first (1st) round choice is selection 20-32 (inclusive) (following the determination of the 2024 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall have the option, exercisable until 48 hours prior to the start of the 2024 NHL draft, to exchange the conditional 2025 or 2026 first round choice to become Calgary's own 2024 first (1st) round choice); or,

If Florida's 2025 First (1st) Round Choice Transfers to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)

2. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal's option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:

A) If both Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice (previously acquired by Calgary) are not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), then Montreal shall receive the earlier of the two (2) stated choices; or,
B) If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection and Florida's 2025 first round selection (previously acquired by Calgary) is outside of the top-10 selections (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice).
If Florida's 2025 First Round Choice DOES NOT Transfer to Calgary (pursuant to the conditions on an earlier trade)

3. In the event the conditions to trigger Montreal's option as noted in #1 above does not occur, or Montreal declines to exercise this option, the following conditions shall prevail:

A. If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice, and additionally,

1) If Florida's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is not in the top-10 selections of the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results); and,
2) Florida's 2025 first (1st) round choice has been transferred to another NHL Club; and,
3) Florida's 2025 first round draft position is better than Calgary's 2025 first round draft position; then Calgary will transfer their own 2025 fourth round choice to Montreal.
B. If Calgary's own 2025 first (1st) round choice is a top-10 selection (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Montreal shall receive Calgary's 2025 first (1st) round choice, subject to the following condition below:

1) In the event Calgary's 2025 first (1st) round choice is the first (1st) selection overall in the 2025 NHL Draft (following the determination of the 2025 NHL Draft lottery results), Calgary will retain its own 2025 first (1st) round choice and Montreal shall instead receive Calgary's own 2025 third (3rd) round choice and a conditional 2026 first (1st) round choice. Montreal shall receive the better of Calgary's 2026 first (1st) round choice or Florida's 2026 first (1st) round choice (following the determination of the 2026 NHL Draft lottery results) (previously conditionally acquired by Calgary).</div></div>

I have a feeling you just copied and pasted from this press release:

https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/canadiens-acquire-sean-monahan-from-flames/c-335312254
Forum: NHL Tradesil y a 8 heures
Sujet: (CGY/MTL) - Monahan, conditional 2025 1st for future considerations
This is what I wrote in the site discussion on the forums.

To make it easier to understand, I made a point-form list that breaks it down into smaller chunks.




1. If Calgary's 2024 first is between #20 and #32, Montreal can have that or decide to wait until 2025.




2. If Montreal waits until 2025 and is able to receive Florida's 2025 first from Calgary:

&gt; Montreal receives Florida's 2025 first if Calgary's 2025 first is in the Top 10.

&gt; Montreal receives whichever of the two firsts is higher if Calgary's 2025 first is not in the Top 10.




3. If Montreal waits until 2025 and Florida's 2025 first is not available:

&gt; Montreal receives Calgary's 2025 first if it is not in the Top 10.

&gt; Montreal also receives Calgary's 2025 fourth ...

&gt;&gt;&gt; if Florida's 2025 first is not in the Top 10 ...
&gt;&gt;&gt; if Florida's 2025 first is traded to another team ...
&gt;&gt;&gt; and if it's higher than Calgary's 2025 first.




4. If Montreal waits until 2025, if Florida's 2025 first is not available and if Calgary's 2025 first is in the Top 10:

&gt; Montreal receives Calgary's 2025 first if it's not #1




5. If Montreal waits until 2025, if Florida's 2025 first is not available and if Calgary's 2025 first is #1:

&gt; Montreal receives Calgary's 2025 third + whichever 2026 first is higher between Calgary and Florida
Forum: Site Discussionil y a 10 heures
Sujet: How I would write out the condition on the 1st round pick in the Monahan trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>EsoYeezus69</b></div><div>This is my analysis on the conditions:

<strong> 1. Montreal can chose Calgary’s 2024 1st if it’s between pick 20 and pick 32
2. If they decide to not take that pick it’s between the 2025 1st of Florida or Calgary
3. If both picks are out of the top 10, Montreal receives the highest one
4. If Calgary’s pick is top 10 and Florida’s isn’t, they receive Florida’s pick
5. If Florida’s pick is top 10 and Calgary’s isn’t, that pick goes back to Florida and Montreal gets Calgary’s pick
6. If Montreal is supposed to get Florida’s pick (because they’re both outside the top 10, and is higher than Calgary’s), and it gets traded, they receive Calgary’s 2025 pick plus a 2025 4th
7. If both are top 10, Florida’s pick goes back to Florida and Calgary keeps their pick, but:

A. If it’s 1st ov, they get the better 2026 1st between Florida and Calgary and Calgary’s 2025 3rd
B. If it’s 2-10th ov, they receives Calgary’s 2026 first </strong></div></div>

I got my interpretation from this press release by the Montreal Canadiens:

https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/canadiens-acquire-sean-monahan-from-flames/c-335312254



If you write it out in a list that is in bullet-form and a format that visually-appealing, it might be easier to understand.

It allows you to game out all the different scenarios.
Forum: Site Discussionil y a 10 heures
Sujet: How I would write out the condition on the 1st round pick in the Monahan trade
1. If Calgary's 2024 first is between #20 and #32, Montreal can have that or decide to wait until 2025.




2. If Montreal waits until 2025 and is able to receive Florida's 2025 first from Calgary:

&gt; Montreal receives Florida's 2025 first if Calgary's 2025 first is in the Top 10.

&gt; Montreal receives whichever of the two firsts is higher if Calgary's 2025 first is not in the Top 10.




3. If Montreal waits until 2025 and Florida's 2025 first is not available:

&gt; Montreal receives Calgary's 2025 first if it is not in the Top 10.

&gt; Montreal also receives Calgary's 2025 fourth ...

&gt;&gt;&gt; if Florida's 2025 first is not in the Top 10 ...
&gt;&gt;&gt; if Florida's 2025 first is traded to another team ...
&gt;&gt;&gt; and if it's higher than Calgary's 2025 first.




4. If Montreal waits until 2025, if Florida's 2025 first is not available and if Calgary's 2025 first is in the Top 10:

&gt; Montreal receives Calgary's 2025 first if it's not #1




5. If Montreal waits until 2025, if Florida's 2025 first is not available and if Calgary's 2025 first is #1:

&gt; Montreal receives Calgary's 2025 third + whichever 2026 first is higher between Calgary and Florida
Forum: Armchair-GM8 août à 21 h 21
Sujet: Sens me a Right Winger and some Luc
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMac66</b></div><div>Accepts? Damn I hope not. Unless he had something to do with the 2018 sexual misconduct, Batherson won't be going anywhere. So assuming he didn't, I don't like that trade at all. No way should they be adding a 1st with the best player in the trade.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>You mean if Batherson is guilty? He would be suspended (and hopefully imprisoned) and not traded

As of now, he has more value than the Flames package

Sens aren't adding Pinto and a 1st on top of it lol

That's a package for Huberdeau with retention</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>On what planet</div></div>


I'm assuming three things:



1. Batherson did what he did.

2. Pinto doesn't bounce back from the injury that limited him to just 5 games last season.

3. Calgary is closing in on an extension for Weegar.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 août à 20 h 36
Sujet: Dobson is the hot girl on the block
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sens_Sicko</b></div><div>Yea I'm not disagreeing lol, I would rather eat zaitsev's contract. This is just to fit Dobson on the team for this what-if scenario, whenever I make a trade to dump zaitsev with a 2nd plus other assets I get told not enough it'll take a first so I just wanted to avoid that</div></div>

FWIW, the one example that I know immediately off the top of my head is when the Leafs spent the 13th overall pick in 2020 to dump Patrick Marleau.

That was when Marleau had a NMC on a 35+ contract with a cap hit of 6.25 million.

Nothing happens to the player's cap hit if said player is bought out on a 35+ contract.

At the time, the Leafs were completely out of options.



Other than that, I can't think of any other examples.
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