Marc-Andre Fleury vs Matt Murray

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Créé par: AnalyticsGeek

Équipe: 2019-20 Équipe personnalisée

Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2020

Publié: 14 juin 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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I am planning to make an all-time team series on YouTube for every NHL club & feel that picking the goalies for Pittsburgh will be a tricky one. My choice for starter for Tom Barrasso, he won everything for a player in his position & posted great numbers for his era. Should he in the HOF.

For backup, I don’t know who to choose between Murray & Fleury. They are the two most significant goalies in Penguins history after Barrasso in my opinion.

Personally, my choice would go to Murray because he’s put up better results in the playoffs, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that Fleury holds most of the regular season season records. So I’m putting a poll for y’all to share your opinion on this debate.

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	81 500 000 $	96 979 891 $	0 $	0 $	-15 479 891 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 6	Hörnqvist, Patric 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 4
Kunitz, Chris 3 850 000 $3 850 000 $	Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Rust, Bryan 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Hagelin, Carl 2 750 000 $2 750 000 $ AG UFA - 4	Bonino, Nick 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Kessel, Phil 6 800 000 $6 800 000 $ AD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Fehr, Eric 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $	Cullen, Matt 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $	Kühnhackl, Tom 850 000 $850 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Letang, Kris 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli 3 333 225 $3 333 225 $ DG UFA - 3	Daley, Trevor 3 166 666 $3 166 666 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	Fleury, Marc-André 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 3
Cole, Ian 3 450 000 $3 450 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Schultz, Justin 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Simon, Dominik 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Sheary, Conor 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1
Hainsey, Ron 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1
Lovejoy, Ben 2 330 000 $2 330 000 $

Who Should Serve As Backup To Barrasso In All Time Pens Team?

14 juin 2020 à 12 h 5

AnalyticsGeek

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Modifié 14 juin 2020 à 17 h 14

@Pens3lieve @mhockey91 @Yojimbo @hockeyfanatic05 @pensfan89 @Geno_the_Hero @adamitis @sidstick87 @NoWah49 @jesus @Arom5477 @CHUG @habs123 @aadoyle @MaxDomi13 @Isles777 @OldNYIfan @SammyT_51 @csick @exo2769 @ChiHawk @ForsbergForVezina @Jexus @SevenLeg @AFOX10900 @Sagecoll @BeastModeUnknown @STLBlues17 @moli92 @firezfurx @mokumboi @leafs_and_sens_fan @Jamiepo @keep_ups12 @bhavikp27 @Bcarlo25 @Silkysmooth42 @Capitalfail67 @palhal

Alright so I made this thread to hear your ideas on which goalie should make my all time Pens team as backup to Tom Barrasso. Make sure you submit your vote in the poll.

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14 juin 2020 à 12 h 7

KeepUps15

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This isn't even a question. Marc Andre Fleury is a hall of famer. Murray isn't even close

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14 juin 2020 à 12 h 8

Ragsandbluesfan

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Fleury, pens have done thing since fleury left

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14 juin 2020 à 12 h 9

Jexus

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It is easy Tomas Vokoun @MitchMarnerElite

I make joke it is not close. Fleury

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14 juin 2020 à 12 h 13

STLBlues17

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Neither, they’re both buns

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14 juin 2020 à 12 h 17

bhavikp27

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Murray has only played for four years. If you take quantity+quality, Murray. Fleury will get the edge because he played more

Quoting: keep_ups12

Marc Andre Fleury is a hall of famer.

Oh and his reputation

14 juin 2020 à 12 h 24

zk97

its been a pleasure

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Quoting: keep_ups12

This isn't even a question. Marc Andre Fleury is a hall of famer. Murray isn't even close

This. Fleury >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Murray. Simple as that, also I have no clue who Barrasso is lol

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14 juin 2020 à 12 h 26

ForsbergForVezina

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Fleury and it’s not even close for me

Not a slight towards Murray, but Fleury embodies the Penguins rise in the 21st Century. He’s in Vegas now, but I’ll always think of him as a Penguin tbh

14 juin 2020 à 13 h 5

LeafsFanForSomeReason

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Fleury

14 juin 2020 à 13 h 26

#10

justaBoss

Thank you Pavelski

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Fleury in this context.

14 juin 2020 à 13 h 56

#11

Silkysmooth42

Banni

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Lol yeah Murray is just an overrated goalie in general anyway

Flower by a mile but im sure your series will be cool!

14 juin 2020 à 14 h 7

#12

Philly79

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

@Pens3lieve @mhockey91 @Yojimbo @hockeyfanatic05 @pensfan89 @Geno_the_Hero @adamitis @sidstick87 @NoWah49 @jesus @Arom5477 @CHUG @habs123 @aadoyle @MaxDomi13 @Isles777 @OldNYIfan @SammyT_51 @csick @exo2769 @ChiHawk @ForsbergForVezina @Jexus @SevenLeg @AFOX10900 @Sagecoll @BeastModeUnknown @STLBlues17 @moli92 @firezfurx @mokumboi @leafs_and_sens_fan @Jamiepo @keep_ups12 @bhavikp27 @Bcarlo25 @Silkysmooth42

Alright so I made this thread to hear your ideas on which goalie should make my all time Pens team as backup to Tom Barrasso. Make sure you submit your vote in the poll.

Fleury is better big time before when he was young and even now when he is in his late 30s
Murray isn’t that good this year
Murray was only really good when they won the cup the rest he wasn’t that great
I don’t think Murray is even a all star

14 juin 2020 à 14 h 8

#13

zk97

its been a pleasure

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Quoting: Habs123

Dude don't quote stuff that has @ mentions in it

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14 juin 2020 à 14 h 16

#14

Yojimbo

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3rd string: Brent Johnson for his 1 punch KO of DiPietro, and then willingness to take on thug Haley the next game.

I also like his Caps post game show.

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14 juin 2020 à 14 h 22

#15

Yojimbo

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And to the comment about Barrasso and the HOF... While I had a few very nice interactions with him, he was a COMPLETE a-whole to the press and usually a general dbag off of the ice. The people that do the actual voting are more likely to give Barrasso the finger right to his face rather than vote him in.

14 juin 2020 à 14 h 28

#16

pharrow

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Quoting: Yojimbo

in all fairness I'd be a complete a hole to the press too!
Hell they go after players at random and always ask dumb ass sh! t

Hell they tore apart Jack Johnson before he even wore a jersey for the penguins.

Murray > MAF. Is my vote.

Lot of people here have some weird memories of MAF. I remember him watching soft pucks go past him into the net costing stacked teams playoff victories.

Besides the team plays differently for Murray. And always has.

14 juin 2020 à 14 h 50

#17

Leafs_and_Sens_Fan

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Fleury for now. If Murray puts in a few great seasons though that could change.

14 juin 2020 à 15 h 11

#18

Pens3lieve

Hockey IQ

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Fleury for his quantity of great seasons for the pens despite his playoff letdowns. when Murray is 35 ask me again...

14 juin 2020 à 15 h 14

#19

exo2769

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Fleury as of right now. Matt Murray's story hasn't been completely written yet. It could get better...or worse. He's got a tremendous start, but he's got a ways to go IMO. If he gets traded...then its not even close, but again just 1 man's opinion.

14 juin 2020 à 15 h 25

#20

Adomaitis

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I mean just Bc history MAF, but Murray is the better goalie, even with a down year. MAF is super inconsistent too and makes 7m for 2 more years ....

I mean vegas doesn’t wanna move him Bc he’s doing a knock out job....

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14 juin 2020 à 15 h 53

#21

mhockey91

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Fleury career wise, but people like to forget how bad fleury was in the playoffs from 2010-2014. he blew multiple Chances at the cup for us. I’m glad we have Murray now

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14 juin 2020 à 15 h 58

#22

Shylo_Moxii

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I smell BrandonDubinsky fan in this guy linking all of us.....Only time Murray won was when he had Fleury's help in playoffs. Fleury was doing it by himself a few times throughout the years. Fleury has the history of being a great Goalie. Murray since Fleury left hasn't made it past the 2nd round, and Fleury made it to the Finals once.

14 juin 2020 à 17 h 48

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bhavikp27

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Quoting: Habs123

Fleury is better big time before when he was young and even now when he is in his late 30s

14 juin 2020 à 18 h 24

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AnalyticsGeek

Démarrer sujet

Banni

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

@

Alright so I made this thread to hear your ideas on which goalie should make my all time Pens team as backup to Tom Barrasso. Make sure you submit your vote in the poll.

14 juin 2020 à 18 h 25

#25

zk97

its been a pleasure

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Quoting: MitchMarnerElite

That works, but how did I still get mentioned?

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