tkecanuck341

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Kings fan since 1986. Season ticket holder since 2011.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Sujet: Cirelli Sergachev Lizotte and Clifford
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I just think that you're optimistic in hoping that Lizotte is worth a second.</div></div>

After the season he just had, I have no doubt that he's worth a 2nd right now, especially considering his six-figure cap hit and the confirmed flat cap for several seasons. I think his services will be in high demand.

However, if he has a sophomore slump, that might change. It would be a risk by the Kings to hold onto him until the trade deadline, but one that might pay off. If he improves on his play from this season, then the Kings might be inclined to use a protection slot on him, especially if Wagner, Grundstrom, and Frk all have disappointing seasons. In that situation, a Lizotte trade would no longer be necessary.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 7 heures
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 8 heures
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 9 heures
Sujet: Cirelli Sergachev Lizotte and Clifford
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I don't think that we can count on their re-signing Clifford. This way, we make it easier for them to do so, both financially and draft-wise. Now they can trade Johnsson (moving Kerfoot over to LW) or Kerfoot or both (Barabanov-Lizotte-Kapanen).

Without the trade, we have a third which exerts some negative influence on whether they re-up Cliffie and Lizotte, for whom presumably we must still make some expansion draft arrangement/decision. With the trade, we have a second and fourth and a landing spot for Lizotte. Remember, you're the one who keeps saying we're going to lose him to Seattle. Jeez.</div></div>

I do think that as it stands, the Kings are likely to lose Lizotte to Seattle. There's still a lot of hockey to play between now and then, so things can change, but absent some big acquisition or standout play from someone unexpected, Lizotte seems to be the likely casualty. I also think that rather than lose him for nothing, the Kings should consider trading him, as he carries too much value to simply lose him in the expansion draft.

That being said, I don't think the Kings should give him away for less than fair value. On his own, I would expect an unmitigated 2nd round pick or prospect equivalent in return. A single-round upgrade and a 4th isn't enough to get it done.

Additionally, I don't want to give Toronto any incentive to re-sign Clifford. My ideal outcome this summer is for them to choose to forego his extension and to see Clifford back in a Kings jersey this Fall. Trade Lizotte elsewhere for a 2nd round pick and keep the 3rd from the Leafs. If the Leafs do decide to re-sign Clifford, then the Kings now have two extra 2nd round picks. If they don't, then they have a 2nd and 3rd, plus Clifford back in the locker room.
Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 10 heures
Sujet: Cirelli Sergachev Lizotte and Clifford
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I'm sorry I haven't noticed a fellow Kings fan before. Thank you for the reaction and the opinion.

The main purpose of this construction wasn't really the Tampa transaction so much as to get the opinions of our colleagues <a href="/users/tkecanuck341" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@tkecanuck341</a> and <a href="/users/Bf3351" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Bf3351</a> and Toronto colleagues <a href="/users/palhal" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@palhal</a> and <a href="/users/Jamiepo" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Jamiepo</a> and <a href="/users/LeafsFanForSomeReason" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@LeafsFanForSomeReason</a> and others to the Lizotte trade.</div></div>

I'm not sure I understand the Lizotte trade. You're essentially satisfying the condition of the Clifford trade in upgrading from the 3rd to the 2nd, which "allows Toronto to resign Kyle Clifford without cost." So presuming that Toronto intends to re-sign Clifford, the Kings would have received that pick anyway. So you're essentially giving Lizotte away for a 2022 fourth round pick? I think the Kings could do a lot better than that.
Forum: Armchair-GMSat at 3:23 pm
Sujet: LEAFS 20-21
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpcrafty</b></div><div>The same Gabe Vilardi who’s played only 10 NHL games and is less than a PPG in the AHL? Calling him a sure fire top 6 is a very Kings-fan way to look at it. LA has a backlog of centre prospects like I’ve never seen before. Vilardi is falling down that depth chart a little every day. That’s reality. He’s also spent almost his entire pro career on LTIR. He’s one big hit away from going back on it and the league, the Kings and everyone else knows it.</div></div>

You clearly don't follow Kings hockey. Vilardi is a lock at 2C this season and will be in the Kings top six for years to come. There was worry last season that he would never rehab to the point of being able to play hockey again, but he has proven that to not be the case. Kings fans are all very high on him. Stutzle advocates project Vilardi as the 1C of the future.

Kings might consider swapping him for Robertson, but short of that, there's nothing that the Leafs have that would entice the Kings to trade Vilardi.