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Armchair-GM
ven. à 14 h 38
Sujet:
oilers offseason 23-24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_gobbler</b></div><div>not exactly sure where you're getting these numbers from</div></div>
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 13 h 52
Sujet:
oilers offseason 23-24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gary_gobbler</b></div><div>ppg player on a bad flyers team for 2.75, I only added the second because the firsts are a year away and the other is 2 years away, their also practically high 2nd round picks.</div></div>
It's a waste of assets for a marginal improvement over Foegele.
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Armchair-GM
ven. à 13 h 51
Sujet:
OS Bouchard
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>"It's not enough money"
$53 million dollars isn't enough money? I think he'd like $53 mil over the $3 mil the Oilers are going to offer him.</div></div>
The cap is about to rise significantly 1 year from now. He'll get a lot more money then if he signs a 1-year bridge now.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 13 h 49
Sujet:
My Take on Next Year
You might find this interesting:
<a href="https://oilersnation.com/news/analyzing-potential-rd-trade-targets-for-the-edmonton-oilers" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://oilersnation.com/news/analyzing-potential-rd-trade-targets-for-the-edmonton-oilers</a>
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Armchair-GM
ven. à 13 h 23
Sujet:
OS Bouchard
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>Do the Oilers plan on paying him in peanuts or something because you can't afford that price.</div></div>
I don't think he'd sign it, making your point moot. It's not enough money for a 7 year term and Philadelphia sucks.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 13 h 21
Sujet:
oilers offseason 23-24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilersfan150</b></div><div>Waaaaay to much for konecny.</div></div>
Yeah, that's just insane. Konecny (2.26 P/60) is better than Foegele (2.09 P/60), but THREE 1STS + 2ND + 6TH better??? Not close.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
ven. à 13 h 15
Sujet:
OS Bouchard
Why would Bouchard sign that though? His long term value is likely higher right now and PHI isn't exactly a prime destination.
Forum:
NHL Trades
ven. à 13 h 9
Sujet:
(EDM/NYR) - 2023 5th (EDM) for Grubbe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oilersguy</b></div><div>No, he would have re-entered the draft if left unsigned</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>I think he goes back into the draft if he's unsigned</div></div>
Oh, okay, that makes sense. I was thinking he would've been a free agent.
Forum:
NHL Trades
mer. à 17 h 32
Sujet:
(EDM/NYR) - 2023 5th (EDM) for Grubbe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mk458</b></div><div>They must have been 100% sure he'd sign then, looks like Edmonton got the deal done already</div></div>
Sure did. So it begs the question: why not wait until tomorrow and keep their 5th? For this reason I can't call this a win for Edmonton.
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NHL Trades
mer. à 16 h 57
Sujet:
(EDM/NYR) - 2023 5th (EDM) for Grubbe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>Yes, however, he might've signed with another team if he reached FA, Edmonton most likely wanted to guarantee the signing</div></div>
I don't know why they would risk the 5th if they weren't 99% confident that he would sign with them though.
Forum:
NHL Trades
mer. à 16 h 42
Sujet:
(EDM/NYR) - 2023 5th (EDM) for Grubbe
Couldn't Edmonton have just waited until tomorrow to sign him without spending the 5th? Or am I mistaken about that?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 16 h 23
Sujet:
Deal with Defence now Forwards in season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aussie_Blackhawk</b></div><div>Out of curiosity, whats your take on Broberg? From the outside seems as though he's not quite gone the way expected. Too soon to give up on him yes but do you feel there would be a scenario where you use him to dump some cap and gain some draft capital in the process?</div></div>
I don't see it, personally. Holland really likes him, so much that he refused to include him in a potential Chychrun trade. And Broberg has been very good in limited minutes so far.
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Armchair-GM
25 mai à 18 h 10
Sujet:
Deal with Defence now Forwards in season
Edmonton declines. That's a massive overpay for Murphy, who likely wouldn't be a good partner for Nurse due to weak rush defense / poor zone entry denial.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 17 h 11
Sujet:
winnipeg tears it ALL down
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SKWPG</b></div><div>and I've saved my best reaction for last....
EDM / WPG - ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND????? Morrissey is as close to untouchable as a player can be on WPG. He's the last player they trade unless they get something CRAZY back in return. Are you with the Oilers? That's a garbage return for the best WPG JET. Like... GARBAGE. You just got fired and no one ever hires you for anything other than delivering pizza on that trade.</div></div>
On the other side of that coin, Edmonton isn't really interested in Morrissey either. They already have a bunch of LHD under contract for the next few years: Nurse, Ekholm, Kulak and Broberg.
Also, Morrissey has only had one good season offensively and wouldn't get cherry PP minutes in Edmonton.
In short, you'll get a better return elsewhere. We'll take Nino & DeMelo at those prices though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 17 h 0
Sujet:
Summer Tweaks cup or bust
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1234</b></div><div>Wow they should get like 10 first rounders for him lol.
Y’all can keep your cap dump 😂</div></div>
I'd like to. Chicago got a serious haul for a similar player (Hagel).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 16 h 29
Sujet:
Summer Tweaks cup or bust
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1234</b></div><div>He absolutely is a cap dump. The OP even changed the trade lol. Let’s look at some comparable players.
Brock McGinn had only 9 less points (mostly assists), has the same cap hit and took a 3rd and taking back a contract to get rid of.
Kasperi Kapanen had 6 more points and only 450k more of a cap hit and had to be given away for free for someone to take him. And those were at the trade deadline where players tend to have more value.</div></div>
Warren Foegele scored at a 1st line rate while being paid like a 3rd liner. That's the opposite of a cap dump.
One of the best ways to compare players across the league is in 5v5 play, since it's (a) the most common game state by far and (b) equalizes inputs.
So here's how Foegele stacks up:
G/60: 0.93 (84th, tied with Panarin) 1st line rate
P/60: 2.09 (85th, tied with Tavares) 1st line rate
S/60: 9.36 (50th, tied with Cozens) 1st line rate
xG/60: 1.16 (9th, tied with Tavares) elite 1st line rate
SCF/60: 10.90 (23rd) elite 1st line rate
HDCF/60: 6.19 (8th), elite 1st line rate
Tka/60: 3.63 (3rd), elite 1st line rate
Hits/60: 7.11 (108th tied with Kreider) high 2nd line rate
Now consider that he spent just 8% of his TOI with McDavid this year. Foegele is a value contract.
[A little context for my stats. I took full season 5v5 stats and applied two filters: forwards only and minimun TOI of 495 minutes. That leaves us with the top 385 players by minutes played. Why 385? Because there are 32 teams and each with 12 regular forwards. 32 x 12 = 384, so pretty close. This way we can divide results by "1st line" (top 96 players), "2nd line" (97-192), etc. All stats are expressed as "per 60 minutes" to equalize for TOI differences.]
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 16 h 21
Sujet:
Personal Opinion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DomCholette</b></div><div>What if someone OS Bouchard with 6-7M/year</div></div>
Then they match and move Kulak to make the money work. I reckon Holland will try to get the Bouchard deal done prior to July 1st, but if not I don't think there are many teams Bouchard would rather play on, if any.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 14 h 37
Sujet:
Personal Opinion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>That's pretty risky considering the somewhat shallow prospect pool though and lack of draft picks. They all had good seasons. Plenty of teams have cap space and opportunity. If they don't sign them then that's not their contract as much as if they do it is. Easiest fix would be not having them up in the NHL as non roster and bringing up the cheaper guy's instead. Yes they'd make more scratched in the NHL then playing in the AHL, but is that what's best for the development of prospects?</div></div>
Every one of them will be qualified. I don't think that's up for debate.
But the QO is just the start of negotiations usually, most players in that situation will accept a different number on a 2 year deal that gives them greater opportunity to play in the NHL. There's no risk of losing any of them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 13 h 27
Sujet:
Summer Tweaks cup or bust
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1234</b></div><div>Pens decline. Why would we pay for your cap dump?</div></div>
Because he's not a cap dump? Of all the absurdities in this post, you had to pick the one sane thing to slag, didn't you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 13 h 24
Sujet:
if cap goes up
Minnesota adds. :awesome
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 13 h 23
Sujet:
Personal Opinion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>None of the AHL RFA's are at their qualifying offers though</div></div>
They don't have to be. Holland can offer them whatever he wants (at least league minimum though), if they sign it that's their contract.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 13 h 21
Sujet:
Flipping Montour for Long Term Success
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Joxu</b></div><div>I doubt a 70 point defenseman on his last chance for a big deal will take 4-5 million. It'll be more like 6-7.</div></div>
Montour isn't a 70-point defenseman to the Oilers though. He scored nearly half his points on the PP, and isn't going to get PP time in Edmonton. So they aren't paying top dollar for a rental they'll only get partial use out of.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 13 h 6
Sujet:
Personal Opinion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>The team didn't get any better. They need to upgrade their bottom 6. They need super defensive minded guys in that bottom 6.
Also, I doubt Yamamato gets a 2nd. He is a decent player but he is just barely worth his 3m cap hit right now based on production. I could actually see them giving him away for free.</div></div>
Their bottom-6 was great in the regular season. They created lots of chances in the playoffs but didn't cash much. I'm not sure the bottom-6 is a pressing concern. And they need more defensive minded players in the top-6, too.
I don't know what Yamamoto is worth on the open market, my main concern was that no cap came back. You could be right about his value.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 12 h 39
Sujet:
Summer Tweaks cup or bust
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sens_Fan33</b></div><div>why would Minnesota do this</div></div>
That one made me lol.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
25 mai à 12 h 36
Sujet:
Personal Opinion
<a href="https://lowetide.ca/2023/05/25/personal-opinion-5/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://lowetide.ca/2023/05/25/personal-opinion-5/</a>
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