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Forum: Toronto Maple Leafsmer. à 16 h 32
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion - The Treleafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>The thing is nobody ever expected him to be good at defense. He was brought in to create more offense on the blue line and to help with puck transition

As lets be honest do all goals need to come from forwards no

If we look at Toronto's Blue line production reg season last season (not including players who were traded out)

Liligren 6 goals
Reilly 4 goals
Giordano 4 goals
Brodie 2 goals
Timmins 2 goals
Holl 2 goals
McCabe 1 goal
Schenn 1 goal

Now lets compare to a top blue line like Carolina

Burns 18 goals
Skeji 18 goals
Slavin 7 goals
Chatfield 6 goals
Pesce 5 goals
Ghost 3 goals
De-Haan 2 goals


As for Klingberg he had 10 goals.

Would be nice to have some production on the back end and not just from the core 4 or forwards in general. We have enough defensive only guys to pair with him so as long as we use him properly got no worries. 1 year deal and if it works out like Barrie in EDM should have some good firepower to work with.


Now do I think Leafs still need to add one more Dman yes but its not in the purpose of pushing Klingberg out. Basically a main reason I want Bear as with him you can have Brodie-Klingberg become a third pair and it should work nicely

Rielly-Bear
McCabe-Liligren
Brodie-Klingberg</div></div>

I'm hoping we are flipping Klingberg for a D with term at deadline to be honest.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs12 sept. à 12 h 24
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion - The Treleafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Some of you probably already read this stuff, but I wanted to highlight <a href="https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/rethinking-timothy-liljegren/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">this </a> article.

I think its ideas around defensive classification are interesting enough that I might start using it.

TL;DR
D should be classified as:

Top-2
Bottom-4
And I'll add in another called 6-7 for the spare types that get 30 ish games a year

Also if you want to be sad at 9 in the morning, I'd suggest reading this <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/16gdber/translated_narrative_from_rodion_amirovs_father/?share_id=6qFocl0gP0ThYUHH80G86&amp;utm_content=1&amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;utm_name=ioscss&amp;utm_source=share&amp;utm_term=1" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">reddit post</a> from Amirov's father</div></div>

Oh
My
God

I'm still crying after reading
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs6 sept. à 18 h 51
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs 2023 2024 Offseason Discussion - Draft Day And Free Agency
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>For me no as when you read what SJS fans are saying about him he just seems like what we want McMann to be only worse defensively.

As rn the issue with the lineup other than Kampf, Jarnkrok, Marner, and Lafferty we dont got many defensive forwards. I would include Matthews if he PK'd and sure Knies did in NCAA but dont overwork the kid lul

But yea at least all 3 of those guys have done it in some capacity

Now if the Leafs PTO'D Heinen that would have made more sense to me as we saw 2 seasons ago that guy can play well and if you moved Jarnkrok bam there's the replacement

Either way seems like an odd choice</div></div>

I would have also liked Heinen.
I want to see what we have a few of our guys though.

I'm talking about McMann, Steeves and Abruzzese.

No secret but rather bury Reaves and see at least one of them get a shot.


Reaves is not contributor on contender in my eyes.


I also do not support trading away Jarnkrok, he will have chance to exceed expectations this year with the mix.

Move Lafferty and/or Timmins first, period.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs30 août à 17 h 26
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs30 août à 13 h 40
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs 2023 2024 Offseason Discussion - Draft Day And Free Agency
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Here's the thing size does not mean anything when it comes to that. Its attitude and playing to your strengths

A big Dman wont change a thing he needs to have the attitude to step in

Sandin chose to be physical to make up for his smaller size. Did a good job of it

But in the end size means nothing. Its how you play

Many big Dman in the NHL are bad they provide nothing to there teams Holl, Hakinpaa, etc. All just used for their size but do nothing else. Would rather have a smaller better Dman than those two.


Also if we look at our Dcore

Brodie 6'2
Liligren 6'1
Giordano 6'0
Rielly 6'1
Timmins 6'2
McCabe 6'1
Klingberg 6'3

Whose undersized? Nobody is under 6'0 here

In the end after some of the additions Tree made I think teams will be wary of touching our players lul as you got Domi and Bertuzzi who are pests and if they tick you off they dont got to fight you Reaves can handle that.</div></div>

Not saying your wrong but I think <a href="/users/onex" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@onex</a> has point.

Look at size of the D players on Vegas?
Or how about Tampa even? AVs players are comparable but could they be the exception?
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs30 août à 12 h 11
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs 2023 2024 Offseason Discussion - Draft Day And Free Agency
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LeafsFanForSomeReason</b></div><div>Really hope if the Leafs move Jarnkrok for cap we bring in Puljujarvi on a cheap deal as a replacement. Just seems like a no downside move that could pay off in a big way if we're lucky.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I kind of want them to move Jarnkrok to make room for Bear

And then if u really want someone just bring in Bailey on a league min deal.

As he has a history with JT and he should come cheaper add to the fact it allows us to add Bear to play with Rielly that could be perfect.

I feel whats best for JP is to go to Europe as man the kid had potential just never came to be</div></div>

Move Jarnkrok?
Seriously?

Dude played effectively, we got thinner and you want move him???

Move Lafferty and Timmins first, easy decision for me.

Puljujarvi to me I think is not NHLER anymore, he was in Carolina... should have been able to bounce back there above all else but he didn't.

I can get behind adding Bear, I don't know how realistic it is though.

Bailey can't keep anymore, low cost add... sure why not. May even clear waivers.
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs18 août à 19 h 14
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs 2023 2024 Offseason Discussion - Draft Day And Free Agency
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>All I was trying to say is that Matthews got a pretty favourable deal with the current contract and maybe this time around he would want a contract that empowered the organization to have a stronger roster going forward.

Now, that doesn't mean that I want Matthews to sign a chump change type deal because that isn't even a thing (thankfully), just an AAV/term that helps the roster get stronger than it currently and has been over the last couple of years.</div></div>

One thing that have I have gripe about when it comes to player salaries is taxes.

Taxes are driving too much of the conversation, cause in truth regardless of AAV its what the player is taking home in salary that is the determining factor.


I want the taxing to change, I think taxing should be the same for every player and this can be accomplished by centralizing the banking.

Have all salaries of players paid at HQ of the NHL after the teams transfer salary payment to the league.

Taxing should not be driving force on where a player goes, it should be the organization, city, fans etc...
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs17 août à 12 h 24
Sujet: Toronto Maple Leafs 2023 2024 Offseason Discussion - Draft Day And Free Agency
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Matthews is better than MacKinnon, sure I can find common ground with you on that but...is he light years better than MacKinnon?

Funny enough I'm about to make my point here now that I made a few days ago with my friends and heard the exact same point being made on the Overdrive show in Toronto on Wednesday evening about how guys like McDavid and MacKinnon sign these 8 year deals, but here in Toronto the narrative becomes "okay, I'll sign whatever 3-4-5 year deal but that's all I'm willing to do"

Why is it that other top players sign deals that favour their team but here in Toronto it's different because what? I don't get it.

Yeah the 12.7 (12.whatever number) is a bit of a dreamland number but signing Matthews to something in the 13 million range is reasonable. My gripe comes in at the term. I'm not sure why more us are not puzzled that our guys won't/can't commit to an 8 year deal but we see top guys on other teams doing this enough.</div></div>

I feel you can't be like players should get every penny they can and players should take a discount.

Discount would be nice but don't think it's automatic