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Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 54 minutes
Sujet:
Need shutdown C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Read it again, I said scoring was one of the Kings many problems against the Oilers. No way you guys signed him to be a third line guy. He's only a third line guy cuz you landed PLD. I get what you're saying, but prioritizing to keep a declining, shutdown center in lieu of a 80 point scorer ain't it.
Roy is very good at what he does, but I don't think its as black and white as you think it is. Daughty is already a liability and you guys are paying him 11mill to play top pair mins. With his contract, no way he plays less than a second pairing role, despite how much he declines. That leaves Roy or Clarke playing on the third pair, which makes no sense. Unless one of them goes to their offwing, which is so rare.</div></div>
100% not true. The Kings told Danault prior to signing him that the long term plan was for him to start at 2C and move down to 3C once Byfield was ready. When Byfield didn't emerge as quickly as expected, the Kings went out and traded for Dubois. Here's a quote from his media availability immediately following his signing.
<a href="https://twitter.com/mayorNHL/status/1420477439768072193" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">I think you need three good centers to win, so 2C or 3C isn't that big of a deal... other than maybe a little bit of ice time. -- Danault</a>
If you think Doughty is a liability, you're not watching. Anderson and Doughty were one of the single best pairings in the NHL for the last two seasons. Is he worth $11M? No, but that doesn't mean he's not a top quality 1D any longer. I'm not sure why his contract makes any difference in where he plays in the lineup. If in the final years of his contract, he's not playing up to snuff, he'll play further down in the lineup. If Clarke signs a bridge deal for one season, then there's more than enough room to fit all three of them.
If you have Roy playing with Bjornfot and Clarke playing with Gavrikov, then you have three "top four" defensive pairings, which is necessary for any true Cup contender. The Kings had Alec Martinez playing on the 3rd pair on both of their Cup winning teams, and there's no doubt he's a top four guy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 1 heure
Sujet:
Need shutdown C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Why not? You guys have PLD signed long term. Kopitar probably retires after his contract is done. Byfield can slot into his natural center position. Does it really make sense for the Kings to pay Danault that much money as a 3rd line center? One of the Kings many problems against the Oilers is not being able to match their scoring, and adding Nylander helps that.
Trading Roy is a big loss, but there is a good chance he leaves in free agency. He can get more money and a bigger role on another team. Kings are stuck with Daughty and have Clarke waiting.</div></div>
Yes. They signed him specifically to be the 3rd line center.
The Kings didn't lose because they couldn't match Edmonton's scoring. If anyone gets into a scoring match with the Oilers, they're going to lose. They lost because they couldn't stay out of the penalty box and couldn't stop the big guns from scoring in certain situations. Getting rid of Danault only makes that worse. As you said, Kopitar will likely retire soon, and when that happens, Danault will be their only remaining shutdown center. Move him, and they went from two elite shutdown centers to zero in only a few seasons.
Matt Roy will be extended. The Kings have no one in the pipeline to replace what he brings to the lineup. Faber was the guy that was going to be his eventual replacement. Now that he's not in the system any longer, the Kings have no one to replace him. Roy will likely get a decent sized raise, but Clarke is on a cheap ELC for the next 3 years. Gavrikov's contract falls off the books before Clarke will get his payday. By the time Clarke is ready to take over as 1RD, Doughty will be on the wrong side of 35 and will start moving down the lineup.
There's absolutely no reason for the Kings to do this.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 14 h 29
Sujet:
My Standings Prediction
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DustinBrown1989</b></div><div>I think Ottawa gets in before the bruins and the sabres but I do think the sabres make the playoffs this year</div></div>
So you think one of Tampa, Toronto, or Florida doesn't make it? Or do you think only 3 teams from the Metro get in?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 19 h 8
Sujet:
retool after 23-24
The Kings will not give up a 1st round pick for a goaltender.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 58
Sujet:
Poitras and Bussi are solid
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kogut35</b></div><div>I guess, but with Swayman and Bussi it's decently low risk. Turcotte is a pretty good risk worth taking imo. Either way, then need another top 6 winger to be competitive, especially without high end centers.</div></div>
If you add $1.5M in retention to the trade, then I think the Kings would consider it.
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Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 50
Sujet:
Poitras and Bussi are solid
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kogut35</b></div><div>They could move a goalie, how much over the cap would they be if you subtract Arvidsson, and the Bruins retain 1.5m on Ullmark?</div></div>
Their most expensive goaltender is Copley @ $1.5M. However, they also need to replace Arvidsson on the roster, so his cap relief would be mitigated.
If Boston retains, it would work, but I don't think they're in a position to be able to do that.
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Fauteuil - DG
lun. à 16 h 29
Sujet:
Over reaction after game 1
The Kings learned their lesson from investing heavily in a goaltender with less than 100 starts under his belt. They will not give up a 1st round pick for Swayman.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 15 h 21
Sujet:
Poitras and Bussi are solid
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kogut35</b></div><div>Well of course it would require some form of cap dump for LA, but outside of retention you can't do that on cap friendly</div></div>
Unfortunately the Kings have nowhere else to dump from. Arvidsson is the sole asset that can the Kings can even think about moving for cap space, and they're only going to resort to that if they're desperate. He was the best player on the ice for the Kings in Australia. They're not keen to move him unless they absolutely have to (i.e. their current goaltenders completely crap the bed to start the season).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 14 h 55
Sujet:
Poitras and Bussi are solid
Regardless of the value, this trade doesn't work because LA doesn't fit under the cap.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 2 h 7
Sujet:
Would this be fair
What does LA want with another right defenseman? Even without Spence, they have Doughty, Roy, and Clarke already.
I'm not saying the value is bad, but the Kings have no reason to do this trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
dim. à 16 h 1
Sujet:
Kings 2024
I wouldn't give up a 1st for Carter Hart, or any goaltender for that matter.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 23 h 29
Sujet:
Joseph and waivers
Kings won't waive Bjornfot. You can have Englund if you want. He's going to start in the AHL.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 22 h 37
Sujet:
Zegras Trade rumors
"Trevor Zegras should be a target for Kent Hughes" isn't a rumor, it's a wish list.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 16 h 29
Sujet:
Kings in Australia
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Finally, we have hockey back.
Really curious about how our PK will look.</div></div>
Personnel wise? Kopitar, Danault, Moore, and Lewis as the forwards. Anderson, Doughty, Gavrikov, Roy as the defensemen.
McLellan and Yawney are running the PK again, so hopefully they've made some structure changes. Bringing on Hiller fixed the power play last season, so I'm surprised and disillusioned that they didn't bring on a new PK coach.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 15 h 55
Sujet:
2024-2025
Until Knight resolves his OCD issues in the assistance program, he's not going to be moved anywhere.
“I can still be the player I want to be, and I still believe I can be one of the best goalies in this league,” Knight said. “Maybe it’s this year, maybe it’s next year, maybe it’s in three years or four years or five years."
Not promising from a player that would require a significant haul to acquire.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 14 h 7
Sujet:
Upgrade hypothetical
As a Kings fan, I wouldn't do a single one of these trades.
Maybe Chicago, but probably not.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 13 h 21
Sujet:
2024 TDL - Edmundson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Richard88</b></div><div>It's supply and demand. In the off-season prices are generally lower as teams have more flexibility than at the deadline when teams are trying to squeeze things under the cap. The fact that he's already 50% retained means that the buyer also won't need to pay extra for double retention, and at $875k he's easily affordable for any playoff team which means there will be many suitors (if he's healthy).
Solid Dmen also always cost a premium at the TDL and this year's pool of UFA Dmen looks worse than some other years so prices will probably be relatively high for the few decent ones available.</div></div>
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one then. I don't think Edmundson will return much in a trade, even with retention.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 20 h 23
Sujet:
Are the Leafs really going to run a 20 man roster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsmustwin</b></div><div>So if they keep Jarnkrok and don't trade anyone how are they getting under cap , it is not possible without losing someone .</div></div>
Are you operating on the assumption that everyone that gets put on waivers will get claimed?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 20 h 15
Sujet:
Are the Leafs really going to run a 20 man roster
I read yesterday that Treliving said that he has long-term plans for Jarnkrok as a 3rd line defensive forward. So I wouldn't count on it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 20 h 11
Sujet:
2024 TDL - Edmundson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>I was also talking about Edmundson. I don’t necessarily think he’s going to fetch a second at the deadline (in fact I’d bet that he doesn’t), but I do think that the value between a 2024 3rd + 7th is comparable to a 2026 2nd.</div></div>
I don't disagree, but my point was that Washington shouldn't get the same return for Edmundson that Montreal did since they're retaining less money for significantly less time.
I suspect they'll get a mitigated draft pick. Something similar to what the Kings got in return for trading Nate Thompson to Montreal at the deadline in 2019.
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/200004">(MTL/LAK) - 4th round pick for Thompson and 5th round pick</a>
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 19 h 49
Sujet:
2024 TDL - Edmundson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>A 2026 2nd round pick isn’t really as valuable as an upcoming 3rd round pick. The third round pick could realistically be an NHL player by 2027, whereas the 2026 second round pick might not even be in the NHL until 2029 or later.
Regardless, if you look at both trades as one, it doesn’t make sense for the caps to sell Dowd for anything less than a second, so that’s an underpayment.</div></div>
I was talking about Edmundson. Montreal retained $1.75M and got significantly less. If Washington only has to retain half of that (25% of his cap hit), and only for a few weeks, they're not going to get 2nd round pick for him, even if it's in 2036.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 19 h 3
Sujet:
2024 TDL - Edmundson
Wasn't he just traded with 50% retention (twice as much as here) for a 3rd and a 7th? Why would he cost more here as a rental?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 18 h 59
Sujet:
Zegras and line combination
Quantity over quality. Nothing there to entice the Ducks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 18 h 58
Sujet:
Zegras to the canes
I think a 1st and a roster player are a good start, but you'd probably have to add a prospect with a higher ceiling. The 2nd and 3rd are pretty irrelevant here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
jeu. à 17 h 19
Sujet:
Say it with me NO MORE BUSTS
Just one more...
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