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(TOR/PIT) - Kapanen, Åberg, Lindgren for 2020 1st, Rodrigues, Hållander, Warsofsky

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25 août 2020 à 15 h 55
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I just don't get this at all. Pittsburgh doesn't win this trade even from a cap perspective. And to those who try to defend it by saying that the 15th overall may not play for a couple of years, I have two words: Dylan Larkin.


Larkin still took a year before going pro and it wasn't until his 3 season when he broke out to be a 60pt player.

2018 - Grigori Denisenko
2017 - Erik Brannstrom
2016 - Luke Kunin
2015 - Zach Senyshyn
2014 - Dylan Larkin
2013 - Ryan Pulock
2012 - Cody Ceci
2011 - JT Miller
2010 - Derek Forbort

Larkin was the exception not the rule.
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25 août 2020 à 15 h 57
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Quoting: NR1203
I think it all depends on what the Leafs decide to do with the pick. I'm of the opinion that they should try and trade it for a RHD, and trade Johnsson for futures to open up cap space to sign another RHD in free agency.


I think theyd be smart to move it for help at RHD too. The window for TOR is 4yrs because after that their big 4 are going to start becoming UFA's. A 1st doesnt help them take advantage of their window.
25 août 2020 à 15 h 58
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Quoting: justaBoss
Literally the only way this makes sense in terms of humanity is that Rutherford mixed Lindgren and Liljegren together.

If that isn't the case I don't know what the heck has JR been smoking.


Back in the 1970s, the Pens GM got confused and traded a first rounder to Montreal. Pens thought they were getting NHL sniper Steve Schutt but got a minor leaguer Schutt instead. Lindgren is 23 year old small RHD, who hasn't made a impact in any pro league I wish him success, but odds are he isn't an NHLer.
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25 août 2020 à 16 h 7
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Quoting: palhal
Back in the 1970s, the Pens GM got confused and traded a first rounder to Montreal. Pens thought they were getting NHL sniper Steve Schutt but got a minor leaguer Schutt instead. Lindgren is 23 year old small RHD, who hasn't made a impact in any pro league I wish him success, but odds are he isn't an NHLer.


Lol professionals at work
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25 août 2020 à 16 h 30
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Jack Johnson signed for a dumb contract, Phil Kessel traded Galchenyuk basically you turn Galchenyuk and Addison into Zucker, you trade a 3rd round pick to bring in Marleau, then you trade another good prospect in Hallander and the 15th overall pick for Kapanen...... this is not trending very well....
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25 août 2020 à 16 h 48
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TORONTO FLEECEDDDDDDDDDD. Seriously someone check in to see if Rutherford is responsive.
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25 août 2020 à 16 h 50
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SOMEBODY ASK THE NICE LADY TO TAKE THE PHONE AWAY FROM JIM
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25 août 2020 à 16 h 53
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.





I made an AGM a few weeks ago ... traded Kapanen straight up for the 15th overall pick.

And got absolutely torn to shreds by about 10 different posters.

Apparently I'm just another delusional Leafs fan ... and Kapanen's worth a late 2nd.

My next AGM traded Johnsson and Kerfoot for late 2nd rounders ... same result.

Thank's for the wisdom boys ... I dedicate this trade to you!




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25 août 2020 à 17 h 2
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Quoting: jasondomitrovic
I am LOOSING MY MIND RIGHT NOW! He trades AWAY Dominik Kahun for Connor FREAKING FALL DOWN Sheary and Evan Rodriguez and NOW BOTH are gone as is Kahun which played SOOO well and has so much upside AND on top of this he trades away OUR 15th OVERALL first round pick of this years STACKED DRAFT for a player who we drafted YEARS AGO!!!

What the freaking heck!!!


He also traded your best prospect ... on top of the 15th overall.

Get it right bro.
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 6
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Quoting: aadoyle
To those who said Kapenan isn't worth a first this must be embarrassing


To those who say Kempe/Iafallo/Walker aren't worth a 1st, think again. Right?
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 12
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Dubas isn't done. Pietrangelo is on the horizon!
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 15
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Quoting: exo2769
You liked trading for Brassard, Hagelin, Pearson, Bjugstad, Gudbranson, and Galchenyuk? He's been a terrible GM for a while now.


I liked the Hagelin trade. I liked him. That's it.
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 16
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Quoting: PinkWhitney
To those who say Kempe/Iafallo/Walker aren't worth a 1st, think again. Right?


I would say Iafallo for sure. Kempe a late and Walker could at the deadline if he signs a good contract with the kings.
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 20
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Quoting: Rangsey
Remember when he had that really good run for Nashville and people thought he was a stud.


No I don't.
25 août 2020 à 17 h 20
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I would say Iafallo for sure. Kempe a late and Walker could at the deadline if he signs a good contract with the kings.


I still wouldn't trade Kempe. Cya Walker and Iafallo
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 23
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Quoting: aadoyle
To those who said Kapenan isn't worth a first this must be embarrassing


BUT Pal. We have NOW used TWO First Round picks on the SAME PLAYER!!! HAs this evert happened in history of the NHL!!! Crazy and stupid all at the same time.
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 26
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Kap is not the type of player that thrives in the Sid/Geno system of offense - he's a run and gun type player. Not a good fit, imo. He's not a top six Forward! It's not an overpayment per se, but for PIT it is.
25 août 2020 à 17 h 26
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Quoting: justaBoss

I don't know what the heck has JR been smoking.


Yes you do want to know 😅
You want some too 🤣

Well... some people thought Leafs would get much less than this for Kapanen, I guess Dubas showed 'em.
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25 août 2020 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: jasondomitrovic
Pontus Aberg has been on 7 FREAKING NHL TEAMS!!!!


I've never seen someone more upset about a trade. Speaks volumes!
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25 août 2020 à 18 h 13
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Quoting: drewjenkins
He also traded your best prospect ... on top of the 15th overall.

Get it right bro.


When did he trade Poulin?
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25 août 2020 à 18 h 17
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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05
When did he trade Poulin?


About 4 hours after the Leaf trade ... check ESPN.
25 août 2020 à 18 h 28
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Quoting: drewjenkins
About 4 hours after the Leaf trade ... check ESPN.


Still checking. Nope, they still have their best prospect
25 août 2020 à 18 h 41
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I know Rutherford is probably willing to overpay now if he can squeeze out one or two deep runs over the next couple of years but he probably could have easily found a better player than Kapanen for that package. Especially the first round pick.
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25 août 2020 à 18 h 46
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Larkin still took a year before going pro and it wasn't until his 3 season when he broke out to be a 60pt player.

2018 - Grigori Denisenko
2017 - Erik Brannstrom
2016 - Luke Kunin
2015 - Zach Senyshyn
2014 - Dylan Larkin
2013 - Ryan Pulock
2012 - Cody Ceci
2011 - JT Miller
2010 - Derek Forbort

Larkin was the exception not the rule.


Would you rather have J.T. Miller, Ryan Pulock, Dylan Larkin, Erik Brannstrom, Grigori Denisenko, or Kasperi Kapanen? And the jury is still out on Kunin and Senyshyn. Even if we consider them not as good as Kapanen, I would have taken the 55% chance on a successful pick and kept the first and Hallander.
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25 août 2020 à 18 h 56
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I honestly dont see what the fuss is about. Most pieces of this trade aren’t worth much.

Leafs nation are always excited like toddlers after a trade (See Tyson Barrie)

It's like if they dont realize PIT got the best player of the trade. Period. While Their team got weaker...

Kap is a 20 goals player on an affordable contract. He still has upside and will still be RFA by rhe end of it. That's worth a mid round first.

Who knows what will become of that pick... Once PITs core is too old. This is win now mentality. Im ok with this.
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