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Evgeni Malkin vs Patrice Bergeron

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Date de création initiale: 24 juin 2020
Publié: 24 juin 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Today, I want to compare 2 of the best centers of the salary cap era.

Over their careers, Malkin has scored 416 goals & 1076 points in 907 career regular season games (point per game of 1.19). In the playoffs, he has 63 goals and 168 points in 162 games (point per game of 1.03). He has won 3 cups, a Hart, 2 scoring titles, a Conn Smythe, a Lindsey & a Calder.

Patrice Bergeron has a 352 goals and 869 points in 1089 regular season games (PPG average of 0.7979). In the playoffs, he has 40 goals & 103 points in 136 games (PPG of 0.7576). He has won 4 Selke trophies.

In terms of defensive play, Malkin’s expected goals against ranks in the 33rd percentile with a career defensive point share of 21.4. Bergeron’s highest ranks in the 94th percentile and has a career defensive point share of 30.5.

Personally, I’d say Malkin has been the better player. Even though Bergeron is far superior defensively, I feel Malkin’s skill level & ability to take over games single handedly is too hard to ignore.
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $104 005 000 $0 $1 300 000 $-22 505 000 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Guentzel, Jake
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Bergeron, Patrice
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Pastrnak, David
6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Zucker, Jason
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Rust, Bryan
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
DeBrusk, Jake
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance450 000 $$450K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Coyle, Charlie
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Hörnqvist, Patric
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Bruins de Boston
McAvoy, Charlie
4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Rask, Tuukka
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Carlo, Brandon
2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Murray, Matt
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
Marino, John
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
Krug, Torey
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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24 juin 2020 à 11 h 36
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Hey the ping worked this time - I say Malkin
24 juin 2020 à 11 h 37
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Malkin


POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
24 juin 2020 à 11 h 40
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Malkin
24 juin 2020 à 11 h 48
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Malkin has the NHL "chops" won but Bergy is the INTL (and some NHL too) "Zen-Master"
* Malkin's better offensively but I voted Bergy for the more complete game and leadership.
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24 juin 2020 à 12 h 17
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malkin!!!
24 juin 2020 à 12 h 18
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Tough to really compare as they play two completely different styles.
24 juin 2020 à 12 h 26
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Thats really hard to compare: you are talking about very different players even though they play the same position:

Im guessing a lot of people will saying Malkin because of who he is, when he was drafted, and how many points he had. Also people hate the bruins

Im not gonna say Bergy is definitely better, but if i HAD to build a team around one of them, im going with Bergy because he is probably just better all around
24 juin 2020 à 12 h 50
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Thats really hard to compare: you are talking about very different players even though they play the same position:

Im guessing a lot of people will saying Malkin because of who he is, when he was drafted, and how many points he had. Also people hate the bruins

Im not gonna say Bergy is definitely better, but if i HAD to build a team around one of them, im going with Bergy because he is probably just better all around


cough cough homer cough cough

This isn't even close the answer is Malkin.
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24 juin 2020 à 12 h 50
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I'd probably say Malkin. Offense is elite, defense isnt bad. If you looked at it from a positional standpoint, I would rather have an offensively gifted center with 2 defensive defensemen to cover his back than have a defensive center with 2 offensively gifted defensemen to take some of the stress off the center. Neither is a particularly bad situation to be in, but I think the first option is the conventional and ideal route to go.
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24 juin 2020 à 12 h 50
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Again Malkin … hes a top 3 player of his generation....
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Quoting: Silkysmooth42
Thats really hard to compare: you are talking about very different players even though they play the same position:

Im guessing a lot of people will saying Malkin because of who he is, when he was drafted, and how many points he had. Also people hate the bruins

Im not gonna say Bergy is definitely better, but if i HAD to build a team around one of them, im going with Bergy because he is probably just better all around


I man would you rather build a team around a McDavid or a couturier ? answer seems pretty obvious
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24 juin 2020 à 13 h 23
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Geno and it's not close.
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
I man would you rather build a team around a McDavid or a couturier ? answer seems pretty obvious


Bergeron's resume is miles ahead of SC; country miles.
WJ - GOLD
WC - GOLD
OLY - GOLD x 2
"Trip Au-CLUB Member"
WORLD's - GOLD
STANLEY CUP
SELKE's x 4 and counting?
KING CLANCY...
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
I man would you rather build a team around a McDavid or a couturier ? answer seems pretty obvious


Gap between McDavid/Couturier is way bigger than Malkin/Bergeron
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Quoting: pharrow
cough cough homer cough cough

This isn't even close the answer is Malkin.


homer lol when you think Guentzel is better than Marchand tears of joy
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24 juin 2020 à 14 h 5
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Malkin clear cut. Not a knock on Bergeron. He’s still a future HOFer. Malkin was just a better player
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Quoting: bhavikp27
Gap between McDavid/Couturier is way bigger than Malkin/Bergeron


its not.... im sorry. its more of an example. teams don't uild around players that are accessory players. they build around superstars... Malkin is a full blow superstar.
24 juin 2020 à 14 h 27
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Bergeron's resume is miles ahead of SC; country miles.
WJ - GOLD
WC - GOLD
OLY - GOLD x 2
"Trip Au-CLUB Member"
WORLD's - GOLD
STANLEY CUP
SELKE's x 4 and counting?
KING CLANCY...


the majority of that list isnon NHL fuctions that he was on Team Canada.....

what I see is

Bergeron
1 Cup and 4 Selkes

Malkin

Stanley Cup champion 2009, 2016, 2017
Conn Smythe Trophy 2009
Hart Memorial Trophy 2012
Art Ross Trophy 2009, 2012
Ted Lindsay Award 2012
Calder Memorial Trophy 2007

yeah im taking Malkin….sorry idgaf about WC WJ or anything along those lines......its just dumb

the comparison Elite offensive player vs 2 way center
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Quoting: Wadejos123
Malkin


Malkin
24 juin 2020 à 14 h 28
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Quoting: McGruff
Bergeron's resume is miles ahead of SC; country miles.
WJ - GOLD
WC - GOLD
OLY - GOLD x 2
"Trip Au-CLUB Member"
WORLD's - GOLD
STANLEY CUP
SELKE's x 4 and counting?
KING CLANCY...


Quoting: McGruff
Bergeron's resume is miles ahead of SC; country miles.
WJ - GOLD
WC - GOLD
OLY - GOLD x 2
"Trip Au-CLUB Member"
WORLD's - GOLD
STANLEY CUP
SELKE's x 4 and counting?
KING CLANCY...

4 team awards hockey is a team sport.
24 juin 2020 à 14 h 31
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Bergeron but it's very difficult to compare
24 juin 2020 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: Capitalfail67
the majority of that list isnon NHL fuctions that he was on Team Canada.....

what I see is

Bergeron
1 Cup and 4 Selkes

Malkin

Stanley Cup champion 2009, 2016, 2017
Conn Smythe Trophy 2009
Hart Memorial Trophy 2012
Art Ross Trophy 2009, 2012
Ted Lindsay Award 2012
Calder Memorial Trophy 2007

yeah im taking Malkin….sorry idgaf about WC WJ or anything along those lines......its just dumb

the comparison Elite offensive player vs 2 way center


Notice how everyone is saying malkin except bruins fans
24 juin 2020 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: mhockey91
Malkin clear cut. Not a knock on Bergeron. He’s still a future HOFer. Malkin was just a better player


the fact people are picking Bergeron is just proof Malkin might be the most underrated player his entire era..... Crosby shadow is massive.

unpopular but completely accurate take …...players better than or equal to Malkin in the last 15 years.

Crosby
Ovechkin
Mcdavid
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