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Armchair-GM
Hier à 16 h 36
Sujet:
My take on the Sens situation
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>Brannstrom is a NHL regular, for sure trade him if you don't have a spot.
Chychrun doesn't fit the team, needs to be traded so you can invest in a RHD
Crookshank >> Kelly, Sokolov
It's a risk but it could pay big time since you're not paying much (Reichel lost a lot of value and a 3rd round pick is not much for a player of Norris caliber). Tarasenko is also a guy who had 3 shoulder surgeries
Same. Might as well hope that he regains his form or LTIR him. Unless they can sign a big fish and need to move his salary</div></div>
Which is why the Hawks aren't going to sell low on Reichel. He's had a bad year despite looking much better since just getting called back up, but they aren't going to give up on him after his first NHL year and having trouble adjusting to the NHL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 16 h 31
Sujet:
Unrealistic wheel and deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Gabriel Landeskog is on pace for 0 ppg this season, so does that lower HIS value? Your citation of Zegras' figure this year is . . . well, since I value your knowledge and insight, I'll just say . . . uncharacteristic. He was averaging 1 point per game in the 5 games he played uninjured this year.
I completely understand why Korchinski is so valuable to Chicago, and I agree completely. It's extremely rare for a team to be able to draft what looks like a long-term #1LhD. And it's easier to find a first-line forward than it is to find a first-pairing defender.
My point is that Korchinski has a different value to different teams. You wouldn't trade him for Zegras or Caufield. Fine. But if he were on Anaheim's roster, we'd trade him for Caufield in a heartbeat, and if he were on Buffalo's books, they would trade him for Caufield or Zegras in a nanosecond. And had he been on Colorado's roster, the Avs would have traded him to Buffalo just as fast as they did Byram.</div></div>
But in fairness, again a 23 goal scorer and 60 to 65 point player (that's his two best seasons) isn't elite production or close to it.
In both cases the question is about upside and fit, which is obvious for Korch, but Zegras too because if it wasn't, and all that Zegras has on the table is what he's shown then bring in someone like Philip Kurashev for much cheaper but that's missing the point. So again it's all about their potential and Zegras has the abilities to be a 80 or even more point player which is what teams would value him as. The same with Korch, it's all based on potential and even moreso with a 19 year old.
Back to my original comment, Korch is more valuable to some teams including Chicago the same that Zegras is more valuable to some teams including Anaheim. That's why I said, 1 for 1 Chicago wouldn't do it but also said not a good move for Anaheim. I really don't think their values at this stage are that far off on paper and an argument can be made for either player depending on fit. Both great players with a lot of upside potential.
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Armchair-GM
Hier à 13 h 14
Sujet:
Unrealistic wheel and deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Well, I respectfully disagree. I think that you're conflating potential with performance: there's a world of difference between a highly-regarded young LhD with fewer than 70 NHL games under his belt and a proven top-line forward with two 60-points-plus seasons under his belt. Moreover, you're overestimating the market for highly-drafted LhDs: aside from Anaheim, teams like Buffalo, Colorado, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Montreal and the Rangers (to name just a few) wouldn't be interested in Korchinski due to their current roster makeup. And many other teams don't have, or won't part with, the kind of top-line forward you need to partner Connor Bedard. Finally, I think you ought to reconsider your opinion that "I wouldn't do Korchinski straight up for Zegras" in light of the Mittelstadt-for-Byram trade.</div></div>
Byram is not Korchinski, let's be honest. Byram has struggled playing on a top team and dealt with injuries, not to mention Korchinski was playing better coming out of the juniors than byram. Korchinski, is one of the most highly touted defensive prospects 21 and under in the league and the youngest defender in the league today. I respectfully think you are overestimating Zegras's value as well. 23 goals and 65 points last season and on pace for .33ppg this season is not exactly a rarity in the league and especially one that isn't good defensively...his production also isn't high enough to totally overlook his defensive shortcomings despite how flashy of a player he is either. To put this in perspective, you have a forward guy like Jason Dickinson on a bad team at a .46ppg rate while on pace for 23 goals with little PP time and being very good defensively as well leading the PK unit...that's on a crap team. So then the debate is he's only 23, and to that end I would argue you have to conflate potential with performance. And that's not wrong in either player's case, as potential is what a team is buying with a 19 year old and to a lesser degree a 23 year old. You named a few teams that may not be interested in a top LHD prospect/young player, but a top defensive young player prospect is always more valuable than a top 6 forward apples to apples unless he's a lock down top center which Zegras is not. I would still say many teams would view Korchinski as more valuable than Zegras depending on current roster and where they are at in competing or not and the Hawks are one of them and I'm 99% sure of that.
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Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 48
Sujet:
Unrealistic wheel and deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>What in the world were you thinking here?!? Anaheim doesn't need a LhD with Mintyukov, LaCombe and Zellweger all developing well behind Fowler and Vaakanainen and that package gets you a middle-6 winger, not Trevor Zegras.</div></div>
While I agree in terms of Anaheim's needs and this being a bad package for them this is also this very bad for both teams. That said, your last part of the sentence is incredibly incorrect. Korchinski is a very highly valued 19 year old defender in the NHL, not easy to do, and he is worth WAY more than a middle 6 winger not to mention throwing in a 2nd rounder. I wouldn't do Korchinski straight up for Zegras and doubt the Hawks or other teams in the hawk's position would either.
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Fauteuil - DG
mar. à 13 h 24
Sujet:
Pierre Luc Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>I disagree. He plays a very desirable style. I think he has the tools to be an important player no matter what line he ends up on. But I do think he has the tools to be a top 6 power forward, especially if he finds the right chemistry with another player.</div></div>
His concern is like this brother's, injuries and not knowing how to be physical while protecting himself in the pro leagues. Could he be a top 6 plug as his ceiling, yes, but we are thin at forward prospects and that would be the reason why in my opinion not because he has the projection as a top 6 impact player on a contending team. He's more a 3rd liner IMO which are not guys that I believe are irreplaceable. I'd be more then open to taking a young RHD player with upside and former 1st rounder plus a 2nd rounder in exchange for Dach who probably isn't worth much more than his draft position when he was taken in the 2nd round in 2021.
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Armchair-GM
mar. à 12 h 50
Sujet:
Whats it worth to you
Hawks wouldn't consider it as anything less than a significant cap dump meaning, Buffalo would have to offer quite a bit to gain their interest. I also don't think Buffalo is in the same mindset so they are probably better off keeping him.
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Fauteuil - DG
mar. à 11 h 47
Sujet:
Pierre Luc Dubois
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>That is probably fair for Dach, but I still think moving him would be a mistake.</div></div>
Dach is likely nothing more than a 3rd liner and even though we lack forward prospects, Dach does not have the tools to be a top 6 impact player. Hawks would take this in a heartbeat is my guess
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mar. à 11 h 43
Sujet:
Who says no
If the Hawks land #1 or #2, Hawks say no. At pick #3, Hawks strongly consider but Habs say no.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 19 h 49
Sujet:
Offseason hawks
Try Vlasic at $4.5m, Raddysh at $2M and Reichel at $1.5m
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 57
Sujet:
Old friends new faces UFA signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>I couldn't agree more about dmen being defense first. In fact, I prefer that. And, I absolutely agree that he could be an ideal long term fit. But we are talking about his AAV here. $6M x 7 (or however many) years is a lot for a young kid with only one full season under his belt, and it is also at the very top end of what defensive dmen generally get. There is no rush to lock him up. Being cautious and patient and wanting a larger sample size is not a bad way to go. It's not like he is going to price himself out of CHI.
Also, like any model there are useful and informative aspects. But Dom is an idiot, and I take everything he does or says with a grain of salt. I followed him for a while and then stopped because I disliked him. And then I re-followed him again thinking maybe I was being harsh, and he again said a lot of dumb stuff that made me once again not give a crap about anything he has to say.</div></div>
Well that's the risk both sides contemplate. $6M is the going rate for a lock down first line dman right now against the current cap. In a few years, it's going to be a bargain. But as you said, it can also backfire both ways because Vlasic has only one season under his belt. He can regress or he can get even a lot better. Chances are he will get better which is why if the Hawks can, they should gamble and lock him in at $5.5m or $6m. Generally the agent and player will gamble on themselves and expect him to be a top 4 lock down guy down the road and knowing the increase in cap year over year, they could probably land a $8m deal in a few years.
It's an interesting debate looking at both sides of the risk plus the team's perspective versus the player & agent. More than likely they land on a 2 to 3 year bridge because of all this at a $3M to $3.5M deal; 4 would push him to UFA status I believe which would be bad.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 45
Sujet:
Chicago got bedard so that means PIT gets Celebrini right
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>its guaranteed, the draft has not bee random or luck since the lotery system was implemented, the NHL CHOOSES who gets 1st OA just like they chose last year that CHI was gong to get 1st OA because the kane/toews era is over, and since the crosby/malkin er is coming to a close that means the NHL will GIVE 1st OA to PIT, PIT being in the top 10 right now give the nhl cover.</div></div>
Hey there tinfoil hat guy, let us know when the aliens are visiting and proof of the world being flat! :laugh
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 44
Sujet:
Chicago got bedard so that means PIT gets Celebrini right
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>Bedard is viewed as a much stronger #1 overall pick. McKenna in 2026 is expected to be the next can't miss prospect.</div></div>
Agree with this. Hagan and Celebrini are both very very good prospects but not at the level of Bedard and maybe McKenna
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 44
Sujet:
Chicago got bedard so that means PIT gets Celebrini right
5% chance as of now
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 41
Sujet:
Old friends new faces UFA signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>Yeah. But Dom and his model are dumb. So, I don't really care what the Athletic says. haha.
He certainly is a stud. And I have no worries about him having a fantastic career. But at a cap hit like that, the offense should be a lot more evident, and could put us in a tough spot in a few years if he turns out to just be a shutdown D without any untapped offense. It could be fine in the short term, but force KD to make the kind of tough decisions that he is trying to avoid down the road. Again, if they end up going that route, cool, I'm on board, but I don't think it is so cut and dry. It is risky, and KD is generally risk averse. Personally, I think it is a reasonable number and I wouldn't hesitate to pay him that, but I leave room for other variables and calculations I may not be aware of, or the unknowns. I am not the GM.</div></div>
Their model isn't dumb IMO, but to each their own. :)
Not necessarily. Having a defensive player playing defense first and foremost is generally preferred. Top line lock down defenseman are very difficult to find in the league and are the perfect pairing compliment to one that plays a more offensive game in an ideal world. We've seen this over the years be extremely successful with competing teams. Vlasic's point production isn't there but his transition game is as we see him doing well pushing the neutral zone and of course his d zone game is top notch. I think the hawks should try to lock him in at $5.5M or even $6M on a long term deal and against the cap next year and moving forward as it continues to rise, is a bargain for what he provides. However, I highly doubt his agent will motivate Vlasic to take that kind of number for 6 to 8 years as he knows with the cap going up, in 3 or 4 years after a bridge, Vlasic could get better.
If the Hawks grab Levshunov in the draft, which I also thinks plays a role, a first line of Levhsunov and Vlasic is the type of combination that can be a cup winning type of pairing. Korchinski on the 2nd line with Rinzel demonstrates this again with the reversal of stay at home versus points guy switching from left to right and right to left. It could be quite ideal long term.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
lun. à 13 h 30
Sujet:
2024
Hawks need RHD and offensive. It's either Levshunov, Demidov or Lindstrom if they are picking 2nd overall. They are already too stacked on LHD and established Vlasic and Korchinski as their top 2.
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Mock-Draft
lun. à 13 h 29
Sujet:
Crazy lottery
Very unlikely to see Buf and Calgary both jump obviously. Could see one of the lower teams jump up into the first, second or third pick though....odds are better for that to happen
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 9
Sujet:
Poll Is Kaapo worth a top 10 pick yes or no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>At no point in that sentence am I saying that’s his value. 🤨. Drury is still saying no. Fans on here are welcome to different opinions but it doesn’t change the fact that I’m telling you in the most “simp” form that it’s a no from drury.. and you still aren’t connecting dots. I haven’t argued a specific value for Kakko, because it’s moot. Regardless of what you or I or 31 GMs say his value is, Drury is well above it</div></div>
Nobody knows what Drury is thinking...NOBODY. Unless you have the batphone with him, which you clearly don't. His only job is to improve asset values to improve the team full stop. A top 10 pick or even a 1st rounder could easily be viewed by Drury as a more valuable asset to land an upgrade to Kaapo and if he is offered that, views it as such, he 100% does it. That's it, that's the only point worth us debating is what is the relative asset value of Kaapo as you, I or anyone else here has zero idea if Drury what Drury is actually thinking. Just stop pretending you have some insider scoup.
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Armchair-GM
lun. à 13 h 5
Sujet:
Lukas Reichel vs Justin Barron - Thoughts
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Habs_22_14_20</b></div><div>Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it !
I agree on everything with Reichel, hence why I think Kent Hughes could be interested, despite his down year
On the other hand, Justin Barron only played top 4 in MTL with either Mike Matheson or Kaiden Guhle. Justin Barron needs consistency to be a full time top 4 defenseman. You are more high on Rinzel than I am, but he isn’t close to be NHL ready. Rinzel shouldn’t be a reason to not acquire a Justin Barron type of dman. Murphy could always get traded if both Justin Barron & Sam Rinzel outplays him (only 2 years left on his contract after this season). Wouldn’t be surprised if his contract expires before Rinzel becomes NHL ready</div></div>
But the Hawks aren't looking to compete until at least 26/27 season. Rinzel has another year or two of development so his timetable aligns appropriately to murphy being gone in 2 more years. I think as <a href="/users/wojohawk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@wojohawk</a> mentioned, I could see the Hawks trading one of their many LHD prospects for Barron, but also I could see the Hawks easily grabbing Levshunov as their top 3 pick this year given that he has first line expectations whereas Rinzel has 2nd line. If the Hawks draft Levshunov, there just is no place for Barron other than to hedge their bets which again would be more reason Reichel is off the table given the shortage of top 6 prospects in the Hawks system.
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Armchair-GM
lun. à 12 h 10
Sujet:
Lukas Reichel vs Justin Barron - Thoughts
It's an interesting discussion but highly doubt Chicago seriously considers this. Reichel is in his first NHL season after only getting a 23 game taste at the end of last season where he looked very solid. He did not look good this season and was sent down to the AHL where he performed well again at almost a ppg same as last season. He was just brought up again in the last 4 games and has looked good.
Barron has more games in the NHL and seems to be struggling as well but over two seasons not one like Reichel. It's a bit splitting hairs, but Reichel's upside is a top 6 player whereas Barron's upside is a 3rd liner maybe 2nd liner at best. Add to it, the Hawks have Jones, Murphy (for now), plus a very strong prospect in Sam Rinzel who is projected as a top 4 RHD. I don't see Barron being a better prospect then Rinzel and I do see Reichel still being a definite top 9, but with time and patience a top 6. Hawks are VERY thin with top 6 prospects and for that reason coupled with the above, I don't see them biting on this.
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Armchair-GM
lun. à 12 h 0
Sujet:
Poll Is Kaapo worth a top 10 pick yes or no
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>You really aren’t good at reading,… I have never once said his value was more or even a 1st. I’ve said that drury has made it clear that this is his position not mine. I’ve given examples that you seem to be struggling with. There’s 0.01% chance of a Kakko trade. Now listen carefully, 31/32 GMs won’t pay that price tag and 1/32 GMs values him more than that price tag…. Capiche?!?!</div></div>
<strong>"If you want to make the argument for him saying yes to a top 10 pick them make an acgm with that being the offer"</strong>. - NYR1983
LMAO You listen carefully as you're not good at reading comprehension. Drury NEVER made anything clear...YOU ARE GUESSING! What is clear is Drury would be an idiot to pass up on a top 10 with 90% of the people responding saying he's worth nowhere near that. Why? A GM's job is asset management in terms of value. A top 10 pick is a better asset than Kaapo which Drury can in turn use to improve the team versus trading or keeping Kaapo so he would be a bad GM (I don't believe he is) to pass up on a top 10 pick...Capiche?!?!
Don't worry, it's never happening but stop pretending you know what Drury is thinking behind the scenes or making up that he's made anything clear. No GM shows their cards to the market and even when you think they are (which Drury never said), they are always working strategy.
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Armchair-GM
lun. à 11 h 51
Sujet:
Old friends new faces UFA signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>His contract situation is indeed a bit unusual. He's literally 1 NHL game away from being in consideration for Calder votes, but at the same time he's arbitration eligible. He's got quite a bit of leverage if he chooses to use it...in comparison to other prospects, BUT he also needs to generate more point production in order to get a larger contract. He'll probably sign a bridge deal if he wants to bet on himself. I 100% agree he's been outstanding for the Hawks. I just can't go the way of the Leafs and start handing out contracts for something that might be one day in the future. Maybe he goes for a Rasmus Sandin type contract, but a little less say 5 years $4M flat? Gets him more immediate dollars today vs the bridge, but he can still sign as a UFA somewhere when he's 28...prime UFA year.</div></div>
Yes, very hard to predict. We'd have to imagine there is a hometown discount as well in play. I know the Vlasic family in Wilmette and he is very close to his parents and sister and loves being home. My guess is, his agent will want to bet on him as a player being only 22 years old and go for a bridge deal of 3 years so they can cash in much bigger in 3 more seasons. I do think $3M to $4M is probably accurate for bridge. I don't think the Hawks will get him for 5 years for $4M, that number just seems to be way low regardless of point production. Top line shut down guys get at least $5.5M+ in the league today on longer deals, and with the cap jumping $5M this next year, that number is going to go up as we both know, historical contracts are used to negotiate based on a percentage of cap not a specific number.
While Alex doesn't have the resume yet, he does have the fact he's only 22 years of age going for him and showing he can not only hang in that role but thrive; upside could be huge and that is what his agent is going to push and the Hawks will need to pay if they can agree on a longer term deal. $5M+ for anything long term IMO, but my betting hat would say they do a bridge for 2 to 4 years (let's say 3) for $3M to $4M.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 10 h 31
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Old friends new faces UFA signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Garak</b></div><div>For a contract with such a small sample size to go off of, $6M could be too much. I would understand if they went that route, because I'm almost sure that as the team gets better his offense will follow. But if he turns out to just be a shutdown guy, I would rather not chance the overpayment. If Vlasic and his agent are looking for that on a long term deal, I think KD probably opts for the bridge deal at like $2.5-3.5M x 2 or 3 years. Maybe even go 4 years, walk him to free agency and then try to get him locked up before that contract expires.
AFP predicts him, for a long term deal, at $4.7M x 6, and, for a short term deal, $2.5M x 3 years. And they are usually pretty accurate, taking a lot of different variables into account, including, but not limited to, historical contract data, cap projections, stats, and development arcs.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>$6M is a bit much, but I'd expect $5 for 7 years or something around that.</div></div>
The Athletic player cards predict him at $5.5M or $6M deal (can't recall) on a long term deal so this isn't far off IMO either. In fact, I doubt he and his agent will take $5.5M or $6M on a long term and would rather bet on his ability and the cap increasing over the next few years. I doubt he is willing to sign even a 3 year bridge for under $3M, maybe $3.5M or $4M. Let's keep in mind, as a rookie playing on the first line against the toughest comp and ranks top 5 in the NHL in the defensive zone this year (as of looking at this a few weeks ago). Needless to say, he's clearly been a stud on a very bad team
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PerraultToBroadwaySoon</b></div><div>why does vlasic have an aav of 6 mil? i guess people just like to give any player with the last name vlasic an overpayment....</div></div>
It's clear you haven't been watching him, but he ranks top 5 in the NHL in the defensive zone this year as a rookie and that's on the top line against the toughest competition. He's a stud player.
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NYR1983</b></div><div>Precisely! Somehow other CHI fans understand that NYR wouldn’t move him regardless. Other NYR have pointed out that he wouldn’t be moved. You seem to be lost in a value argument while it has nothing to do with value. I don’t think you can comprehend that</div></div>
1 fan of Chicago said this, a couple NYR fans said this as expected. However, not the point, the point is everyone agrees he's not worth a top 10 pick, and over half believe not even a first rounder with fans of multiple teams chiming in that point. Not sure how you can't comprehend his value is not what you think it is.
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