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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #12 - On The Links

8 sept. 2022 à 21 h 56
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I mean, Philly does seem like a mess but I would think that’s 25% players, 25% Torts and 50% Fletcher


I think more like

75% Fletcher, 20% Torts, 5% players as the players can only do so much

Fletcher has created a mess

Good news is guys like JVR will be gone freeing cap but with a guy like Fletcher at the helm watch him spend that on someone useless

Moving to Torts I think in the second year we should see some improvement but Torts may end up causing more issues than solving
8 sept. 2022 à 22 h 3
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I mean, Philly does seem like a mess but I would think that’s 25% players, 25% Torts and 50% Fletcher


I agree , I wonder if the Ellis situation has something to do with it
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8 sept. 2022 à 22 h 14
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I mean, Philly does seem like a mess but I would think that’s 25% players, 25% Torts and 50% Fletcher


They recently acquired DeAngelo.. Don't think the Management cares about their locker room
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8 sept. 2022 à 22 h 15
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No it was in the direct context of the discussion on twitter (large twitter poll).
In the conversation of just solely vs JHughes.

I have been critical in saying JHughes may be too overhyped. Like I for own am taming my own expectations of Meier. But I know theres going to be some pushback against this cetiment. I think Meier is better than JHughes, Meier who I think its obnoxiously undervalued amongst the league. So if I wanted to fit my argument to my own context I would say Meier is better than Hughes and I say he could compete with Rantanen (who he is not on par with just this second) - and I think Seider is sitting with 1 season. So neither kid has down either what Meier has done. Meier was where they were when he was younger and hes even better now.



Meier is more valuable than both and I bet you many of those same hyping Seider now would probably stick with him over Meier. I could provide my own thoughts on Meier (who if you WATCH THE GAMES, they speak for themselves) but I wont derail the point anymore lmfao.

I dont disagree that hes going to be a star.

I dont think you can just go with ALL OF this yet its too soon.

Outvaluing someone happens a lot including JHughes, it has been done everywhere in the NHL but atleast for Jack, he has been through the ups and downs.

JHughes has had little time "SURE" but as devil tintin (and that nhlfan devils with numbers guy lol) would probably scream (which ive dealt with it first hand), it is kinda true JHughes has been through alot and to do/ look how he looks and performs cant be ignored. And Seider has not been through enough yet in the NHL, just slow down, let the kid breathe. Seider does not need to be strangled. He is a gem.


Yup Meier is elite, and that card is only from November - its gotten better since then
8 sept. 2022 à 22 h 27
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Pretty cool

I like when people explain things like this as it sheds new light on stats to have people focus more on just the red rectangle lul. I figured Matthews playstyle had a lot to do with it but wasnt 100% sure well now I know

Also if interested he has a good PP/PK explanation video for formations and stuff
9 sept. 2022 à 4 h 18
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JHughes may be too overhyped.


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9 sept. 2022 à 6 h 35
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is it october yet
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9 sept. 2022 à 7 h 10
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is it october yet


Wake me up when September ends🎵
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9 sept. 2022 à 7 h 24
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Yup Meier is elite, and that card is only from November - its gotten better since then


Meier is really good but wonder if now is the perfect time to trade him. 1 year before a big extension and San Jose should probably go a bit younger and cheaper. Calgary gets Meier longterm and San Jose gets Coronato ++ to pair with Bordeleau. Seems like a win for both teams
9 sept. 2022 à 7 h 53
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
I mean, Philly does seem like a mess but I would think that’s 25% players, 25% Torts and 50% Fletcher


Could be interesting - Torts could be on to something..

It’s not hard to presume that their could be an internal struggle with the team based on the direction/ lack of faith in management. They only care about gritty so I could easily see problems with the players, Torts is well Torts so he could be spewing **** but I’d also say that comment shouldn’t be ignored (didn’t read the article yet so hopefully it provides context)
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9 sept. 2022 à 7 h 54
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Stop yelling I’m scared lol. READ THE FULL COMMENT haha. Wasn’t knocking the kid 😂
9 sept. 2022 à 8 h 22
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Breakout candidates

1. Arthur Kaliyev : 30 G 22 A

2. Connor Mcmichael 22 G 26 A

3. Oliver Wahlstrom 27 G 24 A

4 Jesperi Kotkaniemi 20 G 30 A

5. Jesse Puljujarvi 25 G 28 A

6. Peyton Krebs 15 G 39 A
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9 sept. 2022 à 8 h 59
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Breakout candidates

1. Arthur Kaliyev : 30 G 22 A

2. Connor Mcmichael 22 G 26 A

3. Oliver Wahlstrom 27 G 24 A

4 Jesperi Kotkaniemi 20 G 30 A

5. Jesse Puljujarvi 25 G 28 A

6. Peyton Krebs 15 G 39 A


I know he doesn't necessarily count but i'd love to see a big year out of Eric Robinson. I feel like he could definitely improve on 27 points if he's with the right linemates.
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9 sept. 2022 à 9 h 4
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Breakout candidates

1. Arthur Kaliyev : 30 G 22 A

2. Connor Mcmichael 22 G 26 A

3. Oliver Wahlstrom 27 G 24 A

4 Jesperi Kotkaniemi 20 G 30 A

5. Jesse Puljujarvi 25 G 28 A

6. Peyton Krebs 15 G 39 A


I like all of these, but I worry Pulju is going to get buried even if he produces more. I don't have faith that he will get the time he could deserve.
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9 sept. 2022 à 9 h 5
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I like all of these, but I worry Pulju is going to get buried even if he produces more. I don't have faith that he will get the time he could deserve.

He’s almost guaranteed to see regression to the mean with his S% so I think that will earn him an increased role
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9 sept. 2022 à 9 h 11
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I know he doesn't necessarily count but i'd love to see a big year out of Eric Robinson. I feel like he could definitely improve on 27 points if he's with the right linemates.


As much as i love that line, Robinson - Kuraly - Danforth couldn't raise him that high. Maybe Robinson - Jenner - Bemstrom or Robinson - Jenner - Marchenko would be lit enough to let him break out.
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9 sept. 2022 à 9 h 15
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As much as i love that line, Robinson - Kuraly - Danforth couldn't raise him that high. Maybe Robinson - Jenner - Bemstrom or Robinson - Jenner - Marchenko would be lit enough to let him break out.


Robinson-Jenner-Marchenko sounds like a very good line for both Marchenko and Robinson to break out on.
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9 sept. 2022 à 10 h 15
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Breakout candidates

1. Arthur Kaliyev : 30 G 22 A

2. Connor Mcmichael 22 G 26 A

3. Oliver Wahlstrom 27 G 24 A

4 Jesperi Kotkaniemi 20 G 30 A

5. Jesse Puljujarvi 25 G 28 A

6. Peyton Krebs 15 G 39 A


yes
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9 sept. 2022 à 10 h 20
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yes


I cry every day knowing the isles could have had a Mcmichael-Barzal-Wahlstrom line
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9 sept. 2022 à 10 h 33
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I cry every day knowing the isles could have had a Mcmichael-Barzal-Wahlstrom line


the only problem with mcmichael last year was finishing but hopefully that will be fine. i hope he gets the minutes he deserves. that was the another issue but thats lavs fault
9 sept. 2022 à 10 h 34
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the only problem with mcmichael last year was finishing but hopefully that will be fine. i hope he gets the minutes he deserves. that was the another issue but thats lavs fault


He had the lowest PDO among capitals forwards , he’ll be alright
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9 sept. 2022 à 10 h 40
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The defense is fixed





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9 sept. 2022 à 10 h 45
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The defense is fixed







danny (what the fcuk are you doing) dekeyser
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9 sept. 2022 à 11 h 22
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danny (what the fcuk are you doing) dekeyser


Well he does PK and block shots. Tryout cant hurt concidering canucks struggles with PK.
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9 sept. 2022 à 11 h 23
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Meier is really good but wonder if now is the perfect time to trade him. 1 year before a big extension and San Jose should probably go a bit younger and cheaper. Calgary gets Meier longterm and San Jose gets Coronato ++ to pair with Bordeleau. Seems like a win for both teams


Quoting: csick
Meier is really good but wonder if now is the perfect time to trade him. 1 year before a big extension and San Jose should probably go a bit younger and cheaper. Calgary gets Meier longterm and San Jose gets Coronato ++ to pair with Bordeleau. Seems like a win for both teams


I do love me some Coronato, but idk if the Flames are willing to trade for Meier; their cap structure would need a lot of tinkering with Valimaki needing an extension and only 10 mil in cap space even with Lucic coming off the books by years end.

Idk if it’s feasible.
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