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Forum: NHL Tradesil y a 4 heures

Sujet: (CBJ/PHI) - Atkinson for Voracek

I think this is a fair deal.

Atkinson is the better goal scorer and Voracek the better passer. Atkinson is a fair bit cheaper on aav but 4 years left vs 3.

Clb probably got the better player at this point in their careers but it's not clear. They took the gamble of a much larger aav for a year less AND someone they probably hope will click with Laine.

Philly cleared a good chunk of cap and still got a good winger.

Trade is a little odd on the surface but I think has the potential to be a good "hockey trade"

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 5 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Big fail for Colorado, not beeing able to sign him for 8 years and missing out on his prime between 28 and 30 y.o.</div></div>

Prime is about 23-27. They got it. They kept the aav lower by allowing him to get a second deal in his 20s. Good deal all around.

Also they have him signed for his 28 year old season.

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 5 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>Makkar wanted to hit the UFA asap, not great for Colorado to not be able to lock him up.</div></div>

UFA would have started at 4 years. Max he could have been signed for is 8 years. They split the difference. If he had gone for 8 years I think the deal was over 10. This seems a good balance.

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 5 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>If Mackinnion is willing to take another Bardgen of a contract then he could stay but based off his play I don’t see it happening</div></div>

Wait it's not even necessary. When I was about to make it I saw they literally have 4 players signed the year he becomes a free agent. Rantanen, Makar, Toews, and Girard. They most assuredly can sign him

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 5 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>If Mackinnion is willing to take another Bardgen of a contract then he could stay but based off his play I don’t see it happening</div></div>

His deal wasn't a bargain when signed. He explodes after. But now I'm going to make an acgm to prove it can be done

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 6 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>His contract is up next season</div></div>

Yeah I get that but this doesn't hand cuff them. You gotta pay for quality. They have 2 other D on good contracts and lots of youth coming up to supplement the team. They'll find room for MacKinnon.

I'm of the opinion that they should let Landy go unless he'll sign for the value of a 20-25 g/55-60 pt winger who is good defensively as that's all he was before MacKinnon became a 90 pt player. I am prepared to bet a fair chunk that Landy will be the next Lucic/Ladd/etc

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 6 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

Also I suspect he left a little money on the table to shorten it to 6 years so he could get another contract in his 20s

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 6 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dzinger18</b></div><div>This is a great deal for a Norris winning defenseman. Sakic making it happen again.</div></div>

He hasn't won a Norris. Josi last year and fox this year

Finalist though.

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 6 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

Great deal

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 6 heures

Sujet: Colorado Avalanche signed Cale Makar (6 Years / $9,000,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>So Landeskog is gone
Mackinnion probably leaves next offseason</div></div>

Why would MacKinnon be gone?

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 9 heures

Sujet: Boston Bruins signed Taylor Hall (4 Years / $6,000,000 AAV)

AAV is great. Term is short. Can't believe he agreed to only 4 years. Very good contract for the Bruins.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 20 heures

Sujet: no left wing

For that cost sure

Forum: NHL Signingsil y a 20 heures

Sujet: Chicago Blackhawks signed Seth Jones (8 Years / $9,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Y-I-K-E-S

Easily the most overpaid player in the league (besides Jeff Skinner)</div></div>

Nah. Neal, erricsson, Ladd, Skinner (as you mentioned), etc all way worse.

Jones is easily a 7-9 million dollar player now. But it won't age well

Forum: NHL Tradesil y a 20 heures

Sujet: (CBJ/CAR) - 2nd round pick for Bean

I think we can all agree than whoever the winner is here, the loser is Seattle

Forum: NHL Tradesil y a 20 heures

Sujet: (CHI/CBJ) - Boqvist, 1st, 1st, 2nd for Jones, 1st, 6th

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>The worst trade in Chicago Blackhawks history.</div></div>

I feel like there has to be worse. Blackhawks have been around a long time. And you're still getting a great player, but yeah, biiiiig payment.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures

Sujet: Sign And Trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>But Rielly is terrific, and we already have him.</div></div>

I'm not really pro trade Rielly but I see the unique circumstances. Muzzin is a legit 1 LD and Sandin and Dermott can handle 2/3. We are cap tight and he's a pending Ufa and can return a good amount. So all that together makes a unique situation where it should at least be considered.

All that being said it's not Sandin that makes it possible it's muzzin.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 23 heures

Sujet: Francis is busy tonight

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>OK but still his options were limited (and you kind of answered your that in a previous post). The lack of arbitration rights really limits a players options to pretty much doing whatever the team wants him to do or just going overseas until the team would trade their rights. You have them under exclusive control for a while so you essentially eradicate all free market value he may have.</div></div>

You limit options not eliminate. Hence it's not truly cost controlled until signed.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 3:09 pm

Sujet: Francis is busy tonight

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>You said it yourself..."He was an arbitration eligible rfa". We are talking about a non arbitration eligible player.</div></div>

Sorry I mean non arbitration eligible. He came right out of elc

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 3:06 pm

Sujet: Francis is busy tonight

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>Yes by definition any player under team control (RFA or under contract) is cost controlled because they aren't arbitration eligible so they will receive a qualifying offer with a set cost.</div></div>

Yeah that's just not true. Look at say Marner. He was an arbitration eligible rfa....

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 2:58 pm

Sujet: Francis is busy tonight

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>And that is what a non arbitration eligible RFA is going to be.</div></div>

He can refuse to sign and go overseas, he can sign an offersheet, he can out negotiate and get an overly large contract, he can sign a one year deal, etc.

He is what he is. A RESTRICTED free agent.

Are KK and Laf cost controlled because they'll be non arbitration eligible rfas in 1 and 2 years?

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 2:51 pm

Sujet: Francis is busy tonight

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>Being a non arbitration eligible RFA is literally the definition of cost controlled.</div></div>

No being signed for term at a fixed cost is

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:16 pm

Sujet: Three Way Trade including Reilly and Seth Jones

That's a REALLLY expensive trade for the leafs. I like Jones and all but are you really saying the difference in value between Rielly and Jones is:
A first
A second
Lily
SDA?

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:12 pm

Sujet: Sign And Trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>Remember in the playoffs when Sandin was the 7th best defenceman for TO? Yeah I think promoting him to top pair over Rielly is a terrific way to go back to having a bad defence.</div></div>

Oh he's totally not ready for 1ld. But muzzin is and challenging one of Dermott/sandin for second pair is reasonable.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:12 pm

Sujet: Sign And Trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>The last thing the Blues would want is to ink Rielly to an 8-year deal. Besides, with him being forced to share PP1 (at best), his value drops quite a bit - both to the team in general and in trade value they'd be willing to pay. My earlier comment was a way of saying that I cannot see this working.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Hard pass.</div></div>

Yeah I just don't see st Louis needing Rielly with Krug on board already.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri at 1:06 pm

Sujet: Francis is busy tonight

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hero9154</b></div><div>I don't think Rangers fans dislike or unappreciation Strome (some might) but in this deal Strome is going to cost more $$$ while Chytil is cost controlled and the Rangers need flexibility with Kakko, Fox, Laffy, etc all needing deals in the next few years.</div></div>

Chytil is an RFA so not really cost controlled... But I see your point to a degree.

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