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Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 5:27 pm
Sujet: Offseason Moves - San Jose Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawZuccSauce420</b></div><div>Yeah I get it for sure from CAR’s perspective. Honestly I wouldn’t be too tilted about losing Hamilton though. If he wants to sign for max term and 9+ million a year, you guys are probably better off letting him go in the long term. But I <em>really</em> don’t see Lysell or Robertsson going that low in the draft. Like obviously yes snatch them ASAP if they do, but I would have them at least top ~16ish. But what do I know I’m not a pro scout or NHL GM lol. You could be right.</div></div>

Lysell and Robertsson are both pretty polarizing in the scouting community because neither have gotten a lot of ice time in the SHL, and there have been rumors of personality clashes with coaches in Lysell's case. Some guys are also not fans of Robertsson's skating, though I strongly disagree with that. Every time I've watched them play against guys around their age group, they always came across as some of the smartest and most skilled players out there.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 5:07 pm
Sujet: Offseason Moves - San Jose Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawZuccSauce420</b></div><div>I agree the consensus on guys like Lysell and Robertsson isn’t uniform (although I agree Lysell is top 10 deserving). But other than those guys its pretty clear that the top-7 will be Power, Beniers, Eklund, Edvinsson, Guenther, Hughes and Clarke. I’m comfortable staying at our draft position and taking pretty much any one of those guys. And even with that you still have Lysell and Wallstedt on the table which I’m fine with as well.</div></div>

That is true. I only posted the Karlsson idea, however, as a potential deal to make if Dougie leaves in a sign-and-trade (which looks like, at least right now, the only other potential outcome besides a re-signing). I bet that Carolina jumps all over either Lysell or Robertsson if they fall to #26 (with the latter a far likelier scenario considering McKenzie's and Pronman's boards).
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:50 pm
Sujet: Offseason Moves - San Jose Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawZuccSauce420</b></div><div>If you actually look at it more closely, it’s only a “crapshoot-y” draft once you drop out of the top 10. Sure, there aren’t nearly as many high end prospects as in previous drafts, but there will be legit talent at 7. That’s just not the case for the Carolina pick. Plus Karlsson isn’t even worth dumping for us since we know we’d have to retain a bunch and pay a premium to get rid of him. No reason to do it. And I’d rather see Burns gone anyway.</div></div>

I actually see the top 10 as extremely crapshoot-y as well. For example, I have Lysell and Robertsson in my personal top ten, but a lot of scouts, including Pronman, have them going either in the late-first or early-2nd.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu at 4:40 pm
Sujet: Offseason Moves - San Jose Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>yikes</b></div><div>Yeah the whole trade Karlsson plus our first for Gardiner, using Barrie to replace him and all of that is just really pointless.

Keep Karlsson and our much needed first. Don’t sign Barrie it’s pointless.

We don’t really save money by retaining Karlsson, signing Barrie to a huge potential bust contract, and taking Gardiner. And it’s likely we barely get better, if not worse.

Barrie had 23 pp points with the BEST offensive players in the world. He is not getting near that on SJS. Don’t see an incentive here to do this.

Just trading Karlsson for the sake of trading Karlsson. And we lose a good pick we need.</div></div>

You're moving 19 spots down in a crapshoot-y draft, not dealing a first away. This may be the best possible draft to have a late 1st round pick because the scouting is so all-over-the-place this year. And you're clearing huge amounts of long-term cap.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:18 pm
Sujet: Offseason Moves - Los Angeles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>LA had numerous other defensive options for LHD last season. Clague, Maatta, and MacDermid were all defensemen that where higher on the depth chart at the beginning of the season. Bjornfot came in and impressed everyone and stole the spot from under them. He has earned his spot in the NHL.

That being said, the Kings could use an improvement at 1LD. It's a significantly higher priority than looking for a 2RD to play behind Doughty. If Columbus makes Werenski available, then LA should consider offering up a sizeable package for him. I'd kick the tires on Jones in UFA, but I wouldn't offer him the contract you list here. If he can get more to play elsewhere, let him go.</div></div>

I was thinking of Seth Jones and Doughty as a 1A/1B setup, similar to how Carolina has Hamilton and Pesce essentially working as two number one defensemen. Jones may even get more minutes on average than Doughty despite nominally being on "the 2nd Pair".
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:03 pm
Sujet: Offseason Moves - Los Angeles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>LA wouldn't have burned a year off his ELC at age 19 if they didn't feel he was ready for the NHL. He's likely not a 1LD, but neither are Leddy or Graves. He was pursued by LA for his leadership abilities, and I have him penciled in as the next captain of the Kings once Kopitar retires. Doughty raves about the kid. He's going to play 20+ minutes in 82 games next season.</div></div>

I may be thinking more like the Canes than the Kings here, TBF. LA may not have the luxury to coddle and caress their young defensemen in the same way that they do over here in Raleigh. If Bjornfot was a Canes prospect and not a Kings prospect, his ELC likely would've been slid twice and not once and he'd be with our AHL affiliate for a 2nd full season.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 12:54 pm
Sujet: Offseason Moves - Los Angeles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>You would risk Turcotte, Roy, and Anderson, with the hope that he will reup with the Kings so they can get one additional year? So in the worst case scenario of this, the Kings get one year of Jones and lose three of their youngest promising players?</div></div>

Yes, I would. The reason is because even if Jones declines the 8th year and leaves, there are numerous other options in next year's UFA market to improve the team even if Jones departs. Cap space has value in this league, too. Sometimes taking the next step involves taking big risks. Canes did a similar thing when they traded two major young pieces for Dougie, even knowing that he could depart for UFA in three seasons. Sometimes the risk is worth it to get your man, especially when you have a ridiculously loaded farm system like the Kings do.