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Tampa Bay Lightning signed Brandon Hagel (8 Years / $6,500,000 AAV)

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22 août 2023 à 9 h 34
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Brandon Hagel has signed a new contract with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
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SIGNÉ PAR: Julien BriseBois
Durée: 8 ans
Valeur: 52 000 000 $
Statut à l’échéance du contrat: UFA
% Cap Info-bulle: 7,78
Contrat signé avec: Logo de Lightning de Tampa BayLightning de Tampa Bay
Date de signature: 22 août 2023
Source: CapFriendly

Brandon Hagel a signé un contrat de 8 ans d'une valeur de 52 000 000 $ avec les Lightning de Tampa Bay, le 22 août 2023. Le contrat comporte un cap hit de 6 500 000 $.

SAISONClauseCap hitInfo-bulleAAV Info-bulleBonis de performanceInfo-bulleBonis de signatureInfo-bulleSalaire de baseInfo-bulleSalaire totalInfo-bulleSalaire mineuresInfo-bulle
2024-256 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $7 180 000 $1 820 000 $9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
2025-266 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $6 500 000 $2 500 000 $9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
2026-27NTC6 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $0 $6 750 000 $6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
2027-28NTC6 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $0 $5 450 000 $5 450 000 $5 450 000 $
2028-29M-NTC6 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $1 000 000 $4 450 000 $5 450 000 $5 450 000 $
2029-30M-NTC6 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $1 000 000 $4 450 000 $5 450 000 $5 450 000 $
2030-31M-NTC6 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $1 000 000 $4 450 000 $5 450 000 $5 450 000 $
2031-32M-NTC6 500 000 $6 500 000 $0 $1 000 000 $4 450 000 $5 450 000 $5 450 000 $
TOTAL52 000 000 $52 000 000 $0 $17 680 000 $34 320 000 $52 000 000 $52 000 000 $
DÉTAILS DE LA CLAUSE: En vigueur de 2026-27 à 2027-28: Clause de non-échange (NTC) | En vigueur de 2028-29 à 2031-32: Le joueur soumet une liste de 16 équipes où il refuse d'être échangé.
SOURCE: CapFriendly
22 août 2023 à 9 h 39
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Waaaaaay too small of a sample size to give Hagel a contract like this. A 2-year bridge deal around 4M would've been more appropriate.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 40
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The cap must be going up in leaps and bounds over the next decade because holy smokes that's an expensive middle sixer
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 41
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Brisebois: how big of a contract would you like?

Hagel:

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22 août 2023 à 9 h 42
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Geez that's steep but could be worth it. Fairly risky contract.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 42
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Quoting: brady_t12
Waaaaaay too small of a sample size to give Hagel a contract like this. A 2-year bridge deal around 4M would've been more appropriate.


I think that would have had UFA expiry though, so re-signing him afterwards would have been way more expensive and we’d risk losing him.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 42
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Holy cow I did not expect this.
22 août 2023 à 9 h 43
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Insane overpay. I think Hagel compliments stars well, but that doesn't mean you pay him like a good 2nd liner. He should've gotten a slightly better version of the Bunting deal imo.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 45
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I think that would have had UFA expiry though, so re-signing him afterwards would have been way more expensive and we’d risk losing him.


Yeah, but I'd rather lose Hagel after two years for nothing than overpay an additional 6 years. But I may be wrong. I just think he may be completely replaceable for cheaper.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 45
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Love this deal for Hagel and the TBL. Extremely underrated player. His 2-way game is amazing. Could you squeeze his expiry RFA year, SURE. But you risk so much more in the long run. Lock him up. It's not like TBL has any decent prospect coming up.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 46
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Quoting: BeterChiarelli
The cap must be going up in leaps and bounds over the next decade because holy smokes that's an expensive third liner


Hagel is not a third liner. He spent most of the year on the top line and in the playoffs his line was our best line, whether you call it a 2nd line or not. He had 30 goals and 64 points last year.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 48
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Tampa Bay has apparently become the new Islanders in signing everyone on their roster to massive extensions at probably overpayments.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 49
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The deal makes sense given Tampa's current roster sheet and the speculation on the cap increasing over the next couple of years. If he has another 30 goal, 60 point campaign again next year he's probably looking at a short deal to UFA and then the chance of losing him for Tampa increases. Sticker shock is a little high but feel that over the course of the deal he'd more or less be worth this AAV. Solid deal for a team that is willing to give out term to players they like
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 51
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Deals you make when you have no prospects on the horizon
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 52
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why does Hagel have to be the one to reset the market lmao

what logical comparable is there for this deal.
22 août 2023 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Insane overpay. I think Hagel compliments stars well, but that doesn't mean you pay him like a good 2nd liner. He should've gotten a slightly better version of the Bunting deal imo.


Hagel was producing on a ****ty hawks team on like line 2 where all our offensive power stopped (minus him of course)
22 août 2023 à 9 h 54
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Why do GMs just love giving 8 year deals so often now?? Hagel is good, but this is risky
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 55
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This seems like a deal that is probably fair value, but just doesn't really feel like it's fair value.
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22 août 2023 à 9 h 55
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
why does Hagel have to be the one to reset the market lmao

what logical comparable is there for this deal.


Are you kidding me? Can you imagine how pissed off Nylander is right now? He's asking for $4M more...per year... 11 Even Strength Points, an older player, and FAR FAR less defense.
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22 août 2023 à 10 h 0
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Overpay right now, but could be good if the small sample size ends up being the norm.

But, when you give up two 1sts for a guy, you have to find a way to convince yourself it was worth it.

Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Brisebois: how big of a contract would you like?

Hagel:

cover10.jpg


This is your version of “POP POP!”
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22 août 2023 à 10 h 0
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It's like the Nichushkin deal my Avs made. In other words, it's pretty much the going rate for the second tier level winger. Obviously everyone except Hagel would have liked to see less, but no real issues with it from my perspective.
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22 août 2023 à 10 h 5
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
why does Hagel have to be the one to reset the market lmao

what logical comparable is there for this deal.


Plenty of comps...we're on a website full of them.

RNH comes immediately to mind. 9.33 CH%. Hagel (if the cap is 87.5), would be at 7.4%, in which case, Hagel is a bargain.

As a BUF fan, if we still had Hagel and Montour, we would be a playoff team already.
22 août 2023 à 10 h 6
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I love seeing all these armchair GMs trash this deal. I'm pretty sure TBL knows a thing or 3 about winning Stanley Cups.
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22 août 2023 à 10 h 8
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Absolute steal for Tampa Bay. Hagel is significantly underrated. This contract is going to age VERY well. GO BOLTS!
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22 août 2023 à 10 h 13
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I think there's a bit of over reacting to this, maybe because it came out of nowhere.
I think it's a good contract for player and team.
I just don't know where the Bolts are going to get the cap space, especially since there's no Seabrook after this year...
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