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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #9 - The Demise (Revival?) of Calgary

26 juill. 2022 à 16 h 56
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Really don’t understand this take lol. A team with two 1Cs and a Norris caliber defenseman isn’t missing the playoffs. And that’s leaving out that they added one of the best wingers in the game


Is Reinhart the other 1C? Cause he's more of a RW. Unless your talking Lundell...but he is not really a 1C.
26 juill. 2022 à 16 h 58
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Is Reinhart the other 1C? Cause he's more of a RW. Unless your talking Lundell...but he is not really a 1C.


Lundell is going to be a star as soon as next season. He has the makeup of an elite two way 1C
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 0
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Lundell is going to be a star as soon as next season. He has the makeup of an elite two way 1C


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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 2
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Barkov #2.


Yes. A top 6 of this for at least the next 2 years is great to work off of

Verhaeghe-Barkov-Tkachuk
? -Lundell-Reinhart

Defense needs work but they still have one of the best defenseman in the game and knight should break out in the next few years
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 6
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They're putting a Dustin Brown statue next to Kobe & Gretzky


One of these things is not like the other

One of these things doesn't belong
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 8
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Seems like signing Gud led to Gaudreau, I’d take that all day if I’m CBJ
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 12
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Bold Take. Buffalo finished within a couple games of the wild card. Beats Boston, Detroit and MTL in there division.

Everyone has them a bottom 3 eastern conference team. Which is a decline from where they where last year, 6th worst. Detroit and Ottowa are better on paper so that leaves us at 4th best. The thing about the sabres last year is that they really had 2 different seasons, the 55 games to start the season where the whole team was in shambles with injuries to a lot of starters and our top 4 goalies. And then the 30 Games to end the season when they actually had the team they wanted to play.

The first 55 games we where a bottom 4 team in the whole NHL. With 40 points in there first 55 games on pace to finish with 60 points.
The next 28 games we finished with 35 points, was a top 15 team in the NHL on pace to finish with 103 points.

Here is the NHL roster from last year.
Skinner - Thompson - Tuch
Krebs - Cozens - Hinnestroza
Asplund - Mittelstadt - Olofsson
Girgensons - Eakin - Okposo

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Pysyk - Jokiharju
Bryson - Fitzgerald

Anderson - Tokarski

Here is the Projected NHL Roster for this year.
Skinner - Thompson - Quinn
Krebs - Cozens - Tuch
Peterka - Mittelstadt - Olofsson
Asplund - Girgensons - Okposo

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Power - Lybushkin
Bryson - Jokiharju

Comrie - Anderson

If the Sabres can get AVERAGE goaltending we would be increasing from .894 to .910 which would be a massive help. Comrie probably helps with that, UPL if he could break in full time to the NHL would be a big help, and Anderson just sucks.

The Sabres on Defense are gaining Power and Lybushkin which is a great add, that second pairing alone will dramatically increase how good our defense is, sheltering Bryson and Jokijarju a bit and letting Dahlin get more freedom in the Ozone.

The Forward core is replacing Eakin, and Hinnestroza with Quinn and Peterka which should help with scoring and spreading out our depth throughout all 4 lines.

So you add Comrie, Power, Lybushkin, Quinn, and Peterka to replace Tokarski, Pysyk, Fitzgerald, Eakin, and Hinnestroza to a team that already was on pace for 103 points does this team finish with 90-105 points and challenge for a wild card spot? Maybe pass Boston this year.

The Sabres Potentially have 10 top 6 forwards in the lineup. 3 first pair defenders, and a horrible Dpair lol

I think you’re really overrating a hot stretch for the Sabres. Your goalies are Comrie, Anderson, and Subban, so your ask for league average goaltending is likely not even in the right ballpark (I reckon that’s a bottom 5 goalie roster at best). And like, I’m pretty sure the Sens finished hot too. I think Florida didn’t. Calling the Sabres a 103 point pace team because of a hot streak at the end of the year when they were already long out of the playoff conversation is pretty flawed, it seems like there is a lot of room for regression there. And like, you should know better than anyone that the season is 82 games long lol, the Savres always throw down a random 10 game winning streak in November and then plummet back to earth. Bottom tier goaltending and a very inexperienced defense group will mean you’re letting in a lot of goals, and you’re also banking on a lot of rookies to transition perfectly to the NHL and make an immediate impact up front, which rarely happens. They’ll be there in a couple years, but there are just too many things that need to go perfectly, and the most important (goaltending) would be the most surprising if it was even close to league average.
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 16
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 17
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JESUS CHRIST CAN KADRI AND KLINGBERG JUST SIGN SOMEWHERE SO I CAN MAKE MY SEASON PREDICTIONS FFS


Watch the Stars trade Robertson and Oettinger to fit both of them in
26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 18
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Watch the Stars trade Robertson and Oettinger to fit both of them in


The money would be insufficient still.
26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 18
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The money would be insufficient still.


Heiskanen then
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 20
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Heiskanen then


F*ck you tears of joy
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 24
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Never would I have guessed NYI to be the most draft-heavy team.

Then again aside from Romanov literally all of their D-men are Isles draftees.
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 27
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Really don’t understand this take lol. A team with two 1Cs and a Norris caliber defenseman isn’t missing the playoffs. And that’s leaving out that they added one of the best wingers in the game


Not a fan of teams that are top heavy and don’t have a lot of good depth
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 31
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Not a fan of teams that are top heavy and don’t have a lot of good depth


They have great forward depth. Bennett will be the 3C. Nick cousins , lomberg, white , Balcers are very good 3rd line wingers
26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 34
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Wow that’s pretty sad for the Kings
26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 34
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Not a fan of teams that are top heavy and don’t have a lot of good depth


Hello
26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 35
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JESUS CHRIST CAN KADRI AND KLINGBERG JUST SIGN SOMEWHERE SO I CAN MAKE MY SEASON PREDICTIONS FFS


Replace Season predictions with 32 teams off-season ( post draft ) grades and that’s me
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 35
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They have great forward depth. Bennett will be the 3C. Nick cousins , lomberg, white , Balcers are very good 3rd line wingers


Some of them will end up in top6 tho as Duclair is out for a while and Horny likely gets dealt for a D-man (for cap reasons).

Could see FLA trying lines like these

Verhaeghe - Barkov - White
Tkachuk - Bennett - Balcers
Denisenko - Lundell - Reinhart
Lomberg - Luostarinen - Cousins
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 37
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Hello


Yes one of the teams that came to mind when I wrote that
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 37
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Some of them will end up in top6 tho as Duclair is out for a while and Horny likely gets dealt for a D-man (for cap reasons).

Could see FLA trying lines like these

Verhaeghe - Barkov - White
Tkachuk - Bennett - Balcers
Denisenko - Lundell - Reinhart
Lomberg - Luostarinen - Cousins


My biggest issue with this team is White, Balcers and Denisenko. We’ll see if Denisenko is good enough to stick.
26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 39
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Some of them will end up in top6 tho as Duclair is out for a while and Horny likely gets dealt for a D-man (for cap reasons).

Could see FLA trying lines like these

Verhaeghe - Barkov - White
Tkachuk - Bennett - Balcers
Denisenko - Lundell - Reinhart
Lomberg - Luostarinen - Cousins


That’s possible , I would go with these lines

Balcers-Barkov-Tkachuk
Verhaeghe-Lundell-Reinhart
Denisenko-Bennett-White
Lomberg-Luostarainen-Cousins
26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 41
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Never would I have guessed NYI to be the most draft-heavy team.

Then again aside from Romanov literally all of their D-men are Isles draftees.


Sabres should have 11 as soon as they move up Peterka. If where lucky we could get to 13 this year. With UPL and Ryan Johnson.
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 46
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My biggest issue with this team is White, Balcers and Denisenko. We’ll see if Denisenko is good enough to stick.


Denisenko is fair, white at worst will be a low end 3rd liner. Balcers profiles similar to Verhaeghe before he signed with Florida. I’m not saying Balcers will have the same impact , but Balcers has breakout potential and his floor is high
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26 juill. 2022 à 17 h 48
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Denisenko is fair, white at worst will be a low end 3rd liner. Balcers profiles similar to Verhaeghe before he signed with Florida. I’m not saying Balcers will have the same impact , but Balcers has breakout potential and his floor is high


We will also see if Bennett can play great without Huberdeau. And see if Verhaege can keep it up.
 
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