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2021-2022 NHL Offseason Discussion Thread #9 - The Demise (Revival?) of Calgary

25 juill. 2022 à 23 h 36
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Nah


What’s next? Gallagher and a first for Cale Makar?
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25 juill. 2022 à 23 h 40
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I mean the stats don’t really bear it out. Dom had him going from slightly below average to slightly above average, but he also weights relative to team, and it’s not difficult to look above average when compared to the other Canucks D lol. Jfresh obviously had him stagnant, mostly due to poor zone entry denial/rush defense. But also on the offensive side, that’s his even strength play-driving, not point production. I think we’re on the same side in saying that a better D will improve his EV offense though. 31 of his points came on the PP. There’s really no reason he can’t get 50 even strength points every year too, and a more reliable partner would help with that. His defensive peak will be hard to determine until he gets that partner, because so far the only time he had a good partner, he didn’t do great defensively. He should be better now, but by how much is the question. Being an elite offensive guy and even average defensively would be great, but he can still get away with being mediocre defensively if that’s really all his ability is.


Your analysis is very fair. Hughes is still 22 so he still has a lot of work to do to become fully defensively responsible. He has taken strides but obviously there is always room to get better. As for offense, I cannot complain whatsoever. Not often do you see a 22 year old d man put up almost 70 points in a season playing alongside a depth d man. I think an improvement of a D partner will certainly help his point totals as he will be more free to make offensive rushes. I think with the additions to our top 9, we can be a very good offensive team. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hughes gets 75-80 points next season.
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26 juill. 2022 à 0 h 45
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Quoting: Juiceman
What’s next? Gallagher and a first for Cale Makar?


Great idea!
26 juill. 2022 à 0 h 54
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Who the f*ck said Noah Dobson was available 😂
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26 juill. 2022 à 1 h 5
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Who the f*ck said Noah Dobson was available 😂


He did
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26 juill. 2022 à 1 h 17
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Who the f*ck said Noah Dobson was available 😂

Man I really wish predatory offer sheets were more common. There’s no reason to not offer sheet Dobson honestly. He’s so good.
26 juill. 2022 à 1 h 33
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https://twitter.com/laurie14cd/status/1551616594463408129?s=20&t=M6RFxi9mYWrwbxXx9nU1Ow
Where's Savard now 👀
26 juill. 2022 à 1 h 38
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https://twitter.com/laurie14cd/status/1551616594463408129?s=20&t=M6RFxi9mYWrwbxXx9nU1Ow
Where's Savard now 👀

Laval?
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26 juill. 2022 à 1 h 40
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Laval?


He's our best RHD currently
So your joke doesn't even make sense
26 juill. 2022 à 1 h 53
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
He's our best RHD currently
So your joke doesn't even make sense

that’s not a good thing
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26 juill. 2022 à 2 h 24
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that’s not a good thing


Did I say it was?
26 juill. 2022 à 2 h 25
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Did I say it was?

Laval Canadiens
26 juill. 2022 à 2 h 28
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Laval Canadiens


Sens fans are just like Leafs fans
The minute your team starts to look good, you get all confident and sh*t on other teams
As Leafs fans have learned
You will learn the hard way
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26 juill. 2022 à 2 h 40
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Sens fans are just like Leafs fans
The minute your team starts to look good, you get all confident and sh*t on other teams
As Leafs fans have learned
You will learn the hard way

…imagine telling a Sens fan to learn the hard way lmao
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26 juill. 2022 à 6 h 14
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Dubois wants to retire at like 33? If he says his next contract could be his last…
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26 juill. 2022 à 6 h 39
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Dubois wants to retire at like 33? If he says his next contract could be his last…


i think he just wants to test the market in his prime. get that bag of money.
26 juill. 2022 à 7 h 31
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3 Worst Contacts in the NHL according to The Athletic,
1. Seguin
2. Seth Jones
3. Skinner
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26 juill. 2022 à 7 h 54
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3 Worst Contacts in the NHL according to The Athletic,
1. Seguin
2. Seth Jones
3. Skinner


I’d easily put Bob or Vlasic on this list, at least guys like Jones are serviceable
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26 juill. 2022 à 7 h 55
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3 Worst Contacts in the NHL according to The Athletic,
1. Seguin
2. Seth Jones
3. Skinner


did they say what metric they used or was it a vote?
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26 juill. 2022 à 8 h 7
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I’d easily put Bob or Vlasic on this list, at least guys like Jones are serviceable


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did they say what metric they used or was it a vote?


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Dom's model uses market value and he projects there value over the length of there contract. Vlasic was 4th, Bob wasn't included. Surprise player included was Suzuki, projecting that he will be worth -22.3m less after the end of his total contract. His MV is 4.5m.
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26 juill. 2022 à 8 h 11
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Quoting: Alfie11
yeah but they don’t post a percentage number on twitter for me to base my entire opinion of every hockey player on 😤😤

fr tho idk how I’m supposed to take their data into account without paying for it, which I don’t do. So I’ll use whatever jfresh posts on twitter, dom’s cards because I sub to the athletic, and whatever digging I feel like doing on natural stat trick or moneypuck as far as advanced stats go, to support the eye test and scouting reports, and I haven’t yet seen anything to support him being good at denying zone entries, and he’s not got the size to be an effective in-zone defender that boxes guys out. Good at puck retrievals though, presumably because he can use his speed to get there first and carry it out. It doesn’t help that one of the only canucks games I remember watching this year was a sh*tshow against philly where literally not a single defenseman on either team ever at any point in time did a single thing right lmao


You can access WAR numbers on EH without paying for it, just not the graphs
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26 juill. 2022 à 9 h 8
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Quoting: Alfie11
Man I really wish predatory offer sheets were more common. There’s no reason to not offer sheet Dobson honestly. He’s so good.


Isles would be able to match pretty much any offersheet tho
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26 juill. 2022 à 9 h 9
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Quoting: DucharmetheDOMinator
Sens fans are just like Leafs fans
The minute your team starts to look good, you get all confident and sh*t on other teams
As Leafs fans have learned
You will learn the hard way

Imagine thinking Josh Anderson is worth anywhere near Noah Dobson
You will learn the hard way
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26 juill. 2022 à 9 h 18
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Quoting: AndrewLadd
Imagine thinking Josh Anderson is worth anywhere near Noah Dobson
You will learn the hard way


He isn't, but Lou is Lou & there's rumours out there
26 juill. 2022 à 9 h 33
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He isn't, but Lou is Lou & there's rumours out there


I’ve seen zero rumors lmfao
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