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2021-2022 NHL Season Discussion Thread #30 - Chara's Last 7 Games

21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: Saskleaf
What about Dubas sucks? He's made a lot of good moves. Not saying he's the best GM in the league or anything, but he's a top 10-15 GM, and he is miles better than any GM the leafs have had since Pat Burns.


Dubas turned a Dcore comprised of

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Polak

into

Rielly-Lybushkin
Muzzin-Brodie
Giordano-Liligren

While not the greatest GM he is far from being a bad GM. His contracts have gotten better, drafting has been amazing, and he has a good working relation with his players. Heck Dzingel made good comments about him. I think hes only gonna get better
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Habs have a similar player to Wright in Suzuki but don't have a similar player to caufield.
It's the stupidest and not thought put proposal I've seen in a loooooong time


If anything Habs would do their pick this year + another piece (not a big piece) for 1st overall

It just makes much more sense.

Also you guys are like it's in MTL, so Habs will want to make a splash. Of Habs announce a trade of caufield + something else for 1st overall do ypu realize you'll hear MUCH more groans than cheers. No sane person would do that.
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Danault? He has close to 30 goals this year and can play LW


hes a center.
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 27
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Quoting: hanson493
hes a center.


I know, but if tasked he can play LW
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
I know, but if tasked he can play LW


Not really, he's not one of those centers who can easily move to the wing, he's been a center forever
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Kadri needed change of scenery and Barrie was supposed to be good. Brown, Marchment, Moore, and Freddie would never have succeeded in Toronto as much as they have on their respective teams. Mrazek contract wasn't bad, he just turned out terrible. He was good years prior. And Dubas was getting immense pressure to sign Tavares, and at the time he was worth that. Maybe he was 1m overpaid, but still.
He isn't bad.


Kadri didnt really need a change of scenery. He would have still been a leaf if he kept his anger in check

As back to back suspensions was the last straw for him and he was moved

Didnt really learn his lesson as once again he lost his temper.
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
I'm just saying Habs wouldn't trade caufield + MORE for 1st overall.

I'm giving an example to justaBoss if he'd like jrob for 1st overall.
Yes, Robertson is better and will always be better but it's not a huge margin like jesper Bratt and Josh Bailey. It's more like a margin of Huberdeau and Tkachuk.


Explain me why the habs should trade caufield and MORE for Shane Wright?


Fair enough, I'd consider it possibly one for one but I wouldn't really add.
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 28
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Quoting: aadoyle
Kadri didnt really need a change of scenery. He would have still been a leaf if he kept his anger in check

As back to back suspensions was the last straw for him


That's why he needed a change of scenery lul
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Fair enough, I'd consider it possibly one for one but I wouldn't really add.


I don't care, I wouldn't even do caufield for wright
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
That's why he needed a change of scenery lul


Didnt really help his case though as he got suspended last playoffs tears of joy

3 for 5 years is not a good look rn
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Habs have a similar player to Wright in Suzuki but don't have a similar player to caufield.
It's the stupidest and not thought put proposal I've seen in a loooooong time

If you took all of the traits from Suzuki’s upside and Caufield’s upside and combined them you get Wright’s upside. That would be why. Suzuki projects as a 2-way low-end 1C/high-end 2C, and Caufield projects as a top line sniper. Wright projects as a high-end 1C who can put up a lot of goals while also being an excellent 2-way guy. Plus centre is always more valuable than wing, particularly 1Cs (most valuable position in the sport). I’m not saying the Habs should do it, but it shouldn’t be dismissed out of hand, and to say Caufield is worth more is wrong.
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: aadoyle
Dubas turned a Dcore comprised of

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Polak

into

Rielly-Lybushkin
Muzzin-Brodie
Giordano-Liligren

While not the greatest GM he is far from being a bad GM.


Ya I agree.

Like nobody's saying he's better than Yzerman or Sakic (or if they are they're just wrong), but he's, at worst, and average GM.
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 32
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
I don't care, I wouldn't even do caufield for wright


Each to his own I guess but I probably would.
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 33
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Hold your horses pal... he's got a ways to go before he's on par with Marner.


Projects...doesn't mean he is there yet. That's just the type of player he could become, I think it's possible but he's more likely to become a good top 6 winger than an elite forward. I think that the only guys on Buffalo that really are going to be Elite top line talent are probably Cozens and Quinn. Peterka, Skinner, Krebs, Thompson and Olofsson all will be good top6 players. IMO.
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 33
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Not miles better than Fletcher, ok fair enough, you could argue Fletcher was better now that I looks at the moves he made, but he most certainly is miles better than JFJ, Burke, Nonis, and Lou.


What did Lou do that was awful beyond running off Reimer?
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 34
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Sorry, why is Dubas fault if the Leafs go out in the first round? Isn't it the players and coaching too. Since Pat Burns, the Leafs have some horrid GMs...and still suffering the consequences of those GMs, so please look at facts and don't blame all on Dubas.


its a loser troll, dont bite
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 35
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Wow, a lot of spiciness today, I see popcorn
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Really, Marchment lol, the trade was fine, just sucks he broke out on Florida. the Brown trade was needed to get rid of Zaitsev, and losing Trevor Moore was fine considering how you have good bottom 6 guys and got Campbell back who's been great


Campbell was great for half a season. Brown being traded was not inevitable. March menu never even got a chance and he was traded for a guy who is in Switzerland, it was an awful trade. I notice you ignored the Kadri trade, which is telling because that’s one of the worst trades I’ve ever seen the Leafs make in nearly 50 years of watching this franchise
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: Saskleaf
I'm assuming you're just trolling now lol.


What are you talking about? Marner has specifically said he wants to play in front of 1/4 of the fans he plays in front of Toronto now
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
What did Lou do that was awful beyond running off Reimer?


Zaitsev’s contract.
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 37
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its a loser troll, dont bite


I’ve been here before they know me. You’re a know nothing like Jared
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 39
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Ya I agree.

Like nobody's saying he's better than Yzerman or Sakic (or if they are they're just wrong), but he's, at worst, and average GM.


I think the more experience he gets the better chance he has of becoming a Gm like those two


As recently we have seen he can make some good trades and find diamonds in the rough in later draft rounds and free agency. His contracts have also got much better from where they were when he first started.
21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 40
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everyone is talking about what MSL is doing with habs, but is know one watching Oilers games? Jay Woodcroft has transformed the Oilers and unlike MSL Woodcroft has gotten the Oilers from outside a playoff stop to very comfortably in 2nd in the pacific
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
What did Lou do that was awful beyond running off Reimer?


Signing Zaitzev, Marleau, Martin, Polak, etc

Not drafting anyone good outside of the first round.

Refusing to get a good defenseman to play with Rielly (which just so happens to be a big problem people have with Dubas, even though he did get one in Brodie).
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21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 41
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Modifié 21 avr. 2022 à 15 h 49
Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Zaitsev’s contract.


And giving MARLEAU THAT EXTRA YEAR

Lou basically did the same mistake former Leafs managers were doing for years give an old guy to much money and term....

If Lou never signed Marleau Leafs in 2020 draft have two 1sts in the top 15.....
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