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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 14 heures
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>I wouldn't draft him with a top 10 pick either. I would however draft (2) goalies in the later rounds and allow them time to develop.

All the goalies since Carey Price drafted in the 1st round are...
Jake Oettinger, Ilya Samsanov, Malcom Subban, Vasi, Jack Campbell, Mark Visentin, Chet Pickard, Thomas McCollum, Riku Helenius, Leland Irving, Varlomov, Jonathan Bernier....I mean Bernie was pretty good last year on a terrible team, but still...probably not worth a 1st round pick.

BUT an even more important part of this is......Starting goalies can be found in ANY round. If you go through all the teams and look to see where their starting goalie were drafted...you'd find that highest number of starting goalies were drafted in the 2nd round...then the 3rd round...THEN the 1st round. Starting goalies need time to develop.

the last goalie to win the Vezina AND the Cup...Tim Thomas drafted in the 9th round. The last goalie drafted in the 1st round pick to win a cup...over a decade ago...08/09 PIT Penguins.</div></div>

I believe in the last 20 years, 18 goalies have been selected in the 1st round and only 5 of those goalies have more then 10 NHL starts with the team that drafted them.

Notoriously, goalies take long time to develop also. Price (#5) didn't see ice for 5 years. Ward (#23) took 6 years to get a backup job.

Hawks should not take Askarov....the kid is 17 years old and for sure is at least 4 years or likely more from playing in the NHL. And the hit rate on drafting a goalie in the 1st round and becoming a full time starter in the league is around 33%....much better hit rate on a top 10 pick in every other position at roughly double.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 12:26 pm
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 12:17 pm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>I agree.

The only type of forward that I would realistically consider trading Byram for is someone like Connor who is:

1) A proven top line scorer (i.e. 3 seasons of 30+ goals);
2) Young; and
3) Cost-controlled / good contract with term.

But even then it would take a lot of thinking as it's not an easy decision.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Terry_AkiSauce</b></div><div>I don't even think they'd do it for that. Value wise it makes sense but I really think Sakic is trying to hold onto these elite young players. Eichel is the only player I can think of that would actually be traded to Colorado with Byram as apart of the return</div></div>

Obviously Byram is not returning Connor or Eichel. Byram's ceiling is a 1st line but how many top 10 or top 10 picks don't actually hit their ceiling? Roughly 2/3rd's? Go back historically and see what they said about players versus what they've done today...Strome and Nylander are both good examples on the Hawks. Doesn't mean they are bad players but they haven't and likely won't hit the prospect ceiling they were labeled with. As such, no team in their right mind is going to trade a top 20 forward in the league with term for Byram regardless if defense is considered more valuable. However, which is what I think you meant, he could be part of a package that that grabs a Eichel type of player.

I like Byram but believe he is also overrated in what was a weaker draft year last year for D unlike the year prior where Byram IMO would have gone in the middle of the top 5 D guys.
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