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(SJS/DET) - Future considerations for Walman, 2024 2nd (TBL)

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mar. à 15 h 21
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Replace Compher with Copp in that


regardless it is time we question his GMing
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mar. à 15 h 22
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Guentzel to Detroit
mar. à 15 h 23
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I seen future considerations and thought it was a holl dump… wasn’t expecting this.

Easy sharks W what is yzerman doing
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mar. à 15 h 23
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Quoting: JarvisforSelke
I mean the contract isn't even that bad... it pretty close to market value


It's a genuinely baffling move by Detroit. There has to be something else related to this to make it make some sort of sense.
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mar. à 15 h 24
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Sweeney: "I'm going to make the worst trade of the offseason."
Yzerman: "Hold my beer."
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DET just pulled off the huh move of the century
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mar. à 15 h 25
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Quoting: toque
The biggest difference for me is Yzerman's supporting cast. He had BriesBois, Verbeek, their god-level amateur scouting and development staff, Stacey Roest, etc. In Detroit literally 99% of their hockey ops positions are former Red Wings who got the job from Ken Holland after their career ended. He's added 1 front office job (Lidstrom), and that's someone who lives and works in Sweden. And he hired his own brother as a pro scout.

GMs always get too much credit for being good and too much blame for being bad. You need good people in your hockey ops department.


Great point. Woof Detroit is the definition of the Old Boys Club. The Yzerplan is looking really confusing right now

BUT I think another factor is having to live in Florida vs Michigan. Almost everyone would pick Florida over Michigan due to the warm weather, beaches and no state income tax. Hell if I made 100k after taxes and had to pick between living in either state I pick Florida 10/10 days
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mar. à 15 h 27
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Brutal for Detroit
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mar. à 15 h 28
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It’s all part of the “Yzerplan”
mar. à 15 h 28
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Crazy to do this for Walman when that blueline has Holl, Chiarot and Petry all on trash contracts
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mar. à 15 h 29
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If Yzerman was willing to pay to move Walman fast even though he's a nice 2nd pair guy this screams that he has a big move in mind and when we look at FA 2 names pop up

Zadorov and Skjei
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Detroit has probably 3 defensemen that this move would have made more sense for. I don’t understand how they couldn’t convince San Jose to take Holl or Petry instead of the guy who’s been Seiders partner for the last 2 years
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Quoting: mondo
Cap dump trade, Yzerman must be cooking something.


He wants Kotkaniemi. Badly
mar. à 15 h 30
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May be Grier's best trade ever!

Definitely a cap dump by the Red Wings. Wondering what they will do in the next week.
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mar. à 15 h 31
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Quoting: aadoyle
If Yzerman was willing to pay to move Walman fast even though he's a nice 2nd pair guy this screams that he has a big move in mind and when we look at FA 2 names pop up

Zadorov and Skjei


I think Walman to Zadorov would be a downgrade
mar. à 15 h 31
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Wtf is this. I am baffled. The world does not make sense. How does a D as good as Walman even need to get dumped? How did nobody step up to take him for FC??? HOW THE HELL DID SAN JOSE GET A 2nd just TO TAKE HIM ON?????????
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mar. à 15 h 32
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Oh nice Grier remembered rebuilding teams take on cap dumps.

Nice job my dude
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oooof! Must be a big Seider contract incoming.
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Unless Yzerman got a handshake that keeps SJ from taking at #14 who he wants at #15, this is shambolic. So dumb. And I'm asking myself why the Blues didn't receive this gift, seeing as how we've given them some recently. What an a-hole.
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mar. à 15 h 41
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Quoting: CapFriendly
Trade confirmed: [url=/teams/redwings]Detroit Red Wings[/url] - [url=/teams/sharks]San Jose Sharks[/url]


This has got to be a retention thing!? Like the next deal is going to be someone coming to Detroit through San Jose and SJ is retaining salary

Right????
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mar. à 15 h 43
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Quoting: Stevierebz
This has got to be a retention thing!? Like the next deal is going to be someone coming to Detroit through San Jose and SJ is retaining salary

Right????


Can't happen, SJ has no retention slots left.
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mar. à 15 h 44
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Quoting: mondo
Cap dump trade, Yzerman must be cooking something.


Sure but that seems like a big price to pay. Cap dumps are so weird. Seems to be the least consistent thing value wise
mar. à 15 h 51
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I give up with these NHL GM's man......Just another day where an actual GM does the compete opposite of the collective CF brain trust.

Just another reminder that when someone on here proposes a trade that you think "No way "X" Gm does that /laughs and hangs up", just know there is at least one NHL GM probably thinking that its a good trade.
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mar. à 15 h 57
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Quoting: mokumboi
Unless Yzerman got a handshake that keeps SJ from taking at #14 who he wants at #15, this is shambolic. So dumb. And I'm asking myself why the Blues didn't receive this gift, seeing as how we've given them some recently. What an a-hole.


They wouldn't have to do a handshake on that. They could have just included the swap of those two draft picks in the trade instead of future considerations. Then it would have made a little more sense.
mar. à 15 h 58
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If we see Detroit fleece the Rangers at some point this week, cue the conspiracy theorists about a roundabout compensation for the Goodrow "waivers."

Think about it.

1. New York "trades" Goodrow to San Jose via waivers, and the Sharks get future considerations for taking on the cap dump.
2. Detroit provides compensation to San Jose in the form of Walman and a 2nd.
3. New York provides compensation to Detroit to reimburse them for covering up their NTC workaround.
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