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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mv21227</b></div><div>So what is a young, top 6 winger who plays at a 65+ point pace worth to you? He is likely to sign for less than his QO on a long term deal and wants to stay, so there’s no reason for the Canucks to trade him unless it’s good value. Realize that in order to acquire good players in a trade you have to give up assets worthy of said player</div></div>
I don't know why people on here keep with these ideas of "likely to sign for less than his QO"
Because I'll call BS on that right now.
Name me one player who's done that.
DeBrusk has stated that because he want's out of BOS that bad and doesn't want his QO to get in the way. Even he knows that's holding teams back and he's not going to get that in FA.
But if BOS kept him, he'd demand it to hit the market.
The same is true with Boeser, he will demand his QO. You can count on that. So there is a reason for them to have him on the market, and frankly that is it.
No matter how you flip it, he's not worth 7.5
So you can keep on with that if you want, but that's not even remotely reasonable.
You are more than free to resign him at that rate. If you want. Make that bet. But most other teams are probably looking in the 5-6 range on him.
Furthermore, your insistence that it "has to be Marino" is just insane from the start. Teams, especially ones who are in the playoffs, aren't moving their top 4 Defense. How hard is that to realize?
Teams looking to ADD to win, aren't moving the pieces that have helped them WIN already.
That's why it's called ADDING.
You are more likely to get a hockey trade with maybe a pick or prospect. So a player they want to move out or swap for whatever reason. Like the PLD Laine trade last year.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Snowball</b></div><div>JD doesn’t hate BOS by any means,
Him and Butch don’t see eye to eye, which I get but Butch is you play what you deserve to play, names and contracts don’t matter (Usually) so when JD was down and struggling Butch kept moving him further down the lineup, limiting opportunities and healthy scratching him, JD got pissy about this and asked for a trade
JD only wants out of Boston cause he wants opportunity, behind Marsh and Hall he will never be a top 6 player ( which he is capable off all day long) he doesn’t get PP time in BOS (hardly ever until this week basically) JD is chasing a pay day that he thinks he deserves and is probably honestly capable of on other teams. That’s why he’s saying screw the QO, give me a year prove it deal on a decent top 6 and prepare to pay me, he’s willing to take a gamble on himself and honestly I’d be willing to bet he will thrive in a top 6 offensive team ( I really like a CHI idea for him, JD-Dach-Cat 2nd line would be a lot of fun to watch and a good opportunity for him)
With all this, it has absolutely no effect on BOS value, Butch will openly admit you get playing time based on production, and BOS biggest problem is log jamming young players with veteran signing’s not allowing up and comers ice time (A la Hall over JD last year and the unraveling of this whole situation)</div></div>
CHI isn't going to trade for him, I don't know how you can like that idea. It's not even possible. They are rebuilding.
Also, you basically said, he hates being in BOS without saying he hates being in BOS.
Honestly I doubt BOS would give him his QO, which is would demand, and the fact he's willing to take less of it elsewhere to get out is telling.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chopper02</b></div><div>I dont think so. He's showing incredible growth in all parts of his game and even in the SHL he was showing how relentless he can be on both ends of the ice. He didn't always get results, but the team he was on wasn't very good. He's one of the better offensive prospects Boston has had in some time.</div></div>
dude a PPG average at the CHL is basically the prereq for even getting a shot at the AHL level.
Don't worry I get it, the BOS prospect pool sucks, so does the team I follow.
But I'm just tempering this idea out that somehow an average late 1st rounder is somehow un moveable.
There is only 1 way in which those guys become unmovable. And that is when you say, we are looking to the future and don't want to make a move.
In other words, I want to trade but not give anything up.
I don't think you get Hertl on a trade like that.
Having said that, like I said, I think it's an over pay on him. 1st, 1st prospect, and 2nd... is a lot to pay on a rental. I don't think it's in BOS best interst.
But it's not because the prospect is unmovable. He's an average producing prospect at this point, if they are looking to bring in a major piece, I'd say they would have him as an option..