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TDL Trades and draft

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Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 févr. 2023
Publié: 14 févr. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3850 000 $
2850 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Smith, Will
3950 000 $
Halttunen, Kasper
3900 000 $
Hrabal, Michael
3850 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Portillo, Erik [Liste de réserve]
BUF
  1. Tuch, Luke [Liste de réserve]
2.
MTL
  1. Foegele, Warren
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
Détails additionnels:
Puljujarvi cap dump and Foegele to balance salary cap
EDM
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Edmundson, Joel
  3. Struble, Jayden [Liste de réserve]
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
Improve defence and size for playoffs. Edmundson healthy.
3.
MTL
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Johnsson cap dump.
NJD
  1. Anderson, Josh
Détails additionnels:
According to insiders Hugues was offered a 1st and refused. So 1st plus prospect and cap dump.
4.
NYR
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
COL
  1. Monahan, Sean (3 187 500 $ retained)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (MTL)
Détails additionnels:
Monahan healthy.
6.
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
FLA pick top ten protected if in top ten than MTL 1st of 2024. Trade at draft.
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2023
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2024
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $71 187 499 $1 132 500 $6 340 000 $11 312 501 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Rangers de New York
875 000 $875 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 4
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2

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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 9
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The NJ trade left me breathless.

My god
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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 10
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Do you actually think Anderson is worth even half as much as Holtz? This is a ridiculous trade offer that the Devils don't consider for a minute.
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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 12
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There’s so much funny stuff here that I feel like it’s a disservice to even make my standard fare comments about how Monahan hasn’t played a game in over 2 months and you can’t just wave a wand to restore his value.

Bravo, what a thread.
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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 12
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Rangers would ask for Mysak or a 2nd.
14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 23
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Just because Hughes told reporters (your so called insiders) that they were offered a first for Anderson doesn't make it true at all. Hughes is just trying to bump up the trade value of Anderson. Of course insiders eat up this nonsense so they seem important. Hughes would have jumped at that offer for Anderson, and used that cap to get a better player.
You can be sure no such offer was made.
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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 35
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NJ isn’t the team dumb enough to offer that deal for Josh Anderson. Better players are available for that package
14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 37
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Quoting: Littlejerryseinfeld
The NJ trade left me breathless.

My god


Habs fans 🤣🤣🤣
14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 39
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Sabres might do something like that
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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 44
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As a Habs fan, that's too much for Anderson
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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 45
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Sayings you should know better than to accept:

"No, that puddle of liquid came from the car that was parked in EXACTLY THE SAME SPOT on the lot before this one."

"You can get in on this deal before anyone else."

"No, Charlie Brown, I'll hold the ball and you run and kick it."

"Hughes was offered a first and refused."
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14 févr. 2023 à 22 h 53
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Quoting: palhal
Just because Hughes told reporters (your so called insiders) that they were offered a first for Anderson doesn't make it true at all. Hughes is just trying to bump up the trade value of Anderson. Of course insiders eat up this nonsense so they seem important. Hughes would have jumped at that offer for Anderson, and used that cap to get a better player.
You can be sure no such offer was made.


im sure you sitting at home eating cheez-its knows more than the insiders.
14 févr. 2023 à 23 h 6
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im sure you sitting at home eating cheez-its knows more than the insiders.


"Insiders" are just paid guys who report what they want in order to clicks/readership or time on raid TV. That's how they make a living.
Yes, I'm sure insiders know more than me.
I feel sorry for you, that you believe everything you see in the media.
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14 févr. 2023 à 23 h 8
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The first and Kidney are a good start, the remainder needs to be replaced by pieces that would have value to the Jets like Beck/Dach/Roy something along those lines. Expensive bottom sixers and waiver fodder don't have any value to anyone.

The remainder of the deals are even more lopsided in Montreal's favor. None are close to realistic.
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14 févr. 2023 à 23 h 13
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So Kent was offered….

Anderson (50% retained)
2023 1st round pick (MTL)

For

2025 1st round pick (NJD)

…and declined because NJD wouldn’t add Johnsson.

(That’s what the insiders tell me)
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14 févr. 2023 à 23 h 29
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
im sure you sitting at home eating cheez-its knows more than the insiders.


Notice that you've gone from insiders being told something by Hughes to insiders "knowing" that the offer was made and rejected. Those are two wildly different and not necessarily connected things.

Let me ask you this: if one GM thought that Anderson was worth a first, then we can infer one of two things: (1) said evaluation was held by at least one other GM (i.e., a similar offer or offers were being or would be made), or (2) no other GM felt the same way (i.e., this was the best -- because it was the only -- offer Hughes was going to get). Now, what can we conclude are the likely ramifications of each possibility?

Here's what I think: if (1), then a smart guy like Hughes would realize that at some point the offers had leveled off, that the game of musical chairs was over, and that he would have to pick one before the band stopped playing. If (2), then when Hughes realized that he wasn't getting, or going to get, any other offers, he'd go back to that GM and re-solicit it. Or do you REALLY think that he's holding out for an offer of better than a first-round draft pick and expects those offers to start flooding in as the trade deadline approaches?
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14 févr. 2023 à 23 h 47
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Notice that you've gone from insiders being told something by Hughes to insiders "knowing" that the offer was made and rejected. Those are two wildly different and not necessarily connected things.

Let me ask you this: if one GM thought that Anderson was worth a first, then we can infer one of two things: (1) said evaluation was held by at least one other GM (i.e., a similar offer or offers were being or would be made), or (2) no other GM felt the same way (i.e., this was the best -- because it was the only -- offer Hughes was going to get). Now, what can we conclude are the likely ramifications of each possibility?

Here's what I think: if (1), then a smart guy like Hughes would realize that at some point the offers had leveled off, that the game of musical chairs was over, and that he would have to pick one before the band stopped playing. If (2), then when Hughes realized that he wasn't getting, or going to get, any other offers, he'd go back to that GM and re-solicit it. Or do you REALLY think that he's holding out for an offer of better than a first-round draft pick and expects those offers to start flooding in as the trade deadline approaches?


Anderson is available.
For 1st and top prospect.
Price hasn’t changed.
Been the same for months.

Also, my 1984 Oldsmobile is for sale.
For a $1 million.
Price hasn’t changed.
Been the same for years.

(I wonder why no one has bought the car though)
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15 févr. 2023 à 4 h 5
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So the trade deadline is in 3 weeks, somehow Monahan is going to go from a dude with injury problems being sold with a 1st to a guy who nets another first when he hasn’t played in over 2 months. MTL fans got to give the Monahan is worth a 1st ghost up. Anything they get for him is a bonus because they already got a 1st, the guy when healthy has proven he is nothing more than a bottom 6 guy.
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15 févr. 2023 à 6 h 21
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Do you actually think Anderson is worth even half as much as Holtz? This is a ridiculous trade offer that the Devils don't consider for a minute.


I don’t think NJ would pay that price but they are going to get absolutely WALKED in the playoffs. They need to seriously consider adding some muscle. You think Tom Fitzgerald didn’t ponder that when he saw Anderson drop the mitts after the hit on Suzuki last night? Anderson stock rising. 📈📈📈
15 févr. 2023 à 7 h 45
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Please start sending Monahan to Carolina. Some of their fans seem to have interest in other threads, the Avs shouldn't.
15 févr. 2023 à 8 h 25
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Quoting: palhal
"Insiders" are just paid guys who report what they want in order to clicks/readership or time on raid TV. That's how they make a living.
Yes, I'm sure insiders know more than me.
I feel sorry for you, that you believe everything you see in the media.


Quoting: NHLfan10506
So Kent was offered….

Anderson (50% retained)
2023 1st round pick (MTL)

For

2025 1st round pick (NJD)

…and declined because NJD wouldn’t add Johnsson.

(That’s what the insiders tell me)


Quoting: OldNYIfan
Notice that you've gone from insiders being told something by Hughes to insiders "knowing" that the offer was made and rejected. Those are two wildly different and not necessarily connected things.

Let me ask you this: if one GM thought that Anderson was worth a first, then we can infer one of two things: (1) said evaluation was held by at least one other GM (i.e., a similar offer or offers were being or would be made), or (2) no other GM felt the same way (i.e., this was the best -- because it was the only -- offer Hughes was going to get). Now, what can we conclude are the likely ramifications of each possibility?

Here's what I think: if (1), then a smart guy like Hughes would realize that at some point the offers had leveled off, that the game of musical chairs was over, and that he would have to pick one before the band stopped playing. If (2), then when Hughes realized that he wasn't getting, or going to get, any other offers, he'd go back to that GM and re-solicit it. Or do you REALLY think that he's holding out for an offer of better than a first-round draft pick and expects those offers to start flooding in as the trade deadline approaches?


crazy how all you guys think you're smarter than insiders. I bet you were all in the comments saying there's no chance the habs get a first round pick for chariot or a first round pick + for lehkonen last year even though that's what the exact same insiders were hearing and reporting all season long. wow you guys aren't very smart.
15 févr. 2023 à 9 h 7
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crazy how all you guys think you're smarter than insiders. I bet you were all in the comments saying there's no chance the habs get a first round pick for chariot or a first round pick + for lehkonen last year even though that's what the exact same insiders were hearing and reporting all season long. wow you guys aren't very smart.


Wow you mtl agms aren't very smart when it comes to Monahans value. Man's a walk pane of glass that got dumped because he was inconsistent with injuries and now he's been injured and you think you can get a 1st.
15 févr. 2023 à 9 h 25
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
crazy how all you guys think you're smarter than insiders.

You keep sliding from what "insiders" were told to what "insiders" know. I haven't heard of any "insiders" saying that Anderson is worth a first-round pick and more; I just keep hearing that Hughes supposedly told "insiders" that he was offered a first for Anderson and turned it down. Until you're able to understand the gulf of difference between those two things, discussing anything with you is pointless.
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15 févr. 2023 à 9 h 36
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
You keep sliding from what "insiders" were told to what "insiders" know. I haven't heard of any "insiders" saying that Anderson is worth a first-round pick and more; I just keep hearing that Hughes supposedly told "insiders" that he was offered a first for Anderson and turned it down. Until you're able to understand the gulf of difference between those two things, discussing anything with you is pointless.


well guess what, Kent Hughes was actually offered a first round pick for Anderson, and I'm not surprised about it. He's the type of player GM's drool over, without good reason.

Listen, if I was a GM, I would not want Anderson on my roster considering the term and size of his contract, but I'm by no means surprised an NHL GM would want him.
15 févr. 2023 à 9 h 37
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Quoting: Howie
Wow you mtl agms aren't very smart when it comes to Monahans value. Man's a walk pane of glass that got dumped because he was inconsistent with injuries and now he's been injured and you think you can get a 1st.


I haven't said a single word about monahan. and im the one who's not smart? lol
15 févr. 2023 à 9 h 48
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Quoting: MarcBergevin69
well guess what, Kent Hughes was actually offered a first round pick for Anderson

So you are saying that you know, first-hand, that someone offered Kent Hughes a first-round draft pick for Josh Anderson -- i.e., that you were standing there when the other GM made the offer, or that you were on the telephone call with Hughes when the other GM made the offer, or that you have read the e-mail from the other GM in which he made the offer.

Well, it's good to know that YOU're the "insider" who keeps supplying us with this information!
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