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Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 5 h 10
Sujet:
Off-season
So a 3rd pairing D-man, in Borgen, is worth a 1st,2nd and 3rd, while a 2nd pairing in Jokiharju is worth a 3rd and a 4th?
Forum:
NHL Trades
16 mars à 12 h 2
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>Stop trying to associate your handedness with your stick grip.
They are not the same and have nothing to do with what you are talking about.
FFS that is sign one you never picked up a stick.</div></div>
And still not learning...one single thing....I hope your college education is serving you well... but it's fun watching you think you know who I am. LOL.
And as I said....don't take my word for it...Listen to Dahlin. But you just seem ignorant and only you know what you're talking about, which is...let's be honest....hilarious.
It's very simple to just look around the NHL and see more LHD than RHD. Why? Because right-handed people generally, not always, play on the left.
Why are RHD so coveted? You make it sound like I'm from another planet. Again, simple genetics.
But, please do share what team you played for in the NCAA and what side you played on....would be fun to watch...
Forum:
NHL Trades
16 mars à 2 h 45
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>people grab a stick like they grab a show shovel.
And it doesn't matter if you are right or left handed in how you grab it.
Some people feel they can use the stick better with their dominate hand on the bottom, others on the top.
Why you think your "handed" has anything to do with your stick hand tells me you never played.
I know plenty of people who held a stick "backwards" as you would have it.
Only 10% of the planet is left handed. The people holding left in the NHL are not from such a small group but the rights are from the 90% group. There would be a huge disparity in talent if that was true.
They are right handed people holding the stick left, and left handed people who hold the stick right.
It's about comfort and what "feels" natural to you. Has absolutely F all to do with what your handed is.
I don't know why you would even argue this. Anyone who ever played even pewee hockey knows this.</div></div>
You must have been a real pleasure to play with .
Since you're guessing my life, let's see....
I'm guessing you told many teammates, "THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO PLAY THE GAME, I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG. THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFITS TO THE WAY YOU PLAY"
Must have been a treat to have as a teammate. For someone who played team sports at the collegiate level, you didn't learn much both on the ice or off of it on how to be a team player...and other basic social skills. Like...accepting other ways, and understanding that there is more than one way to skin a cat. And, never assume things.
But, here we are.
Forum:
NHL Trades
16 mars à 2 h 16
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyScotty</b></div><div>That is not true in America where most kids play other sports first and develop a swing from the dominant side with their dominant hand being the "power" and the non-dominant hand being the "direction". Look at USA RH defenders talent level compared to Canada. This topic has been covered in detail by prominent hockey people several times over.</div></div>
It is interesting the disparities around the world.
I'm ambidextrous. I write right-handed. Play pool left-handed. Play guitar left-handed. Played soccer on the Left-wing, left-mid, left D, since I was stronger than most there. And play hockey, yes, I play hockey usually with a right-handed stick. But I have no problem switch to a left-handed stick. And I'm fine playing on either side, and on my off-hand.
And I never expect someone here to take my word for anything here....
Which is why I pointed to one of the best D-men in the world.
However, some people just wanna shove their fingers in their ears and not listen....
Forum:
NHL Trades
15 mars à 22 h 50
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>you lost me at point number 1 where if you had ever picked up a hockey stick you would know your "handed" has nothing to do with your hockey "handed".
So it doesn't matter how many people are born "left" or "right" handed. It has everything to do with how you feel holding a stick. Which is what this conversation is about.
That is really all there is to be said about your comment above.
You are over here talking but have never picked up a stick in your life and it shows.</div></div>
Umm, grew up in Buffalo. I have played plenty of hockey in my life, so please don't tell me about my own life.
I never said ALL right-handed people play on the left, but a vast number of people do.
Which now goes to prove my point. Not ALL people are the same. SOME people can play on their off-hand and feel more comfortable in doing so. Not everyone is the same.
Forum:
NHL Trades
15 mars à 6 h 11
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>I played NCAA level.
Not only is the curve of your stick on the inside which messes up your passing but it offers no advantage.
This is hockey 101 and why very few players play their off side and those who do are not better at it than they are on their natural side.
While people do that in organizations where they don't have the bodies to find people, in more complex levels of hockey they don't have that issue.
</div></div>
1. There are more people who are right-handed than left-handed, so naturally there are more LHD defensemen. That's just simple genetics.
2. Plenty of organizations have won the Cup with more LHD than RHD.
3. There are plenty of advantages to playing on your off-hand. Here, straight from Dahlin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGaFWCMR7pY
So, no, not everything you said is true. Not even close. Some players prefer playing on their off-hand.
I mean, unless because of your NCAA background, your opinion (not fact) is more substantial than a #1 overall pick and Norris-vote getter...
Forum:
NHL Trades
14 mars à 18 h 51
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>You said it matters for some players and for others it doesn't.
That's not true, it matters for everyone. It fundamentally changes the way you have to play. It affects strategy and teammates as well.
You can work around it and some players handle it better than others, I'm only saying it does make a difference, even with Dahlin.</div></div>
Okay, well now I feel like we're just playing a semantics game. Perhaps "matters" was the wrong choice of wording, we live in a physical world (I assume), so yes everything matters.
But, Dahlin prefers playing on the right and excels at it. There's pros and cons to everything.
If Dahlin prefers playing on the right, and excels at it, why does it matter if he plays there?
Now this whole conversation is getting out of hand, no pun intended. People here, and you can scroll above, think that because they played hockey in the NCAA, that NHL players cannot play on their off-hand and succeed. It's simply not true. Dahlin isn't the first and he won't be the last. Plenty of teams have won the Cup with more LHDs than RHDs.
Forum:
NHL Trades
14 mars à 17 h 49
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>I wasn't speaking about Dahlin specifically, I was responding to why handedness actually does matter in many aspects.
/quote]
</div></div>
And that's why I said you're missing the point.
This whole thread is about the Buffalo Sabres and their apparent overwhelming amount of LHDs. Only one is playing on his off-hand: Dahlin.
Byram (LHD)- Dahlin (LHD)
Power (LHD)- Jokiharju (RHD)
Bryson (LHD)- Clifton (RHD)
Forum:
NHL Trades
14 mars à 5 h 33
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>There's nothing stopping a defender from being effective on his off side, but it does have key effects on how that defenseman can play.
The movement of the puck around the boards on the forehand, is significantly stronger, faster, and more accurate than on the backhand.
When defending, you have better reach to force the puck to the outside instead of extending across your body.
When making a pass up ice it gives you more options as you are open toward the middle of the ice as well as having the boards.
Those are just a few examples of why defenders of certain handedness are preferred.</div></div>
And you also seem to be completely missing the point.
Dahlin was literally preferred over ever other player in his draft class. He was the consensus #1 overall pick...He got there by playing on the right side.
Last year, he finished 8th in the league in Norris votes. There were 4 RHD who finished ahead of him in voting. So, sure maybe you prefer 4 RHDs over Dahlin...Either way, the list of players you would prefer over Dahlin is really, really short.
And, once again, Dahlin himself has said he prefers playing on the right. I love people on some hockey board telling literally one of the best defenseman in the game where he should be playing.
Forum:
NHL Trades
14 mars à 4 h 19
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>It's a thing and that is why people value it. Saying people put too much value in scoring goals is the same energy. It matters. A LOT.
This should be common sense here but sadly many have never touched a puck or dont understand what they are watching</div></div>
Clearly we're still working with a small sample size, but after 46 5v5 mins together:
Byram-Dahlin 5GF 1 GA
I'd say Dahlin is doing just fine playing on the right...
Forum:
NHL Trades
13 mars à 5 h 37
Sujet:
(SJS/VGK) - Hertl, 2025 3rd (SJS), 2027 3rd (SJS) for Edstrom, 2025 1st (VGK)
I love people on here ripping on Vegas...one of the best, if not the best, organizations in the league since their creation.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 mars à 23 h 8
Sujet:
BIg Buffalo Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Alright, let's hear your take. How are Swayman and UPL the same, state your evidence. I'll grab my popcorn.</div></div>
[quote=TM<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>I got my popcorn ready already also. :)</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>
They have a stat called GSaX / 60, which adjusts for the number of difficult shots you face. For goalies with over 15 starts, Ullmark is 4th, Swayman 7th, UPL 27th, Levi 37th.</div></div>
Since Dec. 30th 2023:
UPL .931 sv% (1st), 1.90 GAA (1st), GSAA/60 (3rd)
Swayman .915 (13th), 2.69 (19th), GSAA/60 (12th)
How's that popcorn? Oh, and to recap. BUF has kept the better goalie. BUF has kept the 2nd round pick. And BUF swapped Mitts for Byram...
Forum:
NHL Trades
9 mars à 22 h 7
Sujet:
(SJS/VGK) - Hertl, 2025 3rd (SJS), 2027 3rd (SJS) for Edstrom, 2025 1st (VGK)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>
3.) You don't give up a 1st and a solid prospect for a bad contract, not even with two 3rds coming back.</div></div>
The SC defending Champs do. 2 times in the SC team. 3 times in the WCF team. In their 6 year history. But sure, you know best :)
Forum:
NHL Trades
8 mars à 21 h 16
Sujet:
(SJS/VGK) - Hertl, 2025 3rd (SJS), 2027 3rd (SJS) for Edstrom, 2025 1st (VGK)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CSStrowbridge</b></div><div>Why? He has no reason to put his body as risk for a paycheck.
</div></div>
Umm. The Stanley Cup. It's why players play the game.
Forum:
NHL Trades
8 mars à 3 h 54
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Andy_Dick</b></div><div>It's a thing and that is why people value it. Saying people put too much value in scoring goals is the same energy. It matters. A LOT.
This should be common sense here but sadly many have never touched a puck or dont understand what they are watching</div></div>
It matters for some players and for others it doesn't. Not everyone is the same. Dahlin played on the right side in Sweden, which led to him being the consensus #1 pick in the draft. He played on the right side all last season and was a Norris candidate all year, until he got injured late in the season. Dahlin himself said he prefers playing on the right side. He can see the ice better there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 3 h 56
Sujet:
Just spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Idk what to tell ya?
NyR isn’t gonna move Kakko anyways (most likely)
And I’m not gonna agree with you that he’s a good target
There’s plenty of others out there i like better anyways</div></div>
Don't need to tell me anything. Just wouldn't be surprised to see a trade for Kakko. I'm not saying it's a for sure done deal, it obviously isn't.
As I labeled it, "just spitballing"
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 2 h 48
Sujet:
Just spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>I don’t think Kakko ever gets much better than he is now though, so how much is he really gonna help us?
Just don’t think he’s the right target
There’s other guys out there that can help- example:
Trenin from NSH is a UFA after the season & is a big tough winger (who can also plate Center)
And we wouldn’t have to give up a good prospect to get him</div></div>
We need more than 1 player....We're losing a ton of Fs with no one that can immediately step in.
Mitts - out
Ox, Girgs, Olofsson - out soon
Robinson - potentially out
We need experienced F players and a lot of them. Plus don't really have much money to mess around with in FA.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 2 h 44
Sujet:
Just spitballing
And KA loves them 2019 draftees.....
Byram, Cozens, Krebs, Johnson.....Kakko?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 2 h 40
Sujet:
Just spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>I doubt NyR moves him
He’s a decent player they likely don’t wanna give up on yet
Plus, they could get Girgs &/or Okposo from us for picks
So they don’t really have a reason to include him- not currently anyways- maybe in the offseason after another failed playoff run?
I don’t think he’s a guy the Sabres should target though
Idk, maybe it’s bc i don’t think he ever comes close to living up to his potential when drafted
I like our young talent & the way we’ve been developing these kids lately
I’d rather keep Ostlund than take on a bit of a reclamation project i guess</div></div>
When does Ostlund, if ever, start out-producing Kakko though? If he reaches his potential, maybe in 2027-2028?
KA is showing he is no longer in patience mode. Kakko helps now and in the future.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 2 h 34
Sujet:
Just spitballing
6'2 206lb wingers don't grow on trees.
He certainly hasn't lived up to his potential yet. Key word being yet.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 2 h 32
Sujet:
Just spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Kakko isn't good, he doesn't help at all</div></div>
He just turned 23. His best years are just about to begin. Anyway, I see him as a KA target.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 2 h 30
Sujet:
Just spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Rather just keep Ostlund, the rest of the trade is overkill for Kakko straight up</div></div>
Ostlund is probably at least 2 years away from an NHL roster and then probably at least 2 more years before he is actually contributing, more than being detrimental.
Kakko helps sooner.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mars à 2 h 28
Sujet:
Just spitballing
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AntiAnalytics</b></div><div>Why do u want Kakko??
He is what he is- a decent 2way middle6 player
I’d rather hang on to Ostlund & see what he becomes
Okposo & Girgs (and EJ & Olofsson) can be shipped out to whoever will give us the best draft picks</div></div>
Not sure that I do want him. Just he's in the rumor-ville.
I think Ostlund's potential is probably higher.
BUT, BUF wants/needs grit and size. Something Kakko has and Ostlund does not.
I could see Kakko being a target for KA. Just seeing what a potential trade could look like...
Forum:
NHL Trades
6 mars à 23 h 58
Sujet:
(CGY/PHI/VGK) - Hanifin for for Miromanov, 2024 5th (VGK), 2025 1st (VGK), 2025 3rd (VGK)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>If I'm CGY I don't do anything without Hague or Edstrom. Disappointing return.</div></div>
Letting Gaudreau go for nothing was a much better move. I agree.
At some point, you have to take the best offer on the table.
Forum:
NHL Trades
6 mars à 21 h 8
Sujet:
(COL/BUF) - Byram for Mittelstadt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dahlin_On_Me</b></div><div>Like Mitts and will miss him. It will be interesting to see how he does on a better team. As far as Byram, haven’t seen him play but since he’s a 4th overall I’d guess he’s an upgrade for Sabres D. Concerning about his injury history however.
Looks good for Av’s at the moment but I think this deal will age well for the Sabres especially if Mitts isn’t resigned. Probably will he’s class.
For those on about the LH / RH D stuff, it’s not that big of a deal and if you can’t play both side you probably shouldn’t be playing in the NHL. Im rubbish but as a LH Defender myself I actually prefer to play in the Right. It’s better for one timers and poke checks. It’s a little harder on breakouts when you need to thread the needle on the backhand (only if there is o time and room) to your forwards. A pro should be able to manage.</div></div>
Yea, exactly. People are putting way too much emphasis on whether players are left or right-handed. Dahlin plays all over the ice. Power can too. The way more important thing is how defensive partners play together.
I see a lot of people saying "He's stuck behind Dahlin and Power". What if Power-Dahlin are your top pairing and Byram is on your second pairing with Clifton/Jokiharju/Ryan Johnson.
Either way lots of options.
I think critiquing the trade on handed-ness is just lazy.
Defense wins championships and BUF now has 6 former 1st rounder in:
Dahlin (#1)
Power (#1)
Byram (#4)
Jokiharju (#29)
Johnson (#31)
Samuelsson (#32)
That's a lot of young talent on D.
(and yes, please feel free to tell me that Samuelsson was actually a 2nd rounder)
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