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Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 20 h 9
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>I voted Fair ASSUMING Horvat extends with NY. Be crazy if he doesn't</div></div>
Hope he does for NYI sake. Otherwise terrible deal.
Stay tuned!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 19 h 58
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>it's more of a top prospect+1st ask. Later pick prospects, like 2nd rounders, that show they should have been picked earlier count, as long as they go into the top prospect category.</div></div>
Very reasonable. BUF fans are willing to throw out 3 1sts + 2nd like candy.
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 46
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SaviorX</b></div><div>of teams trying to get back into the playoffs, I kinda felt Buf would've been a better fit, and they have a ton of cap if they do want to sign him. (protected 1st, JJ Peterka (and flip him to Ott) and Devon Levi :P)</div></div>
BUF would never do that. Horvat isn't a need. JJP is a unicorn and Levi is considered the #1 G prospect. That's a lot to give up for a rental. Glad BUF didn't do that trade.
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 34
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KennyBoi</b></div><div>I'm giving Lou the benefit of the doubt that Horvat will be extended, because why else would you trade your #1 prospect that's a C unless you had insurance of an NHL ready top6 C coming back.
If Horvat isn't extended, Lou should be on the hot seat.</div></div>
If Horvat isn't extended, Lou should be fired.
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 17
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>Isles did it a few years back with Thomas Vanek - just on a much, much worse level.</div></div>
so much worse.
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 14
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KennyBoi</b></div><div>Finally the Horvat to BOS trades can stop.
Think Lou overpaid, unless Horvat gets extended which I imagine is the case here.</div></div>
Better be the case. And if Bo would rather test UFA?
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 12
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MadLin27</b></div><div>Capfriendly is absolutely off their rocker on this one.
NYI wins this deal easy. Terrible return for Horvat.</div></div>
Does NYI have a deal with Bo?
They kinda suck right now. SO a lot to pay for a rental.
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 11
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div><div class="tweet"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">imagine the Islanders can't get into a playoff spot, flip Bo Horvat and get a better return</p>— Omar (@TicTacTOmar) <a href="https://twitter.com/TicTacTOmar/status/1620199768692776960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">January 30, 2023</a></blockquote>
</div>
Are we about to see the creation of 6D chess</div></div>
MTL did that with Scandella. On a lesser level.
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 9
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pete</b></div><div>Why? NYI has no issue at center. What's the plan? Why has Raty to leave? Not happy about this. :(</div></div>
I have no idea what to make of this trade.
If Bo doesn't sign, it seems crazy.
Forum:
NHL Trades
lun. à 19 h 8
Sujet:
(VAN/NYI) - Horvat for Beauvillier, Räty, conditional 1st
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Levig01</b></div><div>Holy the eastern conference is stacked now. Idk who will get a WC spot</div></div>
BUF and?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 18 h 57
Sujet:
What if he wont sign
If he doesn't sign, BUF should give Gretzky like value, a 9 time Hart Trophy winner, got. LOL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 17 h 25
Sujet:
Sharks reported ask for Timo
Finally a decently fair offer.
I want to know a list of players that got more than 2 1sts that is around Meier's value. A 1st + Kulich is way more than fair.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 17 h 16
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>Could you tell me which players got 2 1sts?
I'm struggling to come up with players that got that back.
Eichel <> Tuch, Krebs, 1st
ROR <> Tage, 1st</div></div>
Basically no one gets 2 1sts back, let alone 3. Especially Ws. Especially players without contracts,
Can't wait for someone to provide me with an example tho of this happening.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 17 h 9
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>Could you tell me which players got 2 1sts?
I'm struggling to come up with players that got that back.
Eichel <> Tuch, Krebs, 1st
ROR <> Tage, 1st</div></div>
Duchene? 2 1sts from CBJ.
And?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 59
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>I started talking to you saying that Meier is worth at least 2 1sts, not 3 (dropping Mittelstadt, assuming he's worth a 1st).</div></div>
Could you tell me which players got 2 1sts?
I'm struggling to come up with players that got that back.
Eichel <> Tuch, Krebs, 1st
ROR <> Tage, 1st
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 56
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>That's not the point. They were bad last year, they're bad this year, and they will be bad next year with or without Meier - they're in a rebuild, of course they're gonna be bad.
The point I was trying to make was you said that they *had* to move Meier because their cap situation was desperate - which it clearly isn't. They can fit his QO on next year's team and shop him as a true rental at the deadline if they don't get their price met this year. Acting like they should take a lesser return than what they're aiming for because they can't fit his cap hit is not reading the situation correctly - they can easily do it, and if you ("you" being any GM interested in him) aren't interested in paying their price, then they're gonna hold on to him.</div></div>
fair enough. you can fit him, but it won't be easy.
And finding a trading partner with his contract won't be easy.
And because that won't be easy, I doubt you will be getting an exorbitant amount back for him. Most teams can't fit him without making sacrifices back.
I prefaced your return for Burns. And VGK's for Patches.
This is the league.
Meier should get a decent amount back, but Grier is a rookie GM in a very tough market.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 44
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>Tell me where I said Meier was worth 2 1st round picks better than what Kane got, I do not understand your standpoint.</div></div>
You've been reasonable. Sorry responding to the offer here more than what you said. My bad.
Still, BUF has no reason to pay more for Meier than what SJ paid for Kane. We just don't need to.
We're 1st in the league in GF.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 43
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div><img class="for_img" src="https://i.imgur.com/Qsu0gEI.png" alt="Qsu0gEI.png">
22 man roster built with Meier QO'd at $10M, Noah Gregor retained at $1M, and guys they currently have under contract called up to fill in the roster holes. $2M leftover to find a suitable 1B goalie to tandem with Kahkonen. They're not in the *best* cap situation but this isn't like the Fiala situation, where Minnesota would have to dump contracts to be able to afford re-signing him. They have the room to keep Meier if no one meets their price.</div></div>
Okay, but that is not good. That is a team in trouble.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 29
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>Meier is better and Kane's off-ice + locker room cancer issues completely dwarfs Meier's $10m QO</div></div>
Agree to disagree.
Meier may be slightly better. Not 2 1st round picks better,
Then factor in cap space around the league?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 25
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>worldwidesensei</b></div><div>Why?
Same age.
Scoring at roughly the same pace ( in terms of league standards)
Same amount of money.
Both physical power forwards.
Kane had off-ice issues.
Meier has contract issues.
What's so different?</div></div>
When Kane was traded 20G 20A
Meier currently 28G 20A
Is 8 goals worth 2 more 1sts ?
Not to me.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 20
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>Kane trade is a really bad comp for a Meier trade</div></div>
Why?
Same age.
Scoring at roughly the same pace ( in terms of league standards)
Same amount of money.
Both physical power forwards.
Kane had off-ice issues.
Meier has contract issues.
What's so different?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 18
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>To be fair, when you're talking about replacing names like Nick Bonino, Michael Eyssimont, Jonah Gadjovich, and Evgeny Svechnikov, you probably shouldn't be paying much more than $857K to replace them. The only names that they probably need to spend more than the league minimum to replace/re-sign would be Noah Gregor & James Reimer - the other 4 should all just be replaced by guys that are currently playing on their ELCs in the AHL.</div></div>
The cheapest player in the league costs $733K. SJ needs to make moves for their cap. To deny that is denying reality.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 14
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>They can fit a $9m extension for Meier, people have done the ACGMs to show it. Yeah I agree that BUF would be better off targeting something other than more offense. It's necessary for SJ to want to trade away Meier. Your offers are not enough for SJ unless something comes out that lowers his trade value more</div></div>
His QO is $10mm. Why are people ignoring this?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 9
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
We gave SJS Kane <> 2nd + 4th + O'Regan.
When he re-signed, BUF got a 1st instead of a 2nd.
Seems fair.
I'd pay more, because I think BUF got hosed on that deal. But 2 1sts more? No
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 4
Sujet:
Meier price for each team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>poeticentropy</b></div><div>Yes, these offers assume Timo extends with his destination. No SJ is not desperate, not sure why you believe that. The most likely scenario is that SJ will resign Meier and continue their quest for mediocrity
The point I was making is it's not as detrimental to Buffalo to throw in another useful asset as they have a larger pipeline and can afford to easier.
Meier definitely isn't going to BUF if they are actually that stingy.</div></div>
$6mm for 7 players doesn't equal desperate? How many players cost an average of $857K?
The point I'm making is, BUF is the highest scoring team in the league. We don't need more Fs. Would we like Meier? Sure, but we have no reason to just "throw in" more than is necessary.
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