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Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 9 heures

Sujet: Retool

Let’s see 23yr old top pairing dman signed for 6 years and you think the Avs will take 30yr old dman who is a pending UFA a 27yr old pending UFA dman and a 2nd rd pick. That’s like an Avs ACGM proposing Suzuki, for Kadri and Burakovsky except that’s a better offer than the proposed trade. Gorton wouldn’t even propose such a horrible trade to Sakic because Sakic would never take his call again.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 12 heures

Sujet: Bo Horvat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>You missed his assist last night obviously. Picked off the ply in the neutral zone, beat Poolman to the outside, and sent it cross rink too pheoling for the easy goal.

Oh yeah and who was coasting through the zone completely missing their check on that play? BO HORVAT.

I rest my case your honour it’s obvious drouin is > that Horvat. No way Horvat could make and assist to an open man in front off a turnover</div></div>

You need help bro, no more puffs just pass.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGil y a 12 heures

Sujet: Stanley Cup

COL does that in heart beat.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 12 heures

Sujet: Jeff Gorton 2022 trade deadline

Hard pass on both COL trades. If MTL wants Girard think overpay because COL does not have to or want to trade him.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 12 heures

Sujet: Bo Horvat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>Nah man if Horvat is better then why was drouin taken shared of him in the draft? Plus drouin speaks French. That adds a premium to his trade value</div></div>
You are high. The draft was 8 yrs ago, Drouin after his issues last year basically has zero value.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: New direction

COL isn’t trading Byram. Especially since he is still on his elc.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: 3 team swap

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Yari</b></div><div>Martin Kaut is sneaky good in NHL 22

That has nothing to do with this trade, just thought Id mention it</div></div>

If he can ever get healthy and get a regular shot I like him. He has an ability (sometimes a liability) to play up (or down) to his linemates abilities. He just needs a consistent role and shift.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: Bo Horvat

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>Van needs to add. Drouin was taken 6 spots higher than bo Horvat on the same draft. Canucks need to pay to make up for the difference</div></div>
Whatever it is you are smoking I don’t know that it is legal even in COL. What does the 2013 draft have to do with Value? I’m not even a VAN fan and I can tell you that MTL has to add and significantly for VAN to consider. Horvat is a significantly better player.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: Bo Horvat

Avs country cheers!!!!! Drouin to someone else for an outrageous amount, MTL fans still fail to realize Drouin has basically no value.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 15 heures

Sujet: The oilers next season

Nobody is giving anything close to a tangible asset for a 39 yo goalie currently on LTIR. There is a better chance of me trading <a href="/users/coga16" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@coga16</a> to the MTL fan base for $1k.

Forum: Armchair-GMil y a 17 heures

Sujet: ah fudge 2022-2023 annee 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>habitantlecolon</b></div><div>why??</div></div>

Because if VAN is trading Miller they will want high picks and very good prospects, there is none of that here, and why would they want Hoffman?

SEA chose Grubauer to sign and passed on Price they aren’t changing their mind 6 months later.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMon at 11:49 pm

Sujet: Habs TDL

Why would AZ make a trade like that. Never mind I forgot the condition

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 10:24 pm

Sujet: ah fudge 2022-2023 annee 2

VAN would be a flat no, and if Seattle passed on Price in the XD don’t really see them trading assets for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 10:22 pm

Sujet: filip forsberg

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>As a Preds fan, Beecher doesn't really move the needle much for me either tbh. There are too many teams that could offer more exciting prospects, that I don't think BOS will be in the running, if NSH moves Forsberg.</div></div>
This if I’m NAS. Beecher screams bottom 6 pk guy to me, could be wrong but that’s my opinion.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 10:19 pm

Sujet: Starting to tank

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>With COL being in-division, not being able to offer a 2022 1st, and wanting retention, I think the Avs still have to add to that, but Helleson is absolutely the kind of prospect NSH should be looking for here.</div></div>

I get that but COL would want to try and have an extension in place at that kind of price. Just my opinion.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 10:18 pm

Sujet: Girard trade - COL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Foppa21</b></div><div>This. If Girard is moved, and that's a huge if, it'll be for a Kadri replacement this summer since odds are he'll walk for a more lucrative deal. While Vrana is a solid pick-up, he won't solve the hole at 2C once Kadri leaves.</div></div>

I think they are rolling Newhook at 2C almost hell or high water.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 10:16 pm

Sujet: Girard trade - DET

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>Definitely think it's a good fit for both teams. I don't know of too many other teams that could part with a winger as good as Vrana. Maybe Montreal with toffoli but who knows what direction they go now.</div></div>

Toffoli isn’t same tier as Vrana imo. The guys that come to mind are Beauvllier and Koenecny but that’s just my opinion.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 6:47 pm

Sujet: Girard trade - DET

I mean it’s the starting point of a discussion for sure. If COL were to ever entertain moving Girard they are going to want a scoring winger who is locked up long term imo. COL would justifiably ask for more imo, but it’s definitely in the ball park. Nice job of showing both teams.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 6:44 pm

Sujet: Girard trade - COL

Vrana is a nice starting point Stetcher doesn’t add a whole lot to off set the contractual differences. <a href="/users/mergus80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@mergus80</a> hit on it, Girard is right now like the 55th highest paid dman in the league locked into that price for SIX seasons. Plus what would his numbers look like if he were on PP1 45-50pts. I think Sakic could be talked into moving Girard but it is going to have to border on an over pay, it’s not like COL would hate a top 4 of Makar Byram Toews Girard for the next 3 years.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 6:38 pm

Sujet: Starting to tank

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>A Boston College kid, or a former teammate of L'Heureux - Poile would love it.</div></div>

Helleson and 1st? Personally I love Helleson he is something different than anybody the Avs have he is big skates and has a definite defense first element to his game.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 5:43 pm

Sujet: Start blowing it up How 2021 should end

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grnmtnman</b></div><div>Martin Jones would have by far the best save percentage on the Av's right now, and he is playing on a much worse team.</div></div>
Except I’ve watched Martin Jones for the last 6 years, and 7 decent games doesn’t even remotely begin to wipe off the stink of 3 sub .900 save percentage seasons or 5 consecutive seasons of a higher GAA than the year before. Yeah COL isn’t paying a cent for Jones in particular after giving up a 1st and really good prospect for Kuemper. Honestly it’s a laughable trade.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMon at 4:06 pm

Sujet: Gorton moves

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>1. Gallagher is NOT a cap dump and won't be moved as a package like this with JUST Girard coming back.

2. Kulak returns a 4th and Lehkonen a 3rd but IDK if Lehkonen will be moved

3. Price at half cap is worth WAAAAAY more than that. Swap the 3rd with a 2022 1st and it is closer.

4. On a closing note I don't think Gorton trades anyone NOT expiring this year</div></div>

COL wouldn’t trade Girard for Gallagher straight up, they wouldn’t trade him for that whole package. Gallagher is fine now, but where Girard is going to get better as his contract gets older Gallagher is not. Hard easy pass by COL. Girard isn’t available, and if you want him pay what CHI paid because Girard is better and cheaper than Jones.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMon at 4:04 pm

Sujet: Gorton moves

COL doesn’t do that trade even just for Girard. They have zero interest in Gallagher’s contract and have even less interest in Chiarot. Tell me how does adding $5M in cap space incidentally space they don’t have help them this year, and how does Gallagher’s additional 1.5M per help them re-sign MacK, Kuemper, Nichushkin, Burakovsky Byram, Newhook and for that matter why in the hell would COL add Olausson a 1st rd pick who is tearing up the OHL? Laughable and a complete pass. MTL doesn’t have the assets COL would want in any Girard trade even though he isn’t available.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon at 1:28 pm

Sujet: Chychurn Value Help

A bunch of spare parts doesn’t get you Chychrun. You really think a package that doesn’t include a 1st rd pick in 22 or 23 is going to even remotely interest AZ. They know they suck. They are embracing the suck. Because they are praying they end up with Wright or Bedard.

Forum: Fauteuil - DGMon at 1:25 pm

Sujet: Jeff Gorton cleaning session

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Korax</b></div><div>True, but I would give you Edmunson only if you take Gallagher... I guess I can remove Jost from the trade but yeah, the purpose of the move for montreal is to move 6,5M</div></div>
Why in the world would COL take a long term 6.5M contract knowing that in the next 2 off seasons they have to re-sign MacK, Byram, Newhook, Kuemper, Burakovsky, Nichushkin and make a decision on Kadri. The Avs have zero ZERO interest in Gallagher because of his contract. Avs literally laugh at this trade. I don’t get why it is so hard to propose trades that make sense for both teams, this literally helps the Avs zero but makes their cap situation worse and parts with their top d prospect to? Not good.

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