CMac66

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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 7:45 am
Sujet: Trade so big Columbus gonna point the cannon at me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>Let’s go look at some stats

Werenski- 49.8% corsi, 61 oiGF, 51 oiGA, 41 points and 20 goals
Chabot- 50.1% corsi, 64 oiGF, 85 oiGA, 39 points and 6 goals
Brown- 47.8% corsi, 59 oiGF, 55 oiGA, 43 points and 13 goals
Bjorkstrand- 55.4% corsi, 40 oiGF, 28 oi GA, 36 points and 21 goals
White- 49.2% corsi, 29 oiGF, 38 oiGA, 23 points and 7 goals
Wennberg- 48.6% corsi, 24 oiGF, 30 oiGA, 22 points and 5 goals
Texier- 51% corsi, 19 oiGF, 15 oiGA, 13 points and 6 goals

By the stats collected Werenski and Chabot are very close to the same level. Bjorkstrand is better then Brown. Wennberg and White aren’t that far from each other and then there’s Texier. Oh and SJS 1st is the most valuable thing in the trade that Ottawa won’t trade.

Tbh this is a complete non issue due to the fact that Ottawa won’t move SJS 1st for almost anything and Columbus would rather keep Bjorkstrand after a breakout year. I don’t know why you’re being a dick about a trade that <strong>neither</strong> team wants to do.

This trade is a step back for both teams in the direction they want to go. Columbus wants to be more competitive and Ottawa wants to rebuild. Is the value in the Columbus side sure, do they have any interest in making this trade no, because PLD and Jones would have to be in the trade to get 3rd OA from Ottawa and that’s overkill to get 1 player.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>Cut it out already. Just because it's worse for your team doesn't mean the other team "wins".</div></div>


The sens corsi numbers should suck, they were the second worst team. But I'm not being a dick, I'm just not agreeing and I don't think I've been personally disrespectful towards either of you
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 7:09 pm
Sujet: Trade so big Columbus gonna point the cannon at me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>Honestly Chabot and Werenski are very similar players and on the other team would run the same role as the current player.

Brown vs Bjorkstrand- point wise yes he did have better years but that was in Toronto when he was on a line with Matthews or Tavares. Bjorkstrand is surprisingly underrated and was Columbus best forward last year. PLD has the most points but Bjorkstrand is better defensively and created more chances.

White and Texier are close to the same. I’d tend to give more value to the guy on the ELC, but both can play center and both are top 6 forwards, White is slightly better but Texier is younger and was a rookie last year.

SJS 1st is by far the best thing in the trade and tbh it’s probably worth more then everything else combined as it’s a good shot at Laf or Stutzle, both will be better then anything else in this trade.

Ottawa- They want the draft picks to rebuild and Chabot seems to like it there and want to stay, you don’t trade a guy who can easily be the future captain and cornerstone of your franchise for years to come unless it’s a massive overpayment.

Columbus- Werenski, Bjorkstrand, and Texier are all but as untouchables as PLD, Jones and the other rookies are. Wennberg is just a cap dumb but also a very inexpensive buyout at just 500k.

If you still think Ottawa is the only one who declines you’re incredibly biased. Neither team wants anything to do with this as it’s a step backwards for both of them, plus I’m not sure Columbus can afford said trade cap wise and keep players like PLD on the team.</div></div>

If I'm bias you're just as. But the sens aren't trading a cap dump... And they are trading a top 5 pick. So where's the concession for Columbus? Where does Ottawa make up the value of the top 5 pick and cap bump? Because I don't see it. I like Bjorkstrand and by all accounts Texier looks good. But saying Columbus goes backwards in this trade is ridiculous. The only knock is that the money may not work. But that's not what we're talking about.

Any team that is trading a cap dump and gaining a top 5 pick with relatively equal other pieces going each way is winning the trade. Short and long term. Its not even me being 'bias', I'll concede the equality of the 6 players.
Forum: Armchair-GM19 mai à 7 h 59
Sujet: Trade so big Columbus gonna point the cannon at me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>Neither team is touching this...

SJS 1st&gt;&gt; Chabot/Werenski&gt; Bjorkstrand&gt;&gt; Texier&gt; White&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Wennberg.

Columbus like what they have and Ottawa wants the picks and prospect vs roster players.</div></div>

And by neither you mean Ottawa. Texier is not a more valuable asset than White right now. And Bjorkstrand and White are pretty even. Most people value centres more. I get it, White didn't produce. But no one really did on Ottawa. Plus the 3rd overall, then Wennberg, who no one wants? No Chance. And I forgot Connor Brown was even in this trade. This is horrible for Ottawa. They downgrade in every asset.

Chabot &gt; Werenski - Chabot played the most minutes as a Dman always against the best players in defensive roles
Brown &gt; Bjorkstrand - Better 2 way player and production
White &gt; Texier - hard to evaluate because Texier is just getting his feet wet
SJ 1st &gt; bjorkstrand, texier, wennberg combined.
Forum: Armchair-GM11 mai à 16 h 28
Sujet: A French Connection - Lottery Win
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ajp_18</b></div><div>That’s a no from Columbus. PLD has more value to Columbus then adding KK, Drouin and Juulson. Anderson is equal to the 2nd. If you want PLD the trade includes one of Domi or Danault. Plus KK and a 1st. You’d have to pry in out of Columbus with an offer we don’t even think about accepting, we just accept.</div></div>

It definitely won't be easy to get Dubois. I think he's awesome, and personally it would take a lot to trade him from that perspective. But maybe the threat of an offer sheet changes their minds. It would be great for the Habs fans. The package you said isn't far off from what I put. But I agree, Columbus would have to think about not taking it. I would even add Poehling, and add a 2021 2nd if that would do it. I'm not sure the Habs would add their 2021 1st unless it was top 10 protected.
Forum: Armchair-GM 4 mai à 9 h 10
Sujet: Let me explain
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>firezfurx</b></div><div>The idea is he's a good enough starter for a few years before a CBO (if they don't get a CBO it doesn't make sense) and they get picks and young players while there at it. Bob is also a large enough name, and with the proper marketing and reporting he could become something that brings fans back in.</div></div>

What's going to bring fans back is the development of Tkachuk, Chabot, this year's 2 picks. The only goalies that had/have that kind of power is Price, lundqvist in his prime, Brodeur, Roy.
But the worst part of this is that contract. Hope for a cbo? What kind of business decision is that? Imagine selling that to any owner... OK we're going to take on an 80m contract in the hope we market him well, then in 4 years we will pay him 30m of your money not to play for us. Come on
Forum: Armchair-GM 2 mai à 10 h 14
Sujet: Let me explain
There's not really an explanation for taking Bobrovsky. Especially when Hogberg was performing well. What does that say to the players if they go out and buy an under performing player after one in their own organization put up similar numbers?

Even if I agreed that they didn't get fans because of not having big names, Bobrovsky isn't a big enough name to change anything. But the problem isn't names. It's the fact they traded Karlsson, Duchene, more importantly Mark stone and the hatred for Melnyuk. Fans thought maybe one would stay. Didn't happen. The team was going to suck this year and their favourite players were gone. Emphasis on the team being bad. Even Toronto didn't sell out during their tear down. People want to see good teams. And when the sens had good teams, they sold out.
Tkachuk and Chabot have emerged as those players so it won't be long till they get the fans back in there.