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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>He's good, not denying that, but Selke? Come on... again, Trocheck should be here above Suzuki</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>Read that a little bit : https://thehockeywriters.com/2023-24-selke-trophy-tracker/</div></div>

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I can do some objective comparison of the two using the relevant stats I posted above:

Vincent Trocheck:
5v5 xGF%: 52.1% (3rd on team among forwards behind Panarin and Lafreniere - his linemates)
5v5 CF%: 54% (3rd on team among forwards behind Panarin and Lafreniere)
PK TOI/GP: 1:29 (4th on team behind Bonino [2:02], Goodrow [1:58], and Zibanejad [1:52])
FO%: 59.3%, best on team (Other centers on team: Zibanejad [49.4%], Goodrow [54.8%], Bonino [51%])

Nick Suzuki:
5v5 xGF%: 49.2% (3rd on team among forwards behind Armia and Gallagher - not his linemates)
5v5 CF%: 50% (best on team among forwards)
PK TOI/GP: 0:57 (9th on team behind pretty much everyone. Jake Evans [3:10] leads team)
FO%: 53.6%, 3rd on team (Other centers on team: Monahan [55%], Evans [51.5%], Dvorak [59.9%]

Their on ice percentages are roughly equal, but Trocheck definitely has the edge due to PK usage and faceoff prowess. However, I wouldn't put either player in the top 5.

For comparison, let's look at some real Selke contenders:

Alex Barkov:
5v5 xGF%: 61.2% (best on team)
5v5 CF%: 58% (best on team)
PK TOI/GP: 1:55 (4th on team behind Stenlund [2:32], Luostarinen [2:29], Reinhart [2:05])
FO%: 57.5%, best on team (Other centers on team: Lundell [53.5%], Stenlund [53.0%], Luostarinen [53.1%])

Jordan Staal:
5v5 xGF%: 62.1% (best on team)
5v5 CF%: 63% (2nd on team behind Jesper Fast, his linemate)
PK TOI/GP: 2:07 (most on team)
FO%: 58.4%, best on team (Other centers on team: Drury [54.2%], Aho [54.1%], Kotkaniemi [50.3%])