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Forum: Armchair-GM10 mar à 15 h 24
Sujet: Hall signs 1 yr to win the cup - DEMARCUS COUSIN LIKE DEAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>For sure.

I'm curious to see what the Leafs do...everyone around here usually gets dumped on when they move either of Marner or Nylander, and rightfully so with the majority of the deals that are proposed, but I'm just not sure how they manage to fill that RD hole without going big.

My opinion is that they should avoid trying to swing for a home run with the guys that are going to be overpriced, but are popular names around here among Leaf fans (Ekblad, Pesce, Dumba, Pietrangelo, Manson, etc.), and go for a reliable, second tier guy that offers some salary flexibility. Cernak has been popular here, but I really don't think Tampa moves him, especially given the fact that he's going to be one of the few guys that they can resign for a reasonable price.

-Nick Jensen from the Caps might be an under the radar guy...cost certainty and reliable in his own end (Though there's zero offensive upside, but the Leafs don't really need that in the first place, right?).
-Hamonic on a 2 year, $4 mil deal might not be a bad pickup if he's 100% healthy.
-Maybe Justin Braun? Not super flashy, but extremely consistent, and you wouldn't have to break the bank to make it happen.

Even looking at it though, maybe it's not going to be the biggest issue. Leafs have:

Rielly, Muzzin, Holl, Sandin, Dermott (?), Liljegren, and then Rosen (ugh) as depth. It's not as bad as Leafs threads make it out to be. Maybe all you really need is as solid, veteran UFA depth option as a 6th/7th dman (Would depend on how Liljegren looks in the fall, or if the Leafs want him to play some more big minutes in the minors).</div></div>

Honestly after this year they need to trade 1 major piece to improve their overall team. And it shouldn’t be Nylander. Even I have kicked Nylander around like a soccer ball but he’s been stellar this year. Arguably the leafs best player; we especially noticed that this last leafs road trip.

I’m be interested to talk with yourself and other leafs fans (as there’s not much talk with the sharks that’s fun).
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I personally believe you gotta move a core piece but not for parts. For a core piece back. Matthews and Nylander should stay imo; marner although just really touchy subject a maybe, Tavares is a no because C but also I think he’s been really ofF this year.

Nylander is the likely the odd man out even tho he should be kept.

Values are so varying because we say Nylander many fans of other teams may still think of last years Nylander and so NO NOT EVEN CLOSE blah blah; but he is a top winger and out performed his peers this year. For example if I’m toronto I would believe Nylander could fetch a top pairing d man + a good prospect or a top 4 d and a nhl ready high talent. Like what would opinions of :

Nylander

For

Ryan Ellis
+???? (Good value added)
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mar à 15 h 11
Sujet: Offering the sheet
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KCarry74</b></div><div>He's been great, even very good. But you still have to consider he's playing for the best offense right now (244). Let's translate that to SJ's offense (180) for fun : 44/244 = 18,03% = 32 points for SJ. I know it does not work like this, but his stats are definitively inflated by TB's offense.

I will use Domi's contract negociation since i'm from MTL. They both have 44 points, yes domi is 3 years older but Domi had 38 in 59 3 years ago on a poor offensive team which is around the same. I would never have considered paying Domi that much at this moment and even now, he's worth something around 6-6.5 IMO</div></div>

My only argument is Cirelli brings a lot more to a team then offence. He brings a lot more to a team then Domi. Point wise yes you could say no more then 6; but he’s an amazing two way Center for his age. He should only get better with experience and growth. If his output comparative is 6, I would say his defence and reliability give him a fair shot at 7 as to why I argue that I could see 8 possibly being a sound deal if he puts up 50-70 in San Jose and continues his defensive excellence
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mar à 14 h 53
Sujet: Hall signs 1 yr to win the cup - DEMARCUS COUSIN LIKE DEAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Very true, but he also doesn't replace Barrie, Ceci, Holl's contract doesn't jump, Dermott's doesn't jump, Campbell's doesn't jump, etc.

They're sitting at $76.2 right now for 2020, with 15 guys signed. So, you add Hall at $5 (We can all agree that it's not happening, but still...), so $81.2 with 16 guys. The goal here is a 23 man roster, and realistically I think we can all say that the cap ain't jumping to $88, it's probably more like $84, so you've got $2.8 mil to sign 7 more players.

Even without Hall, there's still a cap crunch in Toronto...But hey, at least you're not Tampa!</div></div>

Well we all know Toronto is in a tough spot, cap is probably really at 83-85.5 as highest limits. 88 just get us talking (and it’s done it’s job). Tampa and Toronto are going to have to make trades so it’ll be interesting offseason to see
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mar à 14 h 35
Sujet: Hall signs 1 yr to win the cup - DEMARCUS COUSIN LIKE DEAL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Sure like Hall is going to waste one year with Toronto for currently less then what he's making this year, Get real no way Hall does his. And considering you're nearly $20 million over the cap. You sir are fired.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Copenhagen</b></div><div>You are 20 million over the cap, and now way Hall signs a short deal with his injuries</div></div>

If you guys haven’t noticed he’s in 2019, so all th expiring contracts all still there (like Ceci), and the two LTIR contracts aren’t moved and cap isn’t adjusted to be 83-88mil so yeah he’s not actually over the cap.

Doesn’t take away from hall never signing that 1 for 5mil tho
Forum: Armchair-GM10 mar à 0 h 04
Sujet: Mittelstadt - Buffalo fans input
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SalamiCheese</b></div><div>Easy no from Buffalo.

1. Mitts is not a cap dump, and it has some value
2. Jones has been bad in recent seasons and we don’t need his contract
3. We have Ullmark, which looks like a starter and plays pretty solidly, we just need a partner for it for a couple of years</div></div>

I never said he was a cap dump?<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Cap space is a premium. Mittelstadt is still 21. I dont see why Buffalo would. Sabres could use a goalie, but cant take a flyer on Jones bouncing back. If he doesnt thats another big waste of cap, which is quickly building in Buffalo. Ullmark is a starter. Sabres struggled when he was hurt</div></div>


And it’s understandable as to why I’m asking his value, as I see jones as maybe worth a 3rd (more valuable to us if he plays well but as well know goalies are consistently inconsistent to find). Plus I added true and conditional picks so I would say a first is a stretch with Casey’s current trajectory but not impossible.
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mar à 13 h 22
Sujet: Sorry to break it to everyone but Escrow
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>Agreed
To me a teams owner shouldnt withhold and gamble with players money just because they want to spend all their cap on 1-2 contract .

I mean for your NHL entry level or league minimum salaries they're only losing up to 150k which is a lot but its before taxes so not a crushing blow.
With NHL players like Toews he's losing just over 1.5m a year to Escrow which is why he's been Vocal in his displeasure of Escrow.</div></div>

And the variety of it can change. It should be like a flat percentage. Like all teams take ; 11% let’s just say (random number) that way it’s fair and your still getting a alot total back from the contracts where as the leafs escrow is probably like 10$Mil from their main 4-5 guys let alone the rest of the team brings that way higher.
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mar à 12 h 36
Sujet: I remembered when I was mocked for saying this team can compete next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>they were going to be more fun to watch and not that slog from the year before, but they still have major issues in net. Second worst goal differential in the league. THey really need to clean up that back end</div></div>

They’ve been fun to watch this year a lot of fans have missed out this year, that’s a problem with the stigma around them, and next year should only be better.

As for the net hogberg has been real good. He could become a starter (atleast, the very least, a good backup). I’ve seen him in person a few times and he’s not just a flash in the pan (I think). I wasn’t going to sign a big big name FA as that’s to unrealistic but we’ll see what they do
Forum: Armchair-GM 6 mar à 12 h 13
Sujet: I remembered when I was mocked for saying this team can compete next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sicarius</b></div><div>Pretty much every organization would love to have Ottawa's picks but it's never a guarantee those top picks have instant success in the NHL. Have you seen the production from the top 2 picks from last year's draft? All I'm saying is don't count your chickens... or choke them</div></div>

Agreed 100%. I never take these kids for granted (as why I put Alexis 3 Wing).
But I put Alexis ahead of both the last kids. Hopefully it works out for him. But I agree with not rushing kids, I’d rather a year of pro hockey before NHL but that does happen anymore. Like Caufield being likely kept down; people freak out when Marc berg said that but it’s true. I would love to mock Montreal but that’s a smart decision that people wrongfully got skepticism