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Forum: Armchair-GM20 mar à 1 h 35
Sujet: All positions top-10
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>How is Carlson not the number 1 RHD isn’t he the favorite to win the Norris this year? Why is Jones so low? He’s better then Ellis and might be better then McAvoy, though I wouldn’t push that. And it’s about time someone else gives Josi some love.

Also ROR should be the 10th center on the list. He’s better then couturier.</div></div>

I’m not gonna smack you in the face on Jones but he had a pretty crapped up year his RAPM and GAR/WAR was actually lower than Vince Dunn and I’m not going to put all of the blame on him because Werenski also took a part in this and just the overall slump of the team and goaltending at times not all Jones fault, but he definitely did not perform this year to the standards he did in previous years.
Forum: Armchair-GM 5 fév à 13 h 58
Forum: Armchair-GM 5 fév à 13 h 52
Sujet: Blues beef up the back end
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>If Yakupov put up 95 pts consistently across multiple seasons, even playing with McDavid, yes, I would class him as a good player. What’s weird about that? So you think points have different values or a goal from a “bad advanced stats player” is worth less than one with “good advanced stats”. A goals a goal. I want goal scorers on my team that actually produced 50 goals, not some kid who had great g/60 numbers, but never hit 50 because he didn’t get enough minutes or was injured or [insert excuse] or [insert excuse] or [insert excuse].



The problem is that you’re assuming I judge a player on one season like you though, which I don’t. Players have ups and downs in their careers, which makes it important to consider multiple seasons. I am not trying to oversimplify the game the way you are.</div></div>

We are talking about this year, and considering who Werenski had last year. This is the year that shows why he was overrated bud, but that's a classic comment "I use multiple years because he had more quality last year so i'm not wrong" why not look at this for a change. Dunn's teammate is f*ckin Bortuzzo, you know who Werenski linemate is f*ckin Seth Jones. Now how come is Dunn playing top lines and playing better with a worse linemate. Obviously Werenski is going to have more points because guess what he has Seth Jones on his line.
Forum: Armchair-GM 5 fév à 13 h 49
Sujet: Blues beef up the back end
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>None of those charts adjust for quality of possession/opposition. Dunn sits behind Gunnarsson and Boumeester in the depth chart and faces far weaker competition that Werenski, who is 1st pairing. Also, STL has a better forward corp than CLB, which helps. You’re also taking a 1 seasons sample size, when both Werenski and Dunn have been in the NHL longer than that.

I think advanced stats are useful, but you’re just abusing them to prove something that isn’t categorically wrong. If you’d take Dunn over Werenski, fine. That’s you’re decision. I disagree and I’m sure 99% of NHL fans would take Werenski over Dunn. You’re are of course welcome to your opinion though, based on whatever numbers you wish use.</div></div>

Talking about CF% when Dunn has a 54.3, and Werenski has a 47.8 lmao. You clearly have no understanding of hockey. Go watch the Angels play or something because you are now just being completely ignorant because you don't want to be wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GM 5 fév à 13 h 45
Sujet: Blues beef up the back end
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>None of those charts adjust for quality of possession/opposition. Dunn sits behind Gunnarsson and Boumeester in the depth chart and faces far weaker competition that Werenski, who is 1st pairing. Also, STL has a better forward corp than CLB, which helps. You’re also taking a 1 seasons sample size, when both Werenski and Dunn have been in the NHL longer than that.

I think advanced stats are useful, but you’re just abusing them to prove something that isn’t categorically wrong. If you’d take Dunn over Werenski, fine. That’s you’re decision. I disagree and I’m sure 99% of NHL fans would take Werenski over Dunn. You’re are of course welcome to your opinion though, based on whatever numbers you wish use.</div></div>

you want to know why he sits behind them? Because if you put Pietrangelo and Dunn together its a hot mess of only Offensive Defenseman. Jay Bouwmeester is only good with Parayko because Parayko can pick him up. Until you can actually understand what the Blues are doing go try to win a cup losing 16-20 games in a row again.
Forum: Armchair-GM 5 fév à 13 h 38
Sujet: Blues beef up the back end
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>I appreciate what you’re saying, but, at the end of the day, actual points trumps projected points. If it was close, I’d listen to the advanced stats, but it’s not close. You can say that Werenski has more minutes, but you’re assuming that Dunn would score more if given more minutes. Point production doesn’t increase linearly with TOI. Higher TOI = harder minutes, against tougher opponents, when you’re more fatigued. What’s the quality of Werenski’s minutes vs. Dunn? Moreover, you can say that Werenski gets more PP time than Dunn, but he also plays over 2 mins of PK time per game, whereas Dunn plays 0 mins. You going to consider that and how those extra minutes could drain Werenski’s energy so that he’s less effective offensively 5-on-5. No, of course not.

Again, i understand your position, but, if we’re going to play that game I have a bunch of charts that show Yamamoto is a better player than Draisaitl because p/60 says so say. If the point totals were even remotely close, I’d consider the advanced stats, but they’re not. Werenski is categorically a better player and no advanced stat chart will change that.



Lol... so goals and point totals are just for dumbies. “What’s the score dad? Forget the score, thats for simple people. Least check out CF%... because that’s how games are won and lost, right?”.

Vince Dunn &gt; Zach Werenski... hahahah... what a load of nonsense. Still waiting for that useless chart brah!</div></div>

Apparently Perron is better than Couturier because Perron has 53 Points and 20 Goals whereas Couturier has 46 points and 13 Goals. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA Cya Genius.
Forum: Armchair-GM 5 fév à 13 h 32
Sujet: Blues beef up the back end
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mytduxfan</b></div><div>I appreciate what you’re saying, but, at the end of the day, actual points trumps projected points. If it was close, I’d listen to the advanced stats, but it’s not close. You can say that Werenski has more minutes, but you’re assuming that Dunn would score more if given more minutes. Point production doesn’t increase linearly with TOI. Higher TOI = harder minutes, against tougher opponents, when you’re more fatigued. What’s the quality of Werenski’s minutes vs. Dunn? Moreover, you can say that Werenski gets more PP time than Dunn, but he also plays over 2 mins of PK time per game, whereas Dunn plays 0 mins. You going to consider that and how those extra minutes could drain Werenski’s energy so that he’s less effective offensively 5-on-5. No, of course not.

Again, i understand your position, but, if we’re going to play that game I have a bunch of charts that show Yamamoto is a better player than Draisaitl because p/60 says so say. If the point totals were even remotely close, I’d consider the advanced stats, but they’re not. Werenski is categorically a better player and no advanced stat chart will change that.



Lol... so goals and point totals are just for dumbies. “What’s the score dad? Forget the score, thats for simple people. Least check out CF%... because that’s how games are won and lost, right?”.

Vince Dunn &gt; Zach Werenski... hahahah... what a load of nonsense. Still waiting for that useless chart brah!</div></div>

Team game so let's say Yakupov plays with McDavid he gets 95 points and 80 of them are assists to McDavid. By your logic Yakupov is a Top 10 Forward in the League because of points. Because Points. Good luck with telling anyone that bud lmao. I can't even argue with you anymore you are so dumb. Seth Jones does that for Werenski bud. Anderson does that for Werenski bud. Almost every single top 6 forward in Columbus does that for Werenski bud. But nvm I will remember when some player goes from 5 points to 80 because he is now with McDavid and now he is a Top 10 Forward because of Points. Have fun bud.