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(PIT/CAR) - Guentzel, Smith for Bunting, Koivunen, Ponomarev, Lucius, 2024 2nd (PHI), 2024 5th (CAR)

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7 mars à 23 h 42
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Trade confirmed: Carolina Hurricanes - Pittsburgh Penguins
Détails de la transaction
Les Hurricanes de la Caroline font l’acquisition de:
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Jake Guentzel
83
L1
(1 500 000 $ retenus - 25%) · 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
Ty Smith · 0 $775 000 $775 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Somme: 4 500 000 $5 275 000 $5 275 000 $
Variation: 0 $
Variation: -825 833 $
Variation: +615 000 $
Les Penguins de Pittsburgh font l’acquisition de:
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Michael Bunting
78
L3
· 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
Vasili Ponomarev · 0 $795 000 $80 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Cruz Lucius · 0 $0 $0 $ (LAH/JR) (Droits de signature)
Ville Koivunen · 0 $805 833 $80 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI - #44) [Conditionnel]*
Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CAR - #159) [Conditionnel]**
*Conditions: Le choix en deviendra un de 1e ronde des Hurricanes en 2024 si la Caroline atteint la finale de la Coupe Stanley.
**Conditions: Les Penguins recevront le choix uniquement si les Hurricanes remportent la Coupe Stanley en 2024.
Somme: 4 500 000 $6 100 833 $4 660 000 $
Variation: 0 $
Variation: +825 833 $
Variation: -615 000 $
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7 mars à 23 h 42
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Holy... Most prices just went down

Not even a guaranteed 1st for Guentzel is bad
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7 mars à 23 h 43
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Wow. This is an absolute fleece job by Carolina. I like Koivunen a lot, Lucius is solid, and Ponomarev is alright, but this is Jake freakin' Guentzel we are talking about. Pittsburgh doesnt even get a 1st unless Carolina makes the SCF. Feels like Dubas could've done so much better, guys like Morrow or Blake or Nadeau would've been far more fair.

For Carolina, this is the superstar they have long wanted. Guentzel is one of the best wingers in this league, and they didnt even have to give up any of their best prospects to get him. Excellent addition and he will thrive in Carolina.

For Pittsburgh, I already mentioned I really like Koivunen and I think Bunting next to Crosby will be very fun, but man this is underwhelming. I doubt Ponomarev or Lucius become much more than bottom 6ers, and they arent really guys you want to kick off your rebuild. This is going to be a tough pill to shallow for Pens fans who rightfully expected much more for a guy who gave his all to the organization for years.

The real winners here are NHL fans who are thrilled Vegas didnt land Guentzel. Heres to hoping they strike out on Buchnevich as well!
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7 mars à 23 h 43
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Dubas just got Fleeced. Could’ve asked for more. Big carolina win
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7 mars à 23 h 43
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This is almost criminal,

As a canes fan: I love it,

As a pens fan: I would like to file a police report, this type of assault should not go unpunished
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7 mars à 23 h 44
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Dubas got fleeced imho
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7 mars à 23 h 44
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I don't think this is as bad as people online are immediately saying. Pono looks very promising
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7 mars à 23 h 45
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This barely scratches Carolina's prospect pool and they get the impact goal scorer they've needed for years. Adore this for them. As for Pittsburgh that's a really disappointing return especially from a division rival
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7 mars à 23 h 45
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Damn what happened to all the top prospects on top of a 1st
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7 mars à 23 h 45
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Quoting: Shifttee
This is almost criminal,

As a canes fan: I love it,

As a pens fan: I would like to file a police report, this type of assault should not go unpunished


Bruh how can anyone be a fan of two division rivals grimace
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7 mars à 23 h 45
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Dubas just got FLEECED, Picked up no substantial prospects and very likely a 2nd round pick.
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7 mars à 23 h 46
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Why
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No Morrow, no Nikishin, no Blake, no Nadeau, no Dragonborn...

Canes fan, I like it.
I will miss Bunts though. I loved him.
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7 mars à 23 h 47
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If Carolina wins it all, Dubas gets lucky as hell. Otherwise, this is quantity over quality like a mofo.
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7 mars à 23 h 47
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A Canes trade? AT THE DEADLINE???
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7 mars à 23 h 48
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Nice bison
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Finally Carolina makes something that might actually help the team
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7 mars à 23 h 48
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Here's what I will say

It looks bad BUT if Guentzel leaves in FA then Pitt wins as while the return sucks if Guentzel they basically paid that for 2 months and Pitts got some prospects do work with

But rn Dubas got fleeced
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7 mars à 23 h 49
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Need to hear some prospect detail from a Canes fan. Surely Dubas is high on at least one of these guys
7 mars à 23 h 49
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Im officially on the fire dubas train. Fire him fire sully and force this god awful ownership conglomerate to sell the dam team. This is so pathetic i cant wait for the pittsburgh pirates to start their season.
7 mars à 23 h 49
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Quoting: LondonNight911
I don't think this is as bad as people online are immediately saying. Pono looks very promising


He does? He's small and not terribly quick, which is not a good combo for making the leap to the NHL.
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7 mars à 23 h 49
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Wow. This is an absolute fleece job by Carolina. I like Koivunen a lot, Lucius is solid, and Ponomarev is alright, but this is Jake freakin' Guentzel we are talking about. Pittsburgh doesnt even get a 1st unless Carolina makes the SCF. Feels like Dubas could've done so much better, guys like Morrow or Blake or Nadeau would've been far more fair.

For Carolina, this is the superstar they have long wanted. Guentzel is one of the best wingers in this league, and they didnt even have to give up any of their best prospects to get him. Excellent addition and he will thrive in Carolina.

For Pittsburgh, I already mentioned I really like Koivunen and I think Bunting next to Crosby will be very fun, but man this is underwhelming. I doubt Ponomarev or Lucius become much more than bottom 6ers, and they arent really guys you want to kick off your rebuild. This is going to be a tough pill to shallow for Pens fans who rightfully expected much more for a guy who gave his all to the organization for years.

The real winners here are NHL fans who are thrilled Vegas didnt land Guentzel. Heres to hoping they strike out on Buchnevich as well!


20 year old putting up .8 ppg in the AHL is ridiculous and he scored two points in two games in NHL this year. How can you think he only has bottom 6 potential??
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7 mars à 23 h 50
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and proud of it
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IT'S NOT VEGAS! HECK YEAH!

Carolina committing highway robbery with this trade though. The Dubas affect continues
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7 mars à 23 h 50
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Not getting a guaranteed 1st is absolutely terrible considering this alleged bidding war. Unless these prospects are the second coming of McJesus, I don't get it. Not an expert but I don't believe any of those are their best.
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He does? He's small and not terribly quick, which is not a good combo for making the leap to the NHL.


Small and not terribly quick sounds exactly like Jake Gunetzel tbf
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7 mars à 23 h 50
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The fact that the Pens couldn’t get a solid 1st round pick for one of their better players screams incompetence on Dubas' part; especially after what Sean Walker fetched for Philly.
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7 mars à 23 h 51
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45 for Norris.
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The Penguins are in trouble…
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