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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #10: The Trade Timer Ticks

12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 3
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Quoting: SnakeDelilah
maccelli looks okay? not super bullish on wingers that can't score tho especially 5-on-5


Maccelli is only 22 and is at 1.97 pts per 60 at 5 on 5 and his primary assist rate is solid. Also has good underlying numbers. He’ll likely be a 15-20 G 45-50 A two way winger in his prime. Pretty good for a 4th rd pick.
12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 4
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
As long as they commit to signing there and not walking once they hit UFA status. That's a nice top 6 though.


By the time their young guys are real impact players Schmaltz will be long gone.
12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 8
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Quoting: SnakeDelilah
past up shane wright for logan cooley?

fwiw I really didn't mind this decision from the Yotes.
Would've wanted the Devils to take Cooley (or Wright) ahead of Nemec.
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12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 9
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Quoting: Brian2016
By the time their young guys are real impact players Schmaltz will be long gone.


Schmaltz is a 2nd line complementary winger. Pretty sure they’ll find a way to replace him.
12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 10
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
That's going to be very good for both teams, Chychrun and Clarke have about the same ceiling ( 1D ) so LA gets an immediate upgrade on Clarke without losing on potential and Arizona most likely gets a bunch of futures/assets to help their incoming core


Chychrun is a ufa in 2 years. If he was signed for 4+ years at this AAV , I’d agree, amazing trade. But I don’t like giving up a top prospect when the guy you’re getting is close to ufa
12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 12
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Quoting: csick
Chychrun is a ufa in 2 years. If he was signed for 4+ years at this AAV , I’d agree, amazing trade. But I don’t like giving up a top prospect when the guy you’re getting is close to ufa


He's actually UFA in 3 more seasons. Have this 1 and 2 more seasons.
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12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 13
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
He's actually UFA in 3 more seasons. Have this 1 and 2 more seasons.


2.5 still terrible
12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 14
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Quoting: csick
Chychrun is a ufa in 2 years. If he was signed for 4+ years at this AAV , I’d agree, amazing trade. But I don’t like giving up a top prospect when the guy you’re getting is close to ufa


Him being a UFA in 2 years shouldn't affect much, that's still 2 years of amazing contract value and then LA's would be foolish not to extend him ( they'll certainly be able too, Kopitar's deal expires a year before )
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12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 16
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fwiw I really didn't mind this decision from the Yotes.
Would've wanted the Devils to take Cooley (or Wright) ahead of Nemec.


nah nemec was the right pick for nj, gonna be a great addition for our defense once graves and sevo are gone next season
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12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 25
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nah nemec was the right pick for nj, gonna be a great addition for our defense once graves and sevo are gone next season

Yeah maybe, hard to go wrong at #2 when the Habs already selected the obvious bust at #1.

Personally I'd want Nemec to cook in the AHL for another year.
Did wonders for Hughes to get two years of development before joining the team, and Nemec's ELC gets to slide another year to. That could be huge for the Devils in 2024 - 2027.
Besides, one of Walsh, Okhotiuk or Bahl should be more than ready to cover on the third pair for one season, they are all pretty much ready for the NHL right now.
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12 févr. 2023 à 17 h 26
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nah nemec was the right pick for nj, gonna be a great addition for our defense once graves and sevo are gone next season


Gonna be tough to integrate both Nemec and Hughes at the same time. I think the former is 2 years away.
12 févr. 2023 à 18 h 10
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Blowout Sunday. Could be a precursor for something else…
12 févr. 2023 à 18 h 13
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What was the earliest a top 3 pick moved on from the go team
12 févr. 2023 à 18 h 28
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What was the earliest a top 3 pick moved on from the go team


What do you mean by this question?
12 févr. 2023 à 18 h 30
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What do you mean by this question?


lets me rephrase because i messed up

who was a top 3 pick that left the team he was picked from the earliest

like for example. after the capitals drafted forsberg later that day he was traded. something like that but with a top three pick. or didnt resign etc
12 févr. 2023 à 18 h 32
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Quoting: capsfan2121
lets me rephrase because i messed up

who was a top 3 pick that left the team he was picked from the earliest

like for example. after the capitals drafted forsberg later that day he was traded. something like that but with a top three pick. or didnt resign etc


Eric Lindros, Bryan Berard never played a game for their team
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12 févr. 2023 à 18 h 49
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Sitting here thinking that if the Kings have indeed acquired Chychrun and Vejmelka (very shrewd move), then I reckon that means that both the Kings and Rangers will have began and completed their rebuilds which began essentially after Edmonton and Toronto drafted their franchise centers.

It's not a good feeling.
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12 févr. 2023 à 19 h 18
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Two names I would not be surprised to see go to Arizona: Fa gemo and Bjornfot. Both could play on their roster right now and both lose waiver-exemption next year.
12 févr. 2023 à 19 h 19
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What was the earliest a top 3 pick moved on from the go team


Berard for Redden
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12 févr. 2023 à 20 h 10
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Sitting here thinking that if the Kings have indeed acquired Chychrun and Vejmelka (very shrewd move), then I reckon that means that both the Kings and Rangers will have began and completed their rebuilds which began essentially after Edmonton and Toronto drafted their franchise centers.

It's not a good feeling.


Neither the Kings nor Rangers have gotten many significant contributions from players they’ve drafted during their rebuilds. Contrarily, the Oilers and Leafs have failed to significantly improve their rosters via trades/free agency since crushing the Draft. Very interesting.
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12 févr. 2023 à 20 h 17
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Neither the Kings nor Rangers have gotten many significant contributions from players they’ve drafted during their rebuilds. Contrarily, the Oilers and Leafs have failed to significantly improve their rosters via trades/free agency since crushing the Draft. Very interesting.


Building through the draft - at least in the lens of your observation - seems to be such a baseline for each team that it can no longer be viewed as a key for modern-day NHL success. It's so damn important that every team needs to be doing it. The addition of auxiliary pieces looks much more crucial. Both LA and NY are attractive places for UFAs to play even when taxes are considered.

Both the Kings and Rangers held onto their old cores. The Leafs went full nuclear and the Oilers never really had any NHL talent besides their own drafted prospects from about 2009 until maybe 2 summers ago?

A lot of attention is paid to drafting and developing talent but I don't think a big enough deal is made regarding insulating that talent once it's NHL-ready. Even the Bolts didn't win a cup until their rebuild-sourced prospects were NHL veterans and names like Kucherov and Point weren't required to be polebearers for the franchise until they smashed through the glass ceiling.
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12 févr. 2023 à 20 h 21
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If Jesse Puljujarvi gets waived tomorrow, the first team in line are the Blue Jackets.

The team with Patrik Laine.

Make it happen Kekalainen
12 févr. 2023 à 20 h 23
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12 févr. 2023 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: Hurricanes_WPG
If Jesse Puljujarvi gets waived tomorrow, the first team in line are the Blue Jackets.

The team with Patrik Laine.

Make it happen Kekalainen


do they have spot for him. they have a ton of wingers
12 févr. 2023 à 20 h 37
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If Jesse Puljujarvi gets waived tomorrow, the first team in line are the Blue Jackets.

The team with Patrik Laine.

Make it happen Kekalainen


I believe its Tuesday when its reported he is gonna get waived

I honestly dont see anyone claiming him if it happens

3mill is to much for a guy like that. Let him not get qualified and like Kase sign him to a 1 year 1.25mill deal
 
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