I read today that a trial is not expected until 2026.

Hockey Canada had put a blanket ban on the entire team for international events until a final verdict or conclusion was reached.

It’s probably a little early, but has anyone seen any updates on this ruling? If there is going to be a World Cup 2025, I imagine there would be some attempt to remove the other players who that have not been implicated. But have not seen anything about it.

I read today that a trial is not expected until 2026.

Hockey Canada had put a blanket ban on the entire team for international events until a final verdict or conclusion was reached.

It’s probably a little early, but has anyone seen any updates on this ruling? If there is going to be a World Cup 2025, I imagine there would be some attempt to remove the other players who that have not been implicated. But have not seen anything about it.

2026 is wild, Not only do the "victims" have to wait until 2026 for a ruling, but if these guys are innocent, that's 2 years off of their playing careers.

Wow. People should sabotage themselves for “change” is your basic thesis here. I have no desire to debate politics with you or anyone. You’ve made your politics incredibly clear. Mine are the opposite of yours so let’s leave that there. I also have no problem with nuking Hockey Canada and replacing every current employee. We

Here’s where I’m taking issue with you:
My issue with your approach is simple
“Have you no genuine empathy for the victims of these sexual assaults or are you so firmly entrenched as a product of your time that you cannot see this as anything other than "boys will be boys"?”

Let me tell you about the “product of time”, yes I’m from a different time, one where people were presumed to be innocent until a court of law found them guilty. This is one of the bedrocks of a society founded on constitutional law, monarchy or republic aside. This is as crucial to a democratic society as free speech is. I don’t know who you are other than some person on the internet but let me tell you about the times you’re living in, people are now destroyed in their private lives by ACCUSATIONS.

Accusation: a charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong.

Victim- a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action.

Now everyone today loves the sound of their voice and their opinion but the beauty of a language is that words having actual meanings free from our opinions. The people bringing forth these allegations are “alleged victims”. Those who have been accused are “alleged offenders”.

What scares the heck out of me is to see what you and most younger people (I’m not assuming your age other than doubting you’re my age) say… “the victims of these sexual assaults…”

Your lack of acknowledging that these are allegations and not facts is absolutely frightening. You have already made up your mind that 6 or 7 members of the 2018 Canadian junior team are rapists. That’s seems like a settled fact for you, which is absolutely mind boggling to me when we have absolutely no charges and no court proceedings at this point, yet you’ve skipped the indictment and trial and went straight to a verdict.

Why are you going to a guilty verdict on these players without as much as an indictment? Does that not make you wonder why you’re so comfortable jumping to this conclusion? Do you do this with criminal accusations? Or is it just high profile sexual assault accusations? I’m trying to understand this because our entire justice system is based off the opposite thinking.

I read today that a trial is not expected until 2026.

Hockey Canada had put a blanket ban on the entire team for international events until a final verdict or conclusion was reached.

It’s probably a little early, but has anyone seen any updates on this ruling? If there is going to be a World Cup 2025, I imagine there would be some attempt to remove the other players who that have not been implicated. But have not seen anything about it.

Hockey Canada is currently doing a report on the assault, I’d imagine, after their report is done, they’d remove the blanket ban and change it to the names they feel should be banned

2026 is wild, Not only do the "victims" have to wait until 2026 for a ruling, but if these guys are innocent, that's 2 years off of their playing careers.

I won’t be shocked if the case drags into 2028 considering the canadian legal system moves at about the speed of me waking up on a Monday morning

Wonder if pushing back World Cup another year or two becomes an option. Imagine there will be a lot of pressure to do that.

This is a legal issue for one country's governing body. I know Canada invented hockey, but they aren't the entire hockey universe anymore. If English futbol had the same problem how ridiculous would it be if they asked to delay the World Cup? I get it, you are trying to process the impacts but this is an overreaction.

To add, the only impact would be that Makar, Kyrou, Thomas and Hart can't play...

They'll still have other guys and more importantly;

Hopefully the Canadian Justice system punish those in violation of laws and don't punish who isn't based on fact

Innocent until proven guilty

1 - I'd imagine those temporary formality suspensions will be lifted before too long. Kyrou and IIRC Makar weren't even in town when this happened.

2 - I would not hold your breath for the verdict you're hoping for.

1 - Most likely, but I think even if they can't play, it's not like it's some travesty or something

Hmm. Probably would seem like a travesty to Kyrou, Makar, etc.

It would... But I'm saying in the grand scheme of things

2026 is wild, Not only do the "victims" have to wait until 2026 for a ruling, but if these guys are innocent, that's 2 years off of their playing careers.

It is wild. It appears this was investigate thoroughly a half decade ago. This was in the era of #MeToo, when prosecutors were giving all benefits of the doubt to the victim. They determined no charges were warranted.
Now that politicians get involved - surprise - charges ensue.
What happens if it's found these charges were politically motivated, and these 5 are innocent.
It will have cost these players north of $100M cumulatively in lost salaries and destroyed their lives.
In a just society, if they are found innocent, they should collect (between the 5 of them) about 1/4 Billion dollars for damages.

"Politically motivated"? Are these hockey players involved in politics?

No, but the whole situation is most definitely. Messier is 100% spot on.

not really, this situation was the catalyst for the changes at Hockey Canada, whether the player involved are guilty or not, hockey Canada using funds to pay for people's silence is unacceptable, and there's a reason why the public and sponsors wanted answers. I don't think anyone will say the changes at hockey Canada weren't warranted if it turns out these people are innocent

LPS don't look fantastic after that press conference. Reporters honed in a lot of questions on a) the length of the investigation, b) the process, results and review of the initial investigation and c) accountability from the police department.

Obviously because the case is ongoing, there are a lot of things that the Chief/Sargent weren't going to answer, but they definitely dodged a lot of questions related to the above three. The Chief had a big spiel about how the media's portrayal of women is a contributor to sexual assault (which was in response to a question about what the police department is doing to be better about address SA cases), and the next question he got was if an SA investigation taking six years was also a contributor.

As this goes forward and the details are revealed I don't think the initial LPS investigation is going to turn out looking great.

Criminal and civil proceedings are different in many ways, as I am sure you know. But there two separate issues related here….one is public right to know, another is public right to influence.

1. Should these types of cases be allowed to be settled out of court like any other civil case? Or should public interest force all parties, including victims, to publicly identify themselves? Should Hockey Canada, or any entity really, cover liability for their members? Should liability insurance be disallowed? If one seeking damages is then unable to recover them from individuals responsible, has justice been done?

2. Should external pressure or ‘catalysts for change’ or public opinion have an impact on civil cases? Should they have an impact on criminal cases? What if criminal investigations are inconclusive, but the public wants a guilty verdict? What if trial by jury finds innocence and public wants a guilty verdict? What if victim says innocent, public says guilty?

…sometimes the ‘change’ isn’t always for the better. Maybe a bunch of people with pitchforks can overturn the system…but I don’t think they will like the alternative.

But what do I know