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(CGY/VAN) - Zadorov for 2024 5th (CHI), 2026 3rd (VAN)

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30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 44
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Fantastic for VAN
30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 52
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Remember when a Flame fan said 1st + over and over and over starting fights left and right

RIP

Knew this was gonna be the price
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30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 58
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
This is a fair deal though Calgary could get an L for mismanagement


Knew to set expectations to mid after the Toffoli trade

Like man all I kept seeing was 1st + 3rd for this guy but we all knew that was not the worth

This is right in the ballpark
30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 58
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Are Flames fans done pretending he's worth a first and a top prospect?
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30 nov. 2023 à 18 h 59
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Been calling it for weeks…

Hanifin = 1st + 3rd
Tanev = 2nd + 3rd
Zadorov = 3rd

(Always use the comps, people!)
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30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 1
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Geez, they could have done better here. Is everyone going to rush up to Calgary about their other UFAs now? Might be smart if they're selling so cheap.
30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 7
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Been calling it for weeks…

Hanifin = 1st + 3rd
Tanev = 2nd + 3rd
Zadorov = 3rd

(Always use the comps, people!)


Same

Now there is a chance Hanafin could go for more but yea thats about what I expect to see for Tanev
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30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 19
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
We are no where near the deadline and Flames didn't retain. The suitors that could actually afford him right now are pretty much non existent. I fully expected him to not be dealt until at least January


Lol nice just keep doubling down!
30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 23
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Fair, but wow Vancouver got a great deal
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30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 28
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Leaf fans about to blow a gasket…


Yep we are Zadorov was supposed to be ours!
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30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 31
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That’s it? That’s all it would have taken to improve our D?

Great W for Vancouver.
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30 nov. 2023 à 19 h 58
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Lol nice just keep doubling down!


Name 5 playoff teams that can afford him right now
30 nov. 2023 à 20 h 55
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Pretty fair deal. It's about middle of what an acceptable price range for Zadorov would be too me. Ranging from arounda 2 and change to a 3rd.

Although I think it benefits VAN in this particular trade.

Feel CGY, just made the move to make the move. Conroy doesn't seem to be a hard guy to negotiate with, could probably be milking a little more out of these trades.
30 nov. 2023 à 20 h 59
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Without retention, this seems fair IMO.
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30 nov. 2023 à 21 h 28
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Quoting: mondo
damn they missed out on a 1st + Liljegren from Toronto


Careful what you say, last time I posted about trading Liljegren, leaves fans got so mad at me and said he wouldn’t be traded unless McDavid++ was involved lol. (Wasn’t that bad but still overvalued by those certain fans)
30 nov. 2023 à 22 h 24
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Quoting: UpsideDownQue
What a strange time for Calgary to sell, should've waited until the deadline or at least until one of the multiple interested teams got desperate and offered enough to justify getting a deal done early. This is underwhelming


I suspect it has to do with the trade request. Calgary was also using LTIR and it's hard to facilitate trades as a seller when you aren't accruing cap space. On top of that Rooney and Pelletier are coming back soon
30 nov. 2023 à 22 h 26
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5 days ago I posted a Zadorov (%25 retained) to the Leafs for a 3rd and Steeves.

Not off by much.
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30 nov. 2023 à 23 h 18
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Leaf fans about to blow a gasket…


Nah the fact they passed on him seems to suggest they have something bigger in mind

The fact they wanted ret shows they dont just want to use Klingberg's cap hit on 1 move. As even with 4.15m freed Zadorov with 0 ret would eat that up

Either they want term if there is 0 ret or if they going for rentals want ret involved. Hanafin and Tanev most likely will be ret candidates

He would have worked coupled with a Tanev but alone here it just does not move the needle much
1 déc. 2023 à 0 h 14
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About 1 hour before this traded was posted on Capfriendly, I made a AGM about the Flames.

In it, I predicted Zadorov would be traded to the Canucks for their 2024 3rd.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4731771




FWIW, the Flames spent a 3rd to acquire Zadorov in the first place.

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/nikita-zadorov




And it is common for teams at the draft to spend a 5th round pick to jump up a few spots in the 3rd round.

https://www.capfriendly.com/trades?event=draft&round=3-5




The difference in value between what the Flames spent on Zadorov, what the Canucks spent on Zadorov and what I proposed in my AGM earlier is extremely negligible.

This is as fair as it gets.

Fair deal.
1 déc. 2023 à 0 h 40
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I hate that the Nucks had to trade another pick away, but this is a great deal, hopefully they can resign him or trade at the deadline for more than they paid. hes an overpaid very good bottom pairing guy- not quite top 4. this would make the bottom 4 (with a healthy Soucy) very big: Zadorov, Soucy, Cole, Myers. thats not bad at all.
1 déc. 2023 à 1 h 10
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Name 5 playoff teams that can afford him right now

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1 déc. 2023 à 7 h 6
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Love this move for us. Think flames fans are shaking their head at Conrad with this move and the Toffoli deal. I think the value is fair though.
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1 déc. 2023 à 8 h 12
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
Leaf fans about to blow a gasket…


Leafs want a difference maker not a bottom pair guy they would rather have tanev or hanafin
1 déc. 2023 à 8 h 13
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Quoting: Missouri
Careful what you say, last time I posted about trading Liljegren, leaves fans got so mad at me and said he wouldn’t be traded unless McDavid++ was involved lol. (Wasn’t that bad but still overvalued by those certain fans)


I would trade him for a top 4 dman and add too he wont become a top 4 guy on a conteneder.
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1 déc. 2023 à 8 h 49
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Where was Toronto? They could have paid more than that


Do they know that Klingberg is out for the season? I thought they were still trying to find out. If Klingberg might be back before the playoffs, taking on Zadorov's cap hit would be risky because they'd have to find a way to clear space for Klingberg when he returns. That wouldn't be as easy for them as it was for Vancouver.
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