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(NSH/EDM) - Ekholm and 6th for Barrie, Schaefer, 1st and 4th

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28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 5
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Little Birdy told me Trotz was behind this one.
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28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 6
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Barrie will be flipped for an even bigger return. Jezz
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 8
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I don't care if its a .0001% upgrade. McDrai's window is now and for morale, alone, it would have been a good move. Then, you consider that they both, McDavid and Draisaitl, need new deals in 3 years, this kind of commitment to winning is what will keep them in Edmonton and NOT holding on to lottery tickets because they could be worth something in 2026 when their contracts are up and they have all the cap space in the world. That isnt shortsighted either, Keeping the best players in the world happy will always come before some draft picks and mid prospects


Listen, If I'm McDavid or Drasaitl in 3 years, I look at this team will all of the old players on long term contracts, I'm not returning. Edmonton's window is right now, you're right. But moves like this are what would cause superstars to leave IMO.
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 8
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Poile needs to show Davidson how to trade. He rarely loses.
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 9
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Considering horw well Barrie has played this year, this trade doesn't make sense for the Oiler's.
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 13
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
How did they overpay? You would have crucified Holland had he done nothing! They had to give up something, other teams were bidding, they needed Ekholm badly.

Its TDL prices not the offseason. I dont see how they could have done better than this. Nashville also does well as they can flip Barrie next season or maybe this season for picks.

This is a win-win trade.

Barrie, I know, they could have still used but still they gave up nothing worthwhile for a legit prime top4 piece that they needed with size that can shutdown the opposition and we break up that Nurse-Ceci pairing.


Easy there big shoots, I agree with them going after Ekholm instead of Karlsson. Very well could be a win-win deal, but I'm willing to say that NSH got the better end of this deal (Provided NSH doesnt completely blow it up, which I hardly to be the case). I also loath Holland for the shambles he left the wings in.
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28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 17
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Quoting: Hollands_missing_brain
Really love this for EDM bc they now get to avoid Karlsson massive length of a contract. With that said, they over paid.


Ekholm is the same age as Karlsson and signed for 1 year less than Karlsson.

He'll be 33 in the playoffs .... and 36 when his contract expires.
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 18
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Oilers get arguably the best two way defender in the league. Lol


LMAO what did you just say?
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 20
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Listen, If I'm McDavid or Drasaitl in 3 years, I look at this team will all of the old players on long term contracts, I'm not returning. Edmonton's window is right now, you're right. But moves like this are what would cause superstars to leave IMO.


The only way this causes them to leave is because Barrie was a big part of the locker room. McDavid and Draisaitl dont care about draft picks.. AT ALL! They dont have long term contracts to old ppl, youre thinking of the Penguins, Malkin, Letang and Crosby all resigned so your theory has been tested. The Pens players didnt care.
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 28
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Used to be the offensive defensemen who were in high demand. Now we’re seeing Edmonton pay a pretty high price – a 1st-round draft pick, last year’s 32nd overall pick, an additional $1.5M per year in cap hit, and taking on a contract that’s probably one or two years too long – to upgrade from a very good offensive defenseman to one who’s more defensively oriented. I’m not necessarily saying it’s a bad move – it might be just the thing that the league’s best offensive team with a below average defence needs – but I don’t think we would have seen it in past years.
28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 30
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Ekholm is the same age as Karlsson and signed for 1 year less than Karlsson.

He'll be 33 in the playoffs .... and 36 when his contract expires.


The extra year and weight of the contract is a substantial difference, regardless of the this resurgence Karlsson is having
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28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Listen, If I'm McDavid or Drasaitl in 3 years, I look at this team will all of the old players on long term contracts, I'm not returning. Edmonton's window is right now, you're right. But moves like this are what would cause superstars to leave IMO.


What old players? Ekholm expires the year after. They're friends with Nurse, Nugent-Hopkins, and Hyman.

If Holland had stood pat this deadline I could see them leaving. They probably stay now provided Edmonton wins at least 1 cup in the next 3 years.
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28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 43
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Quoting: drewjenkins
LMAO what did you just say?


Is has been stated countless times Ekholm is one of the best two way dmen in the league.
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28 févr. 2023 à 19 h 52
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Poile is on a roll!!!
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28 févr. 2023 à 20 h 17
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Just give Poile GM of the year.

Nashville: Acquires a younger #4, a former 1st round pick, a 1st round pick, and a 4th.

Edmonton: Acquires a Older Injury Prone #3 that will hurt in year 3 & 4 of the contract. Might be a slight upgrade now, but holy **** is this bad long term.


your probably just upset that Holland didn't trade Bourgault for Edmundson like the Habs media told you he would

Bro what are you on right now, Ekholm is literally the exactly the kind of player the Oilers need, a legit top four Dman who can play LD or RD and is great defensively
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28 févr. 2023 à 20 h 23
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Quoting: jpsnow13
Barrie will be flipped for an even bigger return. Jezz


I literally had people tell me on here that Barrie was a Cap dump and that Oilers fans where crazy for thinking he had value
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28 févr. 2023 à 20 h 28
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your probably just upset that Holland didn't trade Bourgault for Edmundson like the Habs media told you he would

Bro what are you on right now, Ekholm is literally the exactly the kind of player the Oilers need, a legit top four Dman who can play LD or RD and is great defensively


Nawh. Edmundson would be a terrible trade for Edmonton to make, He's terrible. Edmonton got the right guy, just traded the wrong pieces to get him.
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28 févr. 2023 à 20 h 46
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Just give Poile GM of the year.

Nashville: Acquires a younger #4, a former 1st round pick, a 1st round pick, and a 4th.

Edmonton: Acquires a Older Injury Prone #3 that will hurt in year 3 & 4 of the contract. Might be a slight upgrade now, but holy **** is this bad long term.


He missed 8 games in the COVID-shortened season and 6 last season due to COVID protocol. Doesn't seem injury prone does it? Stand by EDM winning. Ekholm has been aging decently and his defense shouldn't be a problem 2-3 years from now. Physically and speed-wise, he's going to slow down, but his defensive awareness is likely to still be there.
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28 févr. 2023 à 20 h 51
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He missed 8 games in the COVID-shortened season and 6 last season due to COVID protocol. Doesn't seem injury prone does it? Stand by EDM winning. Ekholm has been aging decently and his defense shouldn't be a problem 2-3 years from now. Physically and speed-wise, he's going to slow down, but his defensive awareness is likely to still be there.


Was thinking of another defender for some reason (I'll change my comment), point still stands that he's 32 and showing signs of regression. I already agreed that he's better than Barrie, but now worth 2 first round picks. Holland overpaying as per usual. Better pray McDavid/Drasaitl stick around because they'll be a lottery team once those 2 players leave.
28 févr. 2023 à 20 h 51
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Quoting: JmoneyTalk
Is has been stated countless times Ekholm is one of the best two way dmen in the league.


Quoting: drewjenkins
LMAO what did you just say?


He is. It's just facts. Killer slapshot(when he takes it), good physically, can and has stopped his fair share of two on ones, shot blocking machine, doesn't get the credit on the stat sheet but he starts a lot of plays. He is one of the reasons(besides Josi), that our d-core has historically been one of the deepest in the league and our team is just a defensive PIPELINE. Weber, Subban, Muzzin, Suter, Jones and Girard have been just some that we've trained up.
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28 févr. 2023 à 21 h 54
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Quoting: CSStrowbridge
78 vs 72. Not a large upgrade.

https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1630700461698195459/photo/1

vs.

https://twitter.com/JFreshHockey/status/1630696634425171970/photo/1


The #1 thing Oilers struggle with is EV defence where Ekholm shows a ~60% improvement while playing against tougher assignments and with lesser teammates. A lot of Barrie's value was PP minutes but even then he wasn't really the main reason for the PP success.
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28 févr. 2023 à 22 h 56
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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
The #1 thing Oilers struggle with is EV defence where Ekholm shows a ~60% improvement while playing against tougher assignments and with lesser teammates. A lot of Barrie's value was PP minutes but even then he wasn't really the main reason for the PP success.


That's the point, right there. They can sacrifice a little offence for a better shutdown pair. There are always doubters which is fine but I'm quite shocked Holland didn't have to give up an A prospect or multiple 1sts+ when Edmonton usually has to 'overpay' for the players they target. This was more than a fair price with Ekholm being one of the biggest prizes at the TDL. Maybe holding on to all these 1st round picks finally paid off where he could sacrifice something for other than AA or Kulak.
28 févr. 2023 à 23 h 51
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Quoting: Bluetomorrow83
The #1 thing Oilers struggle with is EV defence where Ekholm shows a ~60% improvement while playing against tougher assignments and with lesser teammates. A lot of Barrie's value was PP minutes but even then he wasn't really the main reason for the PP success.


I don't disagree with you. I do think the Oilers got better, but not by a large amount. Certainly not by a 1st and a prospect.
1 mars 2023 à 2 h 32
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Ekholm has been remarkably healthy over the course of his career. He very rarely misses extended time. Barrie, on the other hand, has never played 80 games in a season. On the ice, he's rock solid on both sides of the puck and consistent. Barrie is a defensive liability. I'm not saying he's the final piece to the puzzle, but he's precisely what the Oilers need right now. Given Chychrun's history of injuries, this was the better play. Big W for Holland.
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I hope to be wrong but this has Muzzin 2.0 written all over it
 
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