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Tampa Bay Lightning signed Mikhail Sergachev (3 Years / $4,800,000 AAV)

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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 38
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Mikhail Sergachev has signed a new contract with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
CONTRAT STANDARD
Comparable ContractsCOMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 3 ANS
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: RFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Lightning de Tampa BayLightning de Tampa Bay
VALEUR: 14 400 000 $
% DU C.H. : 5,89
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 25 novembre 2020
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERF. BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2020-214 800 000 $4 800 000 $0 $1 500 000 $900 000 $2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
2021-224 800 000 $4 800 000 $0 $1 500 000 $3 300 000 $4 800 000 $4 800 000 $
2022-234 800 000 $4 800 000 $0 $0 $7 200 000 $7 200 000 $7 200 000 $
TOTAL14 400 000 $14 400 000 $0 $3 000 000 $11 400 000 $14 400 000 $14 400 000 $
25 nov 2020 à 15 h 39
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nice
25 nov 2020 à 15 h 39
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Perfect deal for both sides! I used McAvoy as a comparable in my predictions, pretty spot on.
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 39
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not bad but not great either.

Should have been 5.5 x 6 years but meh

cause man his QA at 7.2mill in 3 years could really hurt
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 40
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F*CK YES let's goooooo

That was so important contract.
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 40
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I been saying they’re gonna make everyone scratch their heads with great moves. Great management, and scouting. Plus now the teams buying in - they’re tryna be a modern dynasty which is even crazier considering we got COVID cap.
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 40
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Definitely could've got more.
25 nov 2020 à 15 h 41
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Great deal, but now it's gonna be interesting how they fit it all under the cap.
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 41
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Great signing, would've gotten more if Covid hadn't hit or if Tampa wasn't in cap hell since they are now over the cap
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 42
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So much for taking a discount to keep the team together and all the other bull**** people peddle on this site about Tampa and contracts. No tax and player buy in really helping them get essentially the same aav contract to two other Dmen with better contract influences (TOI and production being the #1 and #2 things that affect contract value in Dmen) as well as a high 3rd year for a QA all in a pandemic affected market.

Its a fine contract and like all young stars he's likely plays to it and outperforms it but this is at best market rate, and certainly the low end of it considering comparables.
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 45
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McAvoy money.

Im shocked, SHOCKED! ... Well, not that shocked.
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 48
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Quoting: mondo
Definitely could've got more.


no he couldn't have. He got Deangelo's deal. It's fair value, no home team discount or whatever here.

I am shocked they didn't wait on this till mid season. Getting guys on QO and then doing the old signing bonus extension would have been much easier to do knowing that cap was going to open up next year.
They would have had a little higher AVA on those years, but it would be worth it.
Now they are painting themselves into a corner.
25 nov 2020 à 15 h 49
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Its pretty mint.
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Fair contract. So now Tampa is about $2 million over the cap. If they trade Killorn they can sign Cernak, and after that either Cirelli or one of the full NTC players would need to be traded.
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 50
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Quoting: aadoyle
not bad but not great either.

Should have been 5.5 x 6 years but meh


No way 5.5m gets you 6 years of Sergachev....

Provorov and Morrissey are the closest comparables. 6.25-6.75 AAV

This is a great deal for the Lightning as they couldn't afford a long term deal
25 nov 2020 à 15 h 51
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Quoting: pharrow
no he couldn't have. He got Deangelo's deal. It's fair value, no home team discount or whatever here.

I am shocked they didn't wait on this till mid season. Getting guys on QO and then doing the old signing bonus extension would have been much easier to do knowing that cap was going to open up next year.
They would have had a little higher AVA on those years, but it would be worth it.
Now they are painting themselves into a corner.


If they didn't think that they could deal their guys, they wouldn't have signed Sergachev, I don't think. It makes me wonder who they have lined up something with?
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25 nov 2020 à 15 h 57
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so proper
25 nov 2020 à 16 h 00
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Quoting: Hockyluv21
If they didn't think that they could deal their guys, they wouldn't have signed Sergachev, I don't think. It makes me wonder who they have lined up something with?


yeah this is the thing it really comes down too, and at what cost?
If they pushed it back, you look at Seattle taking a guy and it opens up room, you then move a guy like Palat on the final year of his deal, probably not that expensive. right?

But now they got to move a guy with term.
I would think McDonagh is the guy they want to move. But that's a big cap hit. Maybe they take some back to avoid retaining.
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25 nov 2020 à 16 h 12
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Literally the perfect opportunity for a team to offer sheet Cirelli. COVID cap + GM's being boring won't let it happen though sadly.
25 nov 2020 à 16 h 21
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Huge overpay.
25 nov 2020 à 16 h 23
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I'm just glad GMs are doing stuff again
25 nov 2020 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Huge overpay.


Defensemen get paid for points, not for, you know, actual defensive ability. So this seems fair.
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25 nov 2020 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: ZiggyPalffy
Huge overpay.


How it's either a fair contract or an underpayment
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25 nov 2020 à 16 h 51
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who all get's moved for this contract to fit in??? I think Cirelli gets around the same...
25 nov 2020 à 16 h 56
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
who all get's moved for this contract to fit in??? I think Cirelli gets around the same...


Well i think Tampa only signed him since they have a way to get back under the cap but easy ways to get under the cap would be to trade Coburn, Paquette, Killorn, Johnson
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25 nov 2020 à 16 h 59
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
How it's either a fair contract or an underpayment


Sarcasm
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