Duncan Keith Is The Most Overrated Defenceman Of The Cap Era

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Créé par: HattrickKane88

Équipe: 2020-21 Blackhawks de Chicago

Date de création initiale: 12 juin 2020

Publié: 12 juin 2020

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Even as a Blackhawks fan, it is not hard to admit that Duncan Keith is one of the worst and most overrated defenceman in NHL history. There is nothing impressive about him whatsoever. The guy is a turnover machine & is incapable of moving the puck out of the defensive zone. Whenever he's on the ice, the Blackhawks are getting outplayed. The guy can't defend the front of the net & is always out of position. His reputation of winning multiple cups has been severely overblown. Literally anyone could've won with that team. They were so stacked on offence with Patrick Kane & Brandon Saad plus had a tremendous defence featuring Nick Leddy & Dustin Byfuglien. Also, Keith's Norris trophies were undeserved. Just because he played a lot of minutes & scored a lot of points, it doesn't mean he was good. Look at Morgan Rielly for example. Keith has never had a WAR higher than 0.3 throughout his career, so it's embarrassing how bad he is.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Strome, Dylan		5	5 500 000 $
Kubalik, Dominik		5	6 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Vesey, Jimmy	1	1 850 000 $
Maroon, Patrick	1	1 750 000 $
Anderson, Craig	1	1 750 000 $

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
Sanderson, Jake		3	925 000 $

Transactions

CHI

Suter, Ryan

MIN

Keith, Duncan
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (PIT)

CHI

Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (MTL)

MTL

Määttä, Olli

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
20	81 500 000 $	65 936 206 $	1 090 244 $	5 050 000 $	15 563 794 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Kubalik, Dominik 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Toews, Jonathan 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Saad, Brandon 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1
DeBrincat, Alex 6 400 000 $6 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Strome, Dylan 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ C UFA - 2	Kane, Patrick 2 625 000 $2 625 000 $ AD NMC UFA - 3
Vesey, Jimmy 1 850 000 $1 850 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C, AD RFA - 2	Nylander, Alexander 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1
	Kämpf, David 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ C UFA - 1	Carpenter, Ryan 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2
Maroon, Patrick 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Suter, Ryan 7 538 462 $7 538 462 $ DG NMC UFA - 5		Anderson, Craig 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sanderson, Jake 925 000 $925 000 $	Murphy, Connor 3 850 000 $3 850 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Delia, Collin 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
De Haan, Calvin 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 2	Boqvist, Adam 894 167 $894 167 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 2
	Mitchell, Ian 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD RFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Shaw, Andrew 3 900 000 $3 900 000 $ C, AD UFA - 2
		Seabrook, Brent 6 875 000 $6 875 000 $ DD NMC UFA - 4
		Smith, Zack 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG, C M-NTC UFA - 1

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Kubalik, D.		Toews, J.		Kane, P.
	Nylander, A.		Suter, R.

Avantage numérique 2
DeBrincat, A.		Strome, D.		Dach, K.
	Vesey, J.		Sanderson, J.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Toews, J.	Saad, B.
	Suter, R.	Murphy, C.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Kämpf, D.	Vesey, J.
	Sanderson, J.	Boqvist, A.

12 juin 2020 à 16 h 55

BorisBagel

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Habs counter with Alzner and 6th for Määttä and a 7th

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12 juin 2020 à 16 h 55

mnwild1790

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You okay bro?

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12 juin 2020 à 16 h 56

ItWasIn

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Maybe he's a little overrated but so was Derek Jeter. Doesn't mean he's not a Hall of famer and his number will be retired by the Hawks.

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 0

tkecanuck341

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I watched the 2015 playoffs.

Not overrated.

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 4

mnwild1790

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Also, as much as I'd like to shed some salary and term to our current payroll, Suter aint leaving. Parise can be convinced to waive his NMC but we could be dead last in the standings and he still would probably nix any trade for him. I just see him wanting to play in Minnesota until his contract is up and then going into retirement in Madison or somewhere. I mean, I could be wrong, but from what I know, Suter isn't leaving.

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 5

Saskleaf

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He’s good, just not anymore.

12 juin 2020 à 17 h 10

ChiHawk

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Looks like the troll is back

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 22

HatterTParty

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Well, I’ll take a more hands, less insulting approach in my response.

Respectfully, saying Keith is overrated is a little heavy handed. I’ll admit that some of statistics (assists especially) are helped along by the offensive studs this team had. As for his turnovers and passing, I would ask if you had numbers on the turnovers. Not questioning you, just would love to see numbers. His passing, in my opinion hasn’t always been as bad as you say. He use to be an amazing stretch passer in his prime. The 2015 playoffs was him putting on a show as well.

So while I don’t necessarily agree with your assessment, I won’t shoot it down at all. This team was stacked for years. But I also believe Keith was a big part of that with his leadership and his insane work rate (28-30 minutes a night ain’t easy). But I’m curious as to anything else you could add that missing.

12 juin 2020 à 17 h 25

firezfurx

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Quoting: ChiHawk

Looks like the troll is back

This was the guy who claimed Marner sucks and should be in the AHL.

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 32

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TheLastOfUs

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For the MTL trade PITT would have to take some salary back, they have a lot of UFA next year and can’t afford to take on a 4 million plus on the cap without shedding some salary. So maybe Alzner and a 4th or Byron and a 5th would work.

12 juin 2020 à 17 h 41

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Quoting: TheLastOfUs

Pit? I think you meant Chicago lol. And even still, maatta isn’t a cap dump

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 41

#12

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Dude I know you’re trolling. This is 100% a duplicate account on here.

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 44

#13

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Quoting: mhockey91

Dude I know you’re trolling. This is 100% a duplicate account on here.

He only comes out every once in a while, but when he does you really gotta brace yourself

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12 juin 2020 à 17 h 48

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bhavikp27

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and Patrick Kane is the best player ever

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1712817

*despite being one of the worst defensive forwards*

12 juin 2020 à 17 h 56

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mhockey91

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Quoting: SlickWilly

He only comes out every once in a while, but when he does you really gotta brace yourself

I mean, Keith for almost a 10 year span was among the best D in the NHL. In Norris votes over than span he ranked:

2008- 11
2009- 6
2010- 1
2011- 9
2012- 13
2013- 6
2014- 1
2015- 7
2016- 11
2017- 4

Plus throw in 3 cups, a conn smyth, 2 gold medals, and a World Cup of hockey gold.

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12 juin 2020 à 18 h 0

#16

SlickWilly

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Quoting: mhockey91

I know right. I mean his description is just incorrect lmao if you look at the athletic articles they've posted comparing the Hawks cup run teams Keith wasn't "always under 0.3 WAR" and he also incorrectly stated that Buff played defense with us, which he played wing. He's been spewing pure troll content for a while lol

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12 juin 2020 à 18 h 22

#17

ForsbergForVezina

CHI NYI

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Wow

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12 juin 2020 à 19 h 3

#18

DarthKane

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Trade Keith? Absolutely no way in H E double hockey sticks.

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12 juin 2020 à 19 h 30

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Rewatch the 2010, 2013, or 2015 playoffs and then reconsider

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12 juin 2020 à 19 h 56

#20

Capitalfail67

Caps fan idk why

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Haha woof.....

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12 juin 2020 à 20 h 23

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remowilliams

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duncan keith is a class act. he was by far one of the best d in the league in his prime.he has lost a step so has alot of players his age.i had the pleasure of knowing him and his family.to see him come from the gangley legged peewee to one of the best d in the nhl was awesome.he deserves respect for his contributions to the nhl not trolled by a so called hawks fan.

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12 juin 2020 à 20 h 44

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HabsForEver

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Montreal declines. Maatta isn't anything more than a #5 defensemen and his contract would hurt us more than his skill would help us.

12 juin 2020 à 21 h 25

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Pmwalker

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Not this crap again. Who let him out? Pours a bourbon. This should be good

16 juin 2020 à 15 h 30

#24

HattrickKane88

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Quoting: mnwild1790

I know he's not leaving. I traded for him to demonstrate my point that he's been a better defender than Keith.

16 juin 2020 à 15 h 34

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HattrickKane88

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Quoting: ItWasIn

Maybe he's a little overrated but so was Derek Jeter. Doesn't mean he's not a Hall of famer and his number will be retired by the Hawks.

Quoting: tkecanuck341

I watched the 2015 playoffs.

Not overrated.

Quoting: Wadejos123

Rewatch the 2010, 2013, or 2015 playoffs and then reconsider

If you think Keith was a good defenceman, then you don't know what you're watching. Whenever he's on the ice the team gets stuck in their own end. That was especially the case during the 2015 cup run which makes his Conn Smythe even more of a joke. Kane was the best player by far in all 3 cup runs. Just because you score a lot of points and play a ton of minutes it doesn't make you elite. You actually have to get results & Keith isn't capable of doing so.

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