Ryan Suter buyout:

My profile pics are now 2/2.

Ryan Suter has joined a very exclusive club which features one other distinguished member: Tony DeAngelo.

Blackhawks should sign both of them as a 3rd pair

JT Compher has 70 playoff games; DeBrincat has 9, Larkin has 5. It's not a lot; but it's not zero.

Wonder if Reilly Smith would be a target for them also; think Penguins were shopping him iirc. Also wonder if playoff-caliber teams will kick tires on Josh Anderson (with retention).

VGK have Eichel, Hertl, Roy, and Howden who can be their C's if Karlsson is gone

DAL really dont have the assets that they would want to give for Marner nor TOR would want if it was not said assets

Finally, the NHL's worst player has been bought out! Bye bye Suter! Hopefully it means Tanev and Duchene are back next season since buying out Suter is what is needed to keep them.

maybe we get an excitement filled draft.

It feels like there’s a bunch of like “if you can’t find any better, then this is my offer and it’s good enough” situations. (McGroaty, Necas) And a lot of “if this doesn’t work out we have to go to plan B” situations. (Hurricanes, Vancouver, St. Louis? <—- my Homer bias, I feel like stl will be a seller and probably wants something they’re not going to get and will have to pull an ejection handle. I’d love them to add to the nhl roster but I get the sense they’re going to subtract. Saad and Faulk look very sellable for extremely modest returns. Buchnevich to Philly seems interesting - who would be better to skate with Michov?.)

Plus there’s Utah who just has too many picks and prospects imo.

Suter buyout has made my day

He isn’t better than Crosby… yet. He is more talented though that I just can’t deny.

Atleast a year too late. Still happy

Faulk is a dump. Not an asset

Faulk is a cap dump and will cost more to move than Mikheyev or Wahlman

Saad is the only one with value but its also not crazy

Myers is back in VAN

Dont mind the caphit. But he is going to be horrible atleast the final year. He had a fluke season. Soft big guy. He could be great, but has no killer mentality.

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Btw. When this site shuts down,is there a home for the orphans?

Gonna miss getting all the needed info and debating about it at same site.

Magi is a cap


I love it

Do have to kindly disagree on Faulk.

Walman is a gigantic liability for getting out of the zone. He’s had 0 seasons at 28 years old where he’s taken legit top 4 pairing minutes. It’s tough for him because he’s nowhere near effective enough at offense to overcome the fact that if he’s on the ice you just dump it to his side and feast. He’s a bonafide nhl defenseman who isn’t good enough at what teams specifically need, nor good enough to do what he does in the role that he would command. You can’t use him as a protected offensive weapon because he’s not good enough at offense and you cannot use him as a top 4 defenseman because he’s not good enough at defense.

Faulk has only skated top 4 minutes: his lowest season ice time was 20:30 awhile back which is way low for him and the only low number of his career. In those substantial minutes he is around average or better in most areas, just not superlative, the last 2 seasons in stl have been a revolving door for his partner. He and Parayko traded literal 20/21 year old late round picks at one point. Faulk is 2 seasons removed from Norris votes. I’m more than happy to keep him if there’s no deal.

I do not think either saad or Faulk are first round value, but, for example, Utah has 0 defenseman under contract. Another thought: I’d personally much rather have Faulk than Ceci. Really, the list of teams without 2 Bonafide rhd maybe longer than the list of teams with. I do not believe that stl would pay to eject him. I think there would be a modest return of picks (looking at Utah).

Dont need an essay to explain Faulk is a negative asset that you got to pay to move

Like neither is getting that kind of value lul

That Saros contract makes absolutely no sense

Maybe it makes him easier to move or increases the value idk

But feels weird given their window

If my choice was:

Trade a late 2nd for 2 years of saad or use a late 2nd at the trade deadline to acquire Tyler Toffoli, I’d choose Saad. Others would choose toffoli. Kinda the same guy.

Toffoli has gone for more than a late 2nd four different times. (A 2nd and 3rd this past deadline, sharongovich and a 3rd a year prior, a first plus 4 other assets the year prior, and a 2nd plus 3 assets 2 years prior.

I’m using my toffoli-o-meter on this one. Same price, give or take. Same role. Very similar results. Therefore: similar trade cost.

Can split hairs on the term or isolated characteristics, but it’s so close to me it’s kinda creepy. I give the bump to saad because he isn’t getting traded nonstop. If toffoli was such a great asset why does everybody trade him 12 months later. Dudes at 6 teams in 4 years and a pending ufa. Who’s lucky number 7.

Look what Mangiapane went for thats Saads comparable anymore = overpay

Like if were in 1st terrirory look elsewhere not worth

Toffoli also did better did Saad when he was traded so using him as the comparable not great

Saad

82gp 26 goals 16 assists 42 points

Toffoli

79 GP 33 goals 22 assists 55 points

Or if we go by general stats or PTG/G

Saad = 0.51
Toffoli = 0.70

Played less delivered more

I’m probably being tribal. I concede.

I do find it fun tho if you peel off the power play points then saad and Toffoli just finished the season tied with 37 points.

Like dont get me wrong I see Saad getting them value just not stupid crazy high value. But a 2nd coming back and 4.5m in cap space as a trade off aint bad