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Armchair-GM
il y a 14 heures
Sujet:
LW for an RD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>huey2107</b></div><div>Based off the reports of what CAL had to give up to get Monahan off the books, there is going to be nothing going back in a Barrie deal.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>xercuses</b></div><div>wennberg was trash too so its more a need for a need but i think folgele gets moved</div></div>
The ONLY reason for Edmonton to move Barrie is for cap relief. This deal gives them 2 crap players and $100k cap savings, so no deal.
Barrie has bee good for Edmonton, and he's been a positive player (GF% Rel) in every season of his past 9 except for the one in Toronto. He's not overpaid, he's not underperforming. They aren't moving him for nothing.
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NHL Signings
il y a 15 heures
Sujet:
Calgary Flames signed Nazem Kadri (7 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
BOA just got better!
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NHL Signings
il y a 15 heures
Sujet:
Calgary Flames signed Nazem Kadri (7 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CJets</b></div><div>I’m torn on this. On one hand, I love the AAV, but on the other hand, I hate the term</div></div>
Yup. I just realized that Kadri turns 32 right at the beginning of the season... that 7 year term looks painful.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 19 heures
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>The difference here, TO can do it with anyone that wants it. And the taxes in Ontario are the same as Alberta. Income tax is the same across Canada. This is a known fact. The only difference is Alberta doesn't have HST. PST and GST are seperate and the PST is lower in Alberta than Ontario. That is all about purchasing things. Which doesn't make any difference. This is just overblown nonsense. TO has more money than Edmonton will ever have, they have more money than any team has. That results in major resources for the players, support staff, equipment, sports science departments, trainers, skills trainers etc etc. TO out spends everyone. Which makes up the difference between taxes.
As I have mentioned this is just the media saying stuff to get bitter fickle fans who hate the Leafs fired up. You guys dream of seeing the Leafs burn more than you dream of winning. It's hilarious</div></div>
You should spend 5 seconds Googling provincial tax rates. You're clueless.
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Armchair-GM
il y a 19 heures
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>Also that is absolutely wrong. Whether you are in a tax free state or not, getting money up front instead of over the long term allows for major investment that means more money long term. A moderate investment fund will see a 8% return, a better fund could be much much higher. Meaning the 30 million matthews got upfront could have made him millions more already while other guys are getting smaller checks each year.</div></div>
Once again, he didn't get $30M up front. Look at his contract breakdown for goodness sake - I even posted the link for you. This isn't hard!
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Armchair-GM
il y a 19 heures
Sujet:
Oilers 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Timmah007</b></div><div>Chychrun is tough to know what your getting because the team has been horrible for basically his entire career. Is he just lip stick on a pig the best of a bad bunch? I don't even know that so my interest in him is non existent based off the speculated ask.</div></div>
Yeah, it's not easy to get a read on players like that, I agree. People tend to dismiss any negative results by blaming the team... but when his own coaches are playing defensive stalwarts (sarcasm alert!) like Gostisbehere and Stralman in harder situations, that's a massive, MASSIVE red flag to me. You can't just hand-wave that away.
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Armchair-GM
il y a 20 heures
Sujet:
Oilers 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Homesick</b></div><div>He's a 1st pairing defenseman making half of what Nurse makes for the next 3 years. Its going to hurt</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>He isn't a 1st pairing guy though. All of Mayo, Gostisbehere and Stralman played harder minutes than he did last season. All three players played a greater % of their TOI vs Elites, they all had worse zone starts v Elites and all were on for more faceoffs v Elites. He was sheltered.</div></div>
<a href="http://puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20212022&tier=Elite&positions=d&team=ari&group_by=player_season_team&sort=ctoipct&sort_direction=desc" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">puckiq.com </a>
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Armchair-GM
il y a 20 heures
Sujet:
Get some Pionk rumors started
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ceeque84</b></div><div>Nah. Gags had a better yr than Ryan last season playing in all situations on a **** team. He is 2 yrs younger, and of course because... pure nostalgia... I think the main issue with Gagner in Edmonton is that some fans still think he should be putting up 20+ goals. Thats not at all what they would bring him back for. 4th line, who COULD move up IF needed because of injuries. Vet who loved playing in Edmonton and most importantly, would provide all of this for a minimum cap hit. Guys like Ryan & Janmark making $1.2mill to do what they do is such a waste. Holland has had a pretty great offseason, but handing Janmark $1.2 when they are in a situtation where pretty much every 100k counts, was just stupid. If he really wanted Janmark I'm sure he could have been had for a solid $300k-500k less, i highly doubt his agents phone was ringing off the hook in this cap strapped market.</div></div>
Last season was an outlier for Gagner though, you can't seriously expect him to repeat that next season. I mean, he hasn't scored 21 points at 5v5 since 16-17! If you look at the past 3 seasons you'll see that Ryan is the better player and that it's not particularly close.
<a href="http://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=std&rate=n&p1=8478585&p2=8474040&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Ryan v Gagner</a>
<a href="http://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20192020&thruseason=20212022&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&p1=8478585&p2=8474040&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Ryan v Gagner on ice</a>
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Armchair-GM
il y a 20 heures
Sujet:
Jets Blow it up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Funny that the Ehlers and Connor trades are the worst ones for the Jets.. lol 😆</div></div>
I was thinking that as I scrolled down - damn some if these are cheap!" Then I got to the Edmonton deal... no dice, pal!
The Dubois return is low too.
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Armchair-GM
il y a 20 heures
Sujet:
Oilers 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Homesick</b></div><div>He's a 1st pairing defenseman making half of what Nurse makes for the next 3 years. Its going to hurt</div></div>
He isn't a 1st pairing guy though. All of Mayo, Gostisbehere and Stralman played harder minutes than he did last season. All three players played a greater % of their TOI vs Elites, they all had worse zone starts v Elites and all were on for more faceoffs v Elites. He was sheltered.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 20 heures
Sujet:
Get some Pionk rumors started
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ceeque84</b></div><div>Id actually just bury Ryan in the A tbh.</div></div>
Ryan > Gagner.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 21 heures
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>Did you just ignore that Matthews made 30+ of his contract in his first 2 years? That's the point I am making. Marner, Nylander etc etc all get most of their money at the start in bonus money. Draisaitl didn't, Nurse doesn't. Most teams can't afford it</div></div>
Draisaitl got a similar bonus to Matthews this summer, Nurse gets a $12M salary this year.
Front loading is nothing new, lots of teams do it. It just makes the contract cheaper on the back end. For instance, Matthews and Tavares are earning just $7.95M each this season while Marner and Rielly are making $8M each. That's significantly less than their combined cap hits.
The other part of the equation that you're missing is that Leafs players do this to decrease their tax burden, not simply because MLSE can afford it. If Matthews played in a so-called tax-free state he wouldn't need to structure his contract in such a manner, as it would make very little difference to his final take home pay. The tax issue in Ontario is real.
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Armchair-GM
il y a 21 heures
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>That response shows a complete lack of understanding of how bonus money works. Matthews gets a major portion of his money up front. So does Marner, JT, Rielly, even Kerfoot did as well. So technically they have been paying way more than 82.5 million in actual dollars. Few teams if any can match the reserve money the Leafs have.</div></div>
The bonuses are paid out annually, as you can see from each players page right here on CF.
Matthews got a <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/players/auston-matthews">$7.2M bonus this summer.</a>
McDavid got a <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/players/connor-mcdavid">$11M bonus this summer.</a>
According to their respective pages linked above, Matthews' contract includes $54.52M in total bonus money while McDavid's includes $86M in total bonus money.
So you're clearly wrong in both your understanding of how bonuses work and your assessment of other teams ability to pay such bonuses.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 22 heures
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>I may have quoted the wrong guy. But my points stand, TO's ability to hand out major bonuses makes up for taxes. There isn't another team that can afford to give so much in bonus money.</div></div>
Well, that's not true. Many teams have an $82.5M payroll, it hardly matters whether that gets paid in July or spread throughout the year. There would be a few cash-poor clubs that might struggle with this, but they're the exception, not the rule.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 22 heures
Sujet:
Matthews does a year in Edmonton before going to Arizonas new arena in 2025-26
The PP would be lethal.
I'm pretty sure any coach with this roster would run either Matthews or Draisaitl with McDavid. It's simply too tempting.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 22 heures
Sujet:
Matthews does a year in Edmonton before going to Arizonas new arena in 2025-26
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ceeque84</b></div><div>Come on, at least play Drai with McD if this is happening. And reunite Hyman with Matthews.
Pass on P Kane, Stasny, Perry & resigning Koekoek- Use that money to get a solid shutdown RHD because this D does not cut it.
Yamo at C is a joke right?</div></div>
And the guy claims to be an Oilers fan...
Where is Holloway? Bourgault? These guys are guaranteed to be in the team in 24-25. They'll be better than Perry and Statsny easily.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 22 heures
Sujet:
HABS
Edmonton and Vegas both decline, for obvious reasons. You've got it backwards: Montreal is the bottom-feeder that should be taking on bad contracts.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 23 heures
Sujet:
Bring Sam back
Edmonton should decline the Dallas trade and the Gagner signing. Both make the team worse.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 23 heures
Sujet:
fixing the bruins
Edmonton declines hard.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 23 heures
Sujet:
Get some Pionk rumors started
Paying to move Ryan's contract just to turn around and sign Gagner is a really odd move. I expect better from you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 23 heures
Sujet:
The Top 20 Centres 3 Years From Now
Draisaitl should be higher. There's no reason to think that Barkov will somehow leapfrog him in the next 3 years - they're the same age. Bedard might, but he'll have just turned 20 so even that's a stretch.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 23 heures
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>Doesn't matter when you're entire check comes as a bonus. The interest on investing that lump sum alone is more than they'll make elsewhere. And the endorsement money doesn't get bigger than what you get as the face of the Leafs. The whole Matthews wants to leave crap is just media spewing stuff to get trolls like you fired up. It's pretty funny</div></div>
:tearsofjoy
Where did I say anything about Matthews wants to leave?? You're seeing ghosts!
But the tax situation is indiputable and exactly why guys like Matthews and McDavid have bonus-laden contracts, as they live elsewhere in the offseason and pay taxes in that jurisdiction (AZ, probably) on their bonuses.
There are lots of good reasons to live in Toronto, but the taxes aren't one of them.
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Armchair-GM
Hier à 19 h 49
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logan_Ollivier</b></div><div>The difference is one of those cities is in Alberta the other is the biggest city in Canada and the biggest market for hockey on the planet.</div></div>
And the highest taxes in the NHL - yay!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 18 h 8
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_gobbler</b></div><div>Not the playoffs.. all that really matters</div></div>
Hilarious how much 'former Leafs having playoff success in Edmonton' and 'McDavid envy' is getting Leafs fans panties in a knot. Love it!
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Armchair-GM
Hier à 16 h 52
Sujet:
VR Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kster34</b></div><div>I will write slowly for you - it’s easier to put up points in the puff powder pacific where you play majority of your games.
Oil record vs division in 2022:
Oil vs Atl - 40.6% of points available
Oil vs central - 60.4%
Oil vs metro - 62.5%
Oil vs Puffcific - 80.7%
Same goes for other teams in the puff division.
You win at twice the rate in puffcific vs Atlantic!
Btw, Leafs are also 12-3 against you head to head in past 5 years.
Enjoy the pacific while you can b/c as soon as you leave, game over :cool</div></div>
Small sample size.
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