24 avr 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>I wouldn't draft him with a top 10 pick either. I would however draft (2) goalies in the later rounds and allow them time to develop.
All the goalies since Carey Price drafted in the 1st round are...
Jake Oettinger, Ilya Samsanov, Malcom Subban, Vasi, Jack Campbell, Mark Visentin, Chet Pickard, Thomas McCollum, Riku Helenius, Leland Irving, Varlomov, Jonathan Bernier....I mean Bernie was pretty good last year on a terrible team, but still...probably not worth a 1st round pick.
BUT an even more important part of this is......Starting goalies can be found in ANY round. If you go through all the teams and look to see where their starting goalie were drafted...you'd find that highest number of starting goalies were drafted in the 2nd round...then the 3rd round...THEN the 1st round. Starting goalies need time to develop.
the last goalie to win the Vezina AND the Cup...Tim Thomas drafted in the 9th round. The last goalie drafted in the 1st round pick to win a cup...over a decade ago...08/09 PIT Penguins.</div></div>
I believe in the last 20 years, 18 goalies have been selected in the 1st round and only 5 of those goalies have more then 10 NHL starts with the team that drafted them.
Notoriously, goalies take long time to develop also. Price (#5) didn't see ice for 5 years. Ward (#23) took 6 years to get a backup job.
Hawks should not take Askarov....the kid is 17 years old and for sure is at least 4 years or likely more from playing in the NHL. And the hit rate on drafting a goalie in the 1st round and becoming a full time starter in the league is around 33%....much better hit rate on a top 10 pick in every other position at roughly double.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Terry_AkiSauce</b></div><div>Don't tag me anymore, all you do is try and pick fights on here and it gets old fast. If you actually read what I said instead of instantly disagreeing with every post you'd see it says "one of the best defensive prospects in recent memory", the others being Hughes and Makar, Dahlin I guess but he made the jump right away so he was never really the prospect of a team.</div></div>
Tag you? You mean respond to you? Not sure what tagging is.
Clearly I don't disagree with every post I see nor even coming close to responding....I respond to posts I don't agree with and give a thumbs up to one's I really do. If you want to cry because that hurts your feelings, you can block my comments kid.
We'll see, we obviously know more about Hughes, Makar, Dahlin, Boquist, Dobson, Bouchard...just looking at the last 3 years. If Byram was drafted the year prior, it's hard to say where in that 2018 group he would have fell.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HatterTParty</b></div><div>Out of curiosity, why in the world do people keep saying this? I understand that he isn’t arbitration eligible, and I get that it’s one season, but are we really gonna act like this hasn’t happened before? Anyone remember when bickell had ONE good Playoff? Not SEASON. PLAYOFF!!!!! He 4x4 for that. While he probably had arbitration, he was at least a UFA.
All due respect to bickell, I will never ever look back at him fondly and will always take kubalik over him. I know that may be harsh, but I’m just saying, Stan bowman has made **** contract signings before, what’s to say he wouldn’t over pay kuba a little bit?</div></div>
Kubs has one season in the NHL, Bickell was a bad signing and comparing the two is kinda crazy but at least with Bicks he had like 6 or 7 seasons under his belt and he was a UFA which gives the player more negotiation power not less. With Kubs, there is no telling how he will show up....no way does he get what Cat did. Kubs 1 year deal was basically a tryout and he earned his right to extend the tryout...neither the Hawks (who won't run the risk after 68 games only) or Kubs agent will want to sign say a 5 year $5M deal. In 68 games he puts up 30 goals...on pace for 36 goals in a full season. Hawks will give him a 1 or 2 year deal as insurance while Kubs will bet he can repeat and get a much bigger agreement then he can now.