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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 1 h 12
Sujet: VGK 22-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KooKoo4Kaapo</b></div><div>At the end of the day, what Vegas will have too give up to get a serviceable Goalie is going to be ridiculous. Personally, I think they should just hope and pray Thompson is the real deal and just see how this season goes.</div></div>

I honestly don't see Ned being traded at this point. Last season Ned was still considered a rookie and he went from playing 23 games on a really good Carolina team to playing 59 games on a pretty bad Detroit team. Detroit's other goalie Greiss had an even worse season so not only did Ned play too many games but he also had no one to push him. I thats part of the reason Yzerman went out and made sure he got Husso instead of just signing an older but solid back up. Now Husso did play 40 games last season but it was on a much better team. Plus Ned requested the trade to Detroit so he might be able to be signed a little cheaper. That's how I see it.
Forum: Trade Machine ProposalsHier à 23 h 54
Sujet: Not even sure if this is good enough
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>budgeteam</b></div><div>Teams can only do this for so long. Players usually don't like being shopped for years at a time, and usually pressure the team to get something done. If no team has met Arizona's ask, it's unlikely it will ever happen. Ottawa is in a desperate situation. Their defense stinks, they have a restrictive budget, and there is tremendous pressure for Dorion to make the playoffs.

There will never be a better opportunity for Arizona to maximize their return. Whatever the Senators are offering, might be close to the best offer they will ever get.</div></div>

I think the best time to maximize their return was from the TDL rumors until the beginning of free agency. If he has a good season then his value at the upcoming TDL his value will be back up but he won't bring in the equivalent of 3 or 4 1st rd picks until the TDL.
Forum: Armchair-GMlun. à 0 h 20
Sujet: Edmonds Kadri Build
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CringleMcDingleberry</b></div><div>This might be a silly question, but is there value in signing someone expensive on a short term to keep the quality up short term? Like signing a 5+million per year player on a 1-2y contract. Like Kessel or Kadri (had he been an option) taking the spot of Rasmussen or Erne?</div></div>

It really depends on the situation. With a players over 30 of course teams will want less term and might pay more to keep the term down. But it's not that easy because players might take a little less to get more term. They are looking to get as much guaranteed money as they can. Kadri had the best season of his career so he is really looking to capitalize on that. I highly doubt he will have another season like this so it basically down hill from here but how many good seasons does he have left? A couple of things that you have consider for Kadri. Colorado is stacked so can produce like this on another team and his suspension history. When he gets frustrated he tends to do things that get him suspended. I have no idea what Kessel is looking for in term and salary but at 34 this will be his last standard contract he signs after this year any contract he signs will be a 35+ contract.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 17 h 9
Sujet: Kane goes home Buffalo turns into Contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>As a Sabres fan, I’d hope we only consider the Pk88 trade if he signs an extension here. However, he wants to play for a contender again, so he’s not gonna accept a trade here right now.
Maybe he reconsiders if you’re Dylan Larkin trade happens,
but we’re giving up A LOT in that deal- and a few of the pieces i know we’d want to keep (namely Savoie &amp; Asplund)
I know we’d have to give to get, but i think we’d try to move some other pieces besides those 2 guys.
*and Larkin would have to come with a long term extension for us to even consider giving up what it would take to get him

I don’t wanna nitpick your trades, but the Samuelsson for Brannstrom deal has ZERO chance of happening
Samuelsson was paired with Dahlin at the end of last season &amp; looked good there. Those 2 will play together again on our top pair (to start at least) instead of rushing Power into that role.

To answer your overall question….
At the end of the day, adding Larkin &amp; Kane look good on paper, but that’s not enough to make us “contenders”

The goaltending is still quite questionable,
and a majority of the team is still very young &amp; needs more development</div></div>

Ok but there is zero chance Detroit accepts that for Larkin.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 17 h 2
Sujet: Larkin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kster34</b></div><div>I think we all agree the trade makes no sense (for either team), but a bunch of scraps. A young d (projected top 4), out top d prospect that just won best d world juniors, our 1st round pick from this year + 1st from next year + Brodie (who would be top pairing on your team)…come on. Again deal makes no sense, but Larkin ain’t worth half of this…</div></div>

I don't think Toronto should be young dmen at all with the majority of their being 30 or older and then Rielly is 28. Yes Brodie would be in our top pair but he is 32 so how much value does he really have from Detroit's POV? Sandin has considerably less value than he had a couple of seasons ago. Voit looks like the 2nd coming of Jeremy Bracco who a bunch of Leaf's fans here were sure he was worth a 1st or at very least a 2nd. Minten is too far off to really say but if I had to say right now I'd say he's a middle 6 forward. I do like Niemelä quite a bit and he is by far the best piece coming to Detroit in this trade but with him and late 1st being the only pieces of significant value to Detroit I don't see how you can say Larkin isn't half of that.
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