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pavelisgoat

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Forum: Armchair-GM30 mai à 23 h 19
Sujet: Just a run at a DET team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>First Detroit is protecting Stecher, Hronek and most likely Cholowski. Leaving Lindstrom unprotected and if he is taken it ok because we have Tuomisto. Why would Detroit trade Tuomisto he has earned praise every he goes. I have nothing against Clang but Detroit has 4 goalie prospects as just as good. Björkqvist at 23 has been a pro for 2yrs and has only played 11 games in the AHL. From Detroit's pov neither of those players have a lot of value when you want one of their best D prospects. That Eichel trade if you can't see why that is bad for Detroit you nerd help.</div></div>

I’m not disagreeing but ah man are we going to leave Lindstrom unprotected? The thought of him being taken upsets me. I just think he’s a rock solid bottom pair guy and despite common belief those guys don’t always grow on trees (good ones don’t) but are so important for teams to take that step in contending
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mai à 19 h 33
Sujet: On Earth Two where Pettersson will be dealt this summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Hmm. Seider plus 7th overall pick.
We know this will never happen...
But, that would be some trade.



I don't think any player <em>outside</em> the league that could ever return a top-5 player <em>in</em> the league.
Maybe McDavid, Crosby, Mario before their rookie years.
That's about it.
Seider would not return one a McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, etc</div></div>

Not a chance Seider would return someone like Mackinnon on his own haha but that is the point. He is the best prospect in the NHL and hopefully a future Norris winner. Point is, don’t trade him unless it’s for a top 5 player in the league (that would mean some type of package)
I love Petterson but I wouldn’t trade Seider for him straight up at this point
Forum: Armchair-GM 9 mai à 11 h 25
Sujet: Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Wings would be much better off, keeping those young assets, and spending 10m on UFAI(s) than just one 10m Eichel.
Don't know why the Sabres would be against the the trade, getting all those young assets and new found cap.</div></div>

Yeah you’re correct, I wouldn’t do this trade as I stated in description. But sure is interesting to see how both sides view this idea. It’s a lot of assets in one trade, even if none are of the elite prospect level, 3 firsts easily should have 1 turn elite.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>No its crap. I said Berggren is good, but thats it. Including the 3 picks in 2021, this draft sucks and everyone knows it. You have 3 players that couldn't make it in Detroit, 2 of which are dmen that have 0 chance in Buffalo and some unknown kid that may be 4-6 years away from an NHL debut. Picks dont make up value, and the Sabres should be getting as few as possible</div></div>

At the most it’s 2 players that couldn’t make it in Detroit. If the third is McIsaac well he is a 2018 draft pick 36 overall and has been mostly injured since the draft. But even if he hadn’t been, I would suggest no chance he would have a shot at the NHL yet, Veleno selected 6 spots ahead of him just got his first 5 games as a forward, defence take longer. The other 2 are still relatively young and while they won’t live up to their draft position, it’s early to say they won’t be NHLers. I’m sorry, picks don’t have value in your eyes?
Forum: Armchair-GM 9 mai à 0 h 46
Sujet: Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>That’s a more diplomatic statement than the one I made. However a pile of prospects the Sabres don’t have a use for
does not equate a franchise center. Especially not one Who is 24 years old with a long-term contract in place.

The desired return for Jack Eichel would essentially be another Jack Eichel. The best the Red Wings could hope to do would be Dylan Larkin. But Jack Eichel is better than Dylan Larkin, at least when he is fully healthy like last season. Jack Eichel was in the Hart trophy conversation, Dylan Larkin has never been. Translation: the Red Wings do not have the pieces the Sabres would want in return for Jack Eichel. A hockey trade is pretty much what the Sabres would be asking for. A pile of prospects and first round picks wouldn’t appeal to the Fanbase all that much. They have been spinning their wheels for a decade and the fans are tired of rebuilding over and over again. A trade that signifies the beginning of another rebuild would simply mean that no one is buying tickets.</div></div>

Sabres shouldn’t trade Eichel then I guess haha. Fan base may not want it, but their current makeup isn’t good enough so if you swap Eichel for another Eichel, I’m not sure what the does for them now or going forward. I saw some Rangers Agm’s on here that if they were on the table, the Sabres should take. But those include prospects / guys close to making the jump and picks
Forum: Armchair-GM 8 mai à 23 h 56
Sujet: Eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>A pile of crap and a few first round picks in a low rated draft doesn’t move the needle, especially to a team within the same division. If you can’t part with your Best prospects you’re not getting Jack Eichel, and that’s the end of it.</div></div>

What is the desired return? Looking instead for Raymond and a first? Hockey deal like Laine and a first isn't really possible on Detroit. These prospects are far from a pile of crap though.
Berggren - drafted 33rd in 2018, 7th in SHL scoring this season
McIsaac - drafted 36th overall in 2018, has dealt with injuries over past 2 seasons but is finally back playing again. Potential for middle pair d-man
Niederbach - drafted 51st overall in 2020, too early to know but played well at WJC
Svechnikov and Cholowski are 1st rounders that are kind of reclamation projects
Top 10 pick, Top 30 pick, Top 50 pick in this year's draft and unprotected next season pick.
Like I said, quantity, but not crap.
Forum: Armchair-GM 7 mai à 7 h 24
Sujet: Pavel Buchnevich
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>Fair enough...sad thing is that Wilson is a REALLY good hockey player....he doesn’t need to be dirty to be very effective....but he seemingly can’t help himself from making vicious hits on vulnerable players where he appears he is trying to injure someone...you can be real physical and not do that stuff....as far as Buch- can’t condone a cross check to another’s face...and while he can play with edge- that type of hit is not his game....unfortunately that hit and the rest of the fiasco last night was a direct result of the Ranger players’ perception that once again the NHL failed to properly address the actions of a dangerous bully...so they tried to take matters in their hands...that is not good for the game.</div></div>

Can’t disagree with anything you said here
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mai à 23 h 36
Sujet: Pavel Buchnevich
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>Gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the shot Mantha took from Buch hurt more than the punches Wilson put on Buch....but you are really missing the point- which is that Wilson continually looks to hit players when they are extremely vulnerable....Buch was in a position where he couldn’t defend himself and if the punches continued (and Wilson wasn’t letting up until Strome got involved), given his awkward position he could have taken a punch which caused serious injury to his neck, the disks, etc....doesn’t take much of a shot to cause serious damage.</div></div>

Ok sure, if that’s the point you were trying to make then yeah, Wilson can be a dirty player. I do think he is quite effective in his role but that’s a different point to this all. I don’t see it as Wilson would have kept pounding on the guy on the ice, but it’s unknown so sure. My point originally was only to say that Buch’s play was dirtier than Wilson’s, not that Buch or someone else is a dirtier player than Wilson . So maybe we were looking at this from different angles

Edit: put Buch name in where should have said Wilson
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mai à 19 h 06
Sujet: Pavel Buchnevich
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>You kidding me??
Wilson punching Buch while Buch was in an awkward, defenseless position with his head pushed to the ice and his neck against a stick, and his right arm twisted up...pretty damn dirty...in all fairness the punches weren’t death blows- but maybe thanks to Strome jumping in injury to Buch was avoided....which of course led to Panarin jumping on Wilson (to try prevent Strome getting rag dolled (the way he eventually did).

I’m fine with Buch getting suspended for his attacking Mantha (even though Mantha provoked)...but to marginalize what Wilson did versus what Buch did a game later is downright insane....Wilson showed that night....just as he has shown numerous times...that he has no regard for players’ safety. He should have been suspended remainder of regular season and first round of the playoffs...for whatever reason his “consequences” on ensuing violations are getting more and more minimal....this league is failing its players.</div></div>

Following up on my above with a short question. As a player have you been punched with a helmet, a glove, or both on? How about taking a hi-stick right to the face? Well in my experience the hi-stick feels much worse. That’s without it even being a forceful cross check. That’s how I’m looking at it, there is equipment protecting Buch, him being right against the ice probably doesn’t make it more dangerous because the transfer of energy is going to go from his equipment into the ice and there’s no whiplash effect there
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mai à 19 h 01
Sujet: Pavel Buchnevich
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jimbo1119</b></div><div>You kidding me??
Wilson punching Buch while Buch was in an awkward, defenseless position with his head pushed to the ice and his neck against a stick, and his right arm twisted up...pretty damn dirty...in all fairness the punches weren’t death blows- but maybe thanks to Strome jumping in injury to Buch was avoided....which of course led to Panarin jumping on Wilson (to try prevent Strome getting rag dolled (the way he eventually did).

I’m fine with Buch getting suspended for his attacking Mantha (even though Mantha provoked)...but to marginalize what Wilson did versus what Buch did a game later is downright insane....Wilson showed that night....just as he has shown numerous times...that he has no regard for players’ safety. He should have been suspended remainder of regular season and first round of the playoffs...for whatever reason his “consequences” on ensuing violations are getting more and more minimal....this league is failing its players.</div></div>

No I’m not kidding you. A cross check to the face is more dangerous than a punch (this wasn’t a haymaker guys) to the shoulder/neck/head area. Not saying what Wilson did was clean here my guy. Everything that followed the Buch on the ice and defenceless part, I would say is a scrum, and to which that is hockey, there was nothing insane about what happened. Wilson was worked up and fighting harder than the rest of the guys were, he’s also stronger. I’m not a caps fan.

Don’t take the Wilson play in a vacuum and the Mantha play as the whole play. Buch kicked the goalie, so if we are going to include the taps on the leg (I can’t believe this is a selling point for rangers fans believing Mantha deserved this cross check to the face), then let’s include the kick in considering the way those plays developed. Both were dirty, Busch’s was worse. You’re free to think differently, I’m not a fan of either team in this scenario and I think the league sees it the same way
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mai à 16 h 04
Sujet: Pavel Buchnevich
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>It's amazing to me that you can write this and not realize how much it proves that you're wrong -- 100% demonstrably and indisputably wrong. Yes, the whole point is that "Mantha would have happily fought and destroyed Buch" because he's a cowardly bully -- he knew who he was slashing from behind, so he felt safe in doing so. He wouldn't have dared slash Milan Lucic or any other tough guy in the NHL. So when Buchnevic unexpectedly turned the tables by using his stick instead of his hands, you come to the bully's defense. And YES, I'm trying to tell you that a couple of whacks to the leg isn't a normal play in the NHL when the whacker is a tough guy and the whackee is a skill guy.

Wilson is a disgrace to hockey, and the fact that Mantha needs to be defended after being the bully initiating the incident indicates that he isn't far behind Wilson. Your inability to acknowledge Mantha's instigation is very telling.</div></div>

Mate, you are well over the point of being triggered, clearly mad and just wanting to argue at this point it appears. I hope in real life you never write stuff like “how much it proves that you’re wrong” lol come on.

A. Calling Mantha a cowardly bully is absurd and has no backing
B. Mantha did not like the hit from Buch, but Buch skated away from him, hence the whacks. With the temperature of the game I’m sure Mantha expected to go right after that kind of run (not saying it was dirty but an unnecessarily aggressive hit from someone you are calling a skill guy)
C. Mantha is pretty tough himself, just always breaks his hand when he fights haha but I don’t think he’s scared of most in the league. Mantha is ALSO a skill guy
D. Hahahaha “using his stick instead of his hands” oh so an attempt to injure you mean? Because that’s clearly what it was
E. Players whack players in the legs at all levels of the game that is hockey buddy, part of being tough to play against. This instance was clearly not part of the play, but that’s not an irregular thing to have happen to let guys know you’re there
F. I did not mention Wilson in this last response, you are so clearly triggered by him that you need to turn every post into something about him. And don’t you dare tell me Mantha is right behind Wilson get yourself checked
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mai à 11 h 07
Sujet: Pavel Buchnevich
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Dirtier? Mantha knew what was coming -- he'd whacked Buchnevich THREE SEPARATE TIMES from behind to goad Buchnevvich into turning around -- for which Mantha was penalized, after all. So Mantha can't whine about a smaller, skill player retaliating face-to-face. Is the feckless Department of Player Safety going to have a hearing for Mantha's stickwork? Of course not.

I grew up in the streets of NY in a much earlier time. I learned, among other things:

1. You pay the price, you earn the right.

2. If you start something, you don't get to weasel about how the other guy finishes it.

Suspending Shayne Gostisbehere two games for checking from behind immediately after kissing Wilson's a$$ and giving further discipline to Buchnevich without also punishing Mantha for being 100% at fault for creating an incident in an already highly-charged atmosphere, demonstrates that every single person in the DPS should be fired before the playoffs start. Otherwise, the Stanley Cup could be mayhem.

Lenny, you know what respect I have for your opinion. But this time, you're wrong.</div></div>

Mantha would have happily fought and destroyed Buch if the linesmen weren’t in his way. Buch is the one that actually did something and weasled his way out of it with protection from the refs. How can you defend a guy jumping at someone’s head with his stick, Mantha’s head isn’t sitting there at shoulder height that was a targeted attack to the head. You’re way too charged up about this whole situation if you are SERIOUSLY trying to tell me a couple whacks to the leg isn’t a normal play in the NHL