kinda feels like loses around the table in this trade. I dont know if ullmark can carry a team like other vezina calibre goalies. Ottawa has been a graveyard for goalies with good stats for a number of years now and i dont believe this will change. Boston's return for argueably the top tandem in the league is also... not great, korpisalo didnt look great and only saving 2mil a year to downgrade seems bad.

I dont think ottawa gets significantly better
I think boston gets significantly worse for minimum gains

so i guess its a fair deal?

Just getting rid of Korp at a retained 3m was worth for the Sens. Going to interesting how Ullmark does with middling to poor team. His next contract depends on him playing well this season. Doubt if he is being traded but he might be at TDL of the Sens (likely) are "out of it". Ullmark has been poor in his last two playoff seasons, he would like a chance of at redemption.

I'd put money on Ullmark going into next season with a long term extension.

Ottawa notoriously underperformed this year largely due to the worst goaltending in the league. New coach, new GM, new direction for roster building. OTT is gonna push for a playoff spot next year.

Fair Trade when you consider Ullmark puts up great numbers on a great team during the regular season, but doesn’t show up or play as well when it actually matters = The Playoffs

For months, I thought the goalie carousel would turn after July 1st. Man, was I wrong. Buyers got impatient I guess.

Good deal by both teams. Bruins get a backup option (and don’t give a mountain of leverage to Swayman), a little cap space, and a good pick. Senators get a guy that will hopefully be long term answer in net.

Fair trade.

Unless the sens change how they play in front of their goalies it doesn't matter who's in net.

Talbot:
Flames 2.63gaa 919sv
Minny 2 seasons, 2.7gaa, 914sv average
OTT 2.93gaa 898sv
LA 2.5gaa 913sv

Korpisalo:
CLB 3.13gaa 913sv
Ott 3.27gaa 890sv

Gustavsson
OTT 3.55gaa 892
MIN 2.10gaa 930sv
MIN 3.06gaa 899sv

Sens last 4 years hang goalies out to dry. They leave, they have better stats. Green better do something or Ullmark is getting a sub 900 sv. I wanted to see what korpi could do with better team play, and I'll get to see it on Boston. 910 sv% for korpi incoming lol

I wouldn't, I don't think ullmark wants to commit to a team who perennially destroys goalies. IF he resigns, it'll be after he see what's in front of him, and he's gone if it's the same as the last few years

I think the return was so bad because Ullmark isn't willing to extend in Ottawa. He sees this as a chance to bet on himself for one year, then get a big contract somewhere he wants to go next year.

I hate to not have a hot take, but we won't know how this trade goes until we see what happens with Korpisalo. If he shows that he can be a 1A or a 1B, then at 3m with term then the Bruins could easily flip him. In that case, the eventual return would be the 2024 late round 1st + whatever they get for Korpisalo, which would be better than I personally expected for an un-extended Ullmark. If Korpisalo performs poorly, then for the Bruins this trade will be absolutely awful to the point where even if they hadn't included Ullmark in the deal, taking on the Korpi contract for a 1st wouldn't be worth it.

In my opinion, now is definitely a good time for the Bruins to take risks, but I really don't like the idea of taking a potential 4 year risk (or more if it ends in a buyout). We should have a clearer picture of the results of the trade by this time next year. If Korpisalo is still on the team, or if they need to spend assets to get rid of his contract, then it is a big L for Riverboat Donny.

Don't forget Talbot.

He appears to be better as a backup than a started.

Next year, Joonas Korpisalo will have a better save percentage in a backup role than Linus Ullmark will have as the started in Ottawa. They need a better defensive system in front of the goalie.

If Ottawa's defence improves and Ottawa looks like a playoff team, then maybe he signs an extension before the trade deadline.

He isn't on my team anymore, but I still think this narrative is completely ridiculous. Sample size and context matter, but this narrative minimizes both of those things.

If he doesn't resign, nothing is stopping the Senators from flipping him at the deadline while retaining and getting a similar return than what they gave up. It's still a win for the Senators IMO.

Context: On a “Good Team” he puts up great numbers in the Regular Season

Sample Size: He falls apart and has put up weak numbers in virtually “every” North American Professional Hockey League Playoff Game he’s played in

Yeah, I don't know what Dorion was thinking with that contract.

You certainly cherry picked one year of korpisalo there... Do the same prior length as Talbot and get back to us

Fun internet soundbyte.

21/22: Was not good enough, no question. Bruins lost to the better team in both of his starts, but he didn't do enough.
22/23: He played pretty well in 3 of the 6 starts, stats were all solid in those 3. Somewhere along the way, he was injured, and we don't know much more other than the team kept playing him and later said that they shouldn't have. I'd say the last 2 starts were the ones where he was injured, but I admit that I don't know.
23/24: 1 start, best player on the team that night, hard to blame him for any of the 3 goals (in particular, fluke bounce of a stanchion causing defensive breakdowns and a Matthews breakaway stand out as really hard to blame him for). 2nd game was garbage time relief after not playing for 2 weeks.

9.5 games is not much to craft your narrative on, but feel free. We won't know more until he gets more playoff games (if that ever even happens).

The Alfredsson effect

When you realize Boston essentially traded Ullmark for 2 months of Bertuzzi, a cap dump backup, and a fringe NHL forward. 😂

Sogaard and Forsberg are the backups

His team was Columbus.... Columbus. You seem to be ignoring the other examples to 'prove' you're point

Completely agree it's a W for OTT. Horrible deal for BOS. Sweeney must think the 25th overall pick is equal in value to a top ten pick.

Not sure you know what my point is? My point is that korpisalo sucks. Nothing more, nothing less