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drewjenkins

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Forum: NHL Signings11 jan à 4 h 52
Sujet: New York Islanders signed Mathew Barzal (3 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rokk</b></div><div>Ok, it seems you're just looking for an argument. So let's argue. Never said you were correct, never agreed with anything you said as a matter of fact. It just became obvious it was pointless having a discussion with you since you were beginning to twist words to fit your own agenda. Let's break all this down shall we?

1. pharrow posted that Barzal wouldn't make as much money playing in a defensive system as he would an offensive system. I disagreed,

2. He then stated that Barzal wouldn't make as much as the guys scoring a 100 points a season if he was only scoring 60. I disagreed again.

3. You then jumped in with a post, picking apart my post and ended it with Barzal isn't worth 10 million, to which I replied that the post wasn't about him being worth 10 million it was about parts 1&amp;2.

4. This must have somehow triggered you because you replied to this post with an off topic rant about Tavares and how I called him a traitor. Something I never stated in my post so I assumed you were talking about my avatar and offered an explanation, NOT an argument.

5. You then claimed I didn't know he was lying to which I replied post that you didn't know he wasn't lying.

6. You then proceeded to take an extremely small portion of my final post, telling me it was the very definition of lying. Even though I never claimed he was lying about the part you quoted. I said he screwed the Islanders over by letting them know he was leaving at the last possible second. Not that he lied about it. It was at this point I knew I was just smashing my face in to the keyboard and had every intention of walking away from this thread. So I conceded. Until your ego got in the way,

No, you're not right!</div></div>

Maybe if you didn't take everything personally ... like a UFA leaving your team ... you wouldn't have written 6 petty paragraphs that no one is going to read.

Great profile pic by the way.
Forum: NHL Signings 9 jan à 18 h 54
Sujet: New York Islanders signed Mathew Barzal (3 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rokk</b></div><div>What does any of that have to do with Barzal not being paid the same type of money as someone playing in an offensive system?

Or are you referring to my avatar? That's easily explainable he stated numerous times he wanted to be here. He told management on more than one occasion don't trade me. They should have anyways that's on them but I likely would have taken him on his word as well. Then come free agency he gives the middle finger to everyone and with out actually saying the words "you get nothing for me, sucks to be the Islanders". I don't care that he left or what his reasons were.

He just out right lied about everything and then bolted. In my eyes it was an attempt to screw over the organization. He didn't even let the Islanders know he was leaving until the last possible second and by then the majority of UFA's at the time signed elsewhere so Lou ended up having to sign the scraps left over. Knowing what I know now, I'm glad he's gone the Islanders are a better team because of it. hell we even won a playoff series in Toronto before he did.</div></div>

I directly responded to your quote, which also related to your picture.

And ya that attitude is sad man. Who knows when he made up his mind.

And Lou was a brand new GM that summer. Maybe he just didn't like Lou or his vision for the team.

Either way ... you have no idea if he lied.
Forum: NHL Signings 9 jan à 17 h 35
Sujet: New York Islanders signed Mathew Barzal (3 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rokk</b></div><div>Tavares was there longer true, playing in an offensive system designed entirely around him and he left because he couldn't win on Long Island and wanted to play for a team he thought had a better chance of winning, why? because losing isn't fun.</div></div>

I mean ... Maybe he left because he and his wife both grew up in Toronto, and they wanted to start a family in the same city as their parents.
You and I would definitely consider that kind of stuff if we were choosing where to live for the first time in our career.
That would 100% mean more to me any on the job issues. What if a parent isn't likely to live 8 more years?

Hockey players are just humans bro ... Calling someone a traitor for living where they want to live is just sad and misguided.
Go live in Winnipeg for the next 8 years OK? No? Not down? WTF man people you don't know expect you there! Traitor!
Sounds stupid right?
Forum: NHL Signings 9 jan à 16 h 42
Sujet: New York Islanders signed Mathew Barzal (3 Years / $7,000,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rokk</b></div><div>I don't think Barzal cares if he scores 60 or a 100 points a season as long as he's winning. That's a Tavares thing.</div></div>
Tavares was on the Islanders about 5 years longer than Barzal has been.
Barzal might not even last as long as Tavares. We don't know the future.
We also don't know what Barzal is thinking.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rokk</b></div><div>And look how far offensive systems have gone in the playoffs.</div></div>
This highest scoring team in the NHL over the past 3 years just won the Stanley Cup.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rokk</b></div><div>If the Islanders had the cap space (which they don't) Barzal easily would be getting about 10 million a season even.</div></div>
Barzal isn't worth 10 million a season.
Especially as a restricted free agent.
Especially with covid revenue loss.
Forum: NHL Signings 6 jan à 18 h 20
Sujet: Columbus Blue Jackets signed Oliver Bjorkstrand (5 Years / $5,400,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheLeafsSeason</b></div><div>Dubas would have given him $8 million</div></div>

$5,400,000 x 5 years = <strong>Bjorkstrand</strong> at 25 (career <strong>43</strong> points per 82 games)

$3,400,000 x 4 years = <strong>Johnsson</strong> at 24 (career <strong>46</strong> points per 82 games) = <strong>Dubas did better</strong>
$6,900,000 x 6 years = <strong>Nylander</strong> at 22 (career <strong>62</strong> points per 82 games) = <strong>Dubas did better</strong>
$3,200,000 x 3 years = <strong>Kapanen</strong> at 22 (career <strong>38</strong> points per 82 games) = <strong>Dubas did better</strong>

This about it for Dubas career comparables.

Unless you want to compare Bjorkstrand to guys signing after 90+ point per 82 game seasons?
Forum: Armchair-GM 5 jan à 13 h 14
Sujet: If JT never came
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NTanger19</b></div><div>Id rather have the team rn than this team tbh</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RangerWall92</b></div><div>I'm taking JT all day</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>Got news for you, There's noway this team is any better then the current one.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>JT is definitely worth it. Who wants Kadri to take stupid penalties and suspensions in the playoffs anyways?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dzad96</b></div><div>Swap Gardiner for someone else with similar cap like Tanev, put him on the second pair instead. Still no? I don't think JT is worth 6.5 more than Kadri is my main point here. I'd take Kadri and 6.5 mil in cap space flexibility over JT.</div></div>

So this man would take:

<strong>Kadri</strong> ($4,500,000) - So he can play in roughly 1 playoff game per season.
<strong>Eakin</strong> ($2,300,000) - The 15 point center making 3 times more than Thornton, Spezza and Boyd.
<strong>Gardiner</strong> ($4,100,000) - The contract Carolina is already trying to dump and will likely have to buy out.

At $11,000,000 (with an average age of 30).

Over:

<strong>Tavares</strong> ($11,000,000)
<strong>Engvall</strong> ($1,200,000)
<strong>Dermott</strong> ($900,000)

At $13,000,000 (with an average age of 25).

<strong>Interesting. </strong>
Forum: Armchair-GM 2 jan à 21 h 36
Sujet: PLD because everyone and their mother did one
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>there is not a single reason for columbus to do this</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheOtherAuston</b></div><div>I mean other than the fact that their player wants a trade and should maximize return your right</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigOaf69</b></div><div>there have been way better returns on here lol</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>yeah, montreal fans have offered up Byron and a couple 2nds!</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Theozler</b></div><div>Most I’ve seen have had kotkaniemi and/or danault caufield</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>yeah, most are pretty bad. Habs fans are notorious for over valuing their pieces.</div></div>

The Leafs (correctly) reject this trade 100% of the time.

<strong>1. Campbell &gt; Korpisalo (and $1,800,000 cheaper)</strong>

- Korpisalo | Last 3 years = 0.903 save percent | 82 games played | $3,400,000 x 2 years (retention added)
- Campbell | Last 3 years = 0.917 save percent | 62 games played | $1,600,000 x 2 years

<strong>2. Nylander = Dubois (and signed for twice as long)</strong>

- Nylander | 2019-20 pace = 38 goals + 72 points | Career pace = 24 goals + 60 points | $6,800,000 x 4 years
- P-Dubois | 2019-20 pace = 21 goals + 57 points | Career pace = 22 goals + 55 points | $5,000,000 x 2 years

- Dubois is slightly better defensively than Nylander (but he's slightly worse offensively as well)
- Nylander was no slouch on defense last year (among NHL leaders takeaways + transition stats).
- If Toronto adds two solid prospects on top of Nylander, they'll lose both goalie and skater swaps.

Some of you need to look in the mirror.