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Nylander Trades I Would Accept

Créé par: DougieGilmour
Équipe: 2022-23 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 26 mai 2022
Publié: 26 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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TOR
  1. Thompson, Tage
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
2.
TOR
  1. Mangiapane, Andrew [Droits de RFA]
  2. Ruzicka, Adam [Droits de RFA]
CGY
    Nylander
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    TOR
    1. Jarvis, Seth
    2. Lorentz, Steven [Droits de RFA]
    Détails additionnels:
    Nylander
    CAR
    4.
    TOR
    1. Francouz, Pavel
    2. Lehkonen, Artturi [Droits de RFA]
    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
    COL
      Nylander
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      TOR
      1. Bourque, Mavrik
      2. Dellandrea, Ty
      3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
      DAL
        Nylander
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        TOR
        1. Bertuzzi, Tyler
        2. Smith, Givani
        3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (DET)
        DET
          Nylander
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          LAK
            Nylander
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            1. Myers, Philippe
            2. Tomasino, Philip
            3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (LAK)
            NSH
              Nylander
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              10.
              TOR
              1. Beauvillier, Anthony
              2. Cizikas, Casey
              3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (COL)
              NYI
                Nylander
                11.
                TOR
                1. Kakko, Kaapo [Droits de RFA]
                2. Reaves, Ryan
                3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
                NYR
                  Nylander
                  12.
                  TOR
                  1. Brown, Connor (1 500 000 $ retained)
                  2. Gustavsson, Filip
                  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
                  OTT
                    Nylander
                    13.
                    TOR
                    1. Frost, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
                    2. Konecny, Travis
                    3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
                    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PHI)
                    PHI
                      Nylander
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                      TOR
                      1. Blueger, Teddy
                      2. Jarry, Tristan
                      3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (PIT)
                      PIT
                        Nylander
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                        TOR
                        1. Balcers, Rūdolfs
                        2. Nieto, Matt
                        3. Reimer, James
                        4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
                        SJS
                          Nylander
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                          TOR
                          1. Kyrou, Jordan
                          2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (STL)
                          STL
                            Nylander
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                            TOR
                            1. Dadonov, Evgeni
                            2. Kolesar, Keegan [Droits de RFA]
                            3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (VGK)
                            VGK
                              Nylander
                              18.
                              TOR
                              1. Scheifele, Mark
                              2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (STL)
                              WPG
                                Nylander
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 37
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                                Lol. I'm sure you would accept those. The only problem is, none of them would ever be offered.
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 39
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                                These a mostly terrible and why are some of the trade so much worse than others
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 39
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                                Quoting: Windjammer
                                Lol. I'm sure you would accept those. The only problem is, none of them would ever be offered.


                                A couple of them would but not many
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 41
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                                Yeah and Carolina would want minimum Marner half retained for a package involving Jarvis, or more ideally, the Hart Trophy favorite. Realistic? No. But it's about as realistic as asking for him for a player that he's on pace to just straight up be better than.
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 41
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                                Quoting: csick
                                A couple of them would but not many


                                Oh yeah, I took a better look. You are correct there are maybe a few.
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 42
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                                Sharks 100% accept.
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 42
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                                We won't be trading 2 RWs for one, but would you accept our 2022 first (19th overall) in place of Arvidsson?
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 43
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                                Sharks say yes, assuming they can make the cap work.
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 44
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                                A lot different values in these trades. I think you were aiming for equal value but that's not what the Leafs need. They don't need 2nd and 3rd round picks. They need 30+ goal scorers who compliment others on the team or two players who would combine for equal value.

                                If they lose others like Kase, Mikheyev, Engvall they will need to make up those goals as well.

                                Leafs need a bigger and better D, maybe more grit up front. But players that fit the bill aren't available (Jeannot, Wilson, Perry, etc)
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 45
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                                The problem with posts like this is the values vary so much. Like the Colorado trade is just bad for Toronto but Winnipeg gives up a top Center, pick like 3 teams who make sense and work it.
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 47
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                                Quoting: Caniac2000
                                Yeah and Carolina would want minimum Marner half retained for a package involving Jarvis, or more ideally, the Hart Trophy favorite. Realistic? No. But it's about as realistic as asking for him for a player that he's on pace to just straight up be better than.


                                based on?
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 52
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                                Quoting: Ottawasean
                                A lot different values in these trades. I think you were aiming for equal value but that's not what the Leafs need. They don't need 2nd and 3rd round picks. They need 30+ goal scorers who compliment others on the team or two players who would combine for equal value.

                                If they lose others like Kase, Mikheyev, Engvall they will need to make up those goals as well.

                                Leafs need a bigger and better D, maybe more grit up front. But players that fit the bill aren't available (Jeannot, Wilson, Perry, etc)


                                Some of the trades are basically straight hockey trades (like St Louis) and they wouldn’t happen. The problem with most Nylander trades is that they go for futures but futures don’t help us win now
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 53
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                                Center position vs a predominant winger has to be a factor, also contract status and a year away from being a rental is also a factor. Some of these definitely have the adds on the wrong side, when I would question a straight up trade. But got some conversation so definitely doing something right.
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 53
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                                Not even remotely close for buffalo
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 53
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                                Quoting: Jfstompers
                                The problem with posts like this is the values vary so much. Like the Colorado trade is just bad for Toronto but Winnipeg gives up a top Center, pick like 3 teams who make sense and work it.


                                The Colorado trade is bad? Not the first one I would take but I don’t think getting a pretty solid goalie back is ever a bad return for us.
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 55
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                                Quoting: vr1995
                                based on?


                                Ah you don't watch Canes games. Ah well.
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 55
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                                Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
                                Not even remotely close for buffalo


                                In what sense? Tage is great and he’s going to get better, but Nylander has shown what he’s capable of for more than 5 years now
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                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 57
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                                Quoting: DougieGilmour
                                In what sense? Tage is great and he’s going to get better, but Nylander has shown what he’s capable of for more than 5 years now


                                Because he has way way way more value than nylander. Do you think other GMs don’t watch?
                                26 mai 2022 à 16 h 59
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                                Quoting: CMcAvoy73
                                Because he has way way way more value than nylander. Do you think other GMs don’t watch?


                                He had one breakout season.
                                26 mai 2022 à 17 h 4
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                                Quoting: DougieGilmour
                                He had one breakout season.


                                Then how is he only one 4th round pick worse than Nylander?
                                26 mai 2022 à 17 h 7
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                                Quoting: CMcAvoy73
                                Because he has way way way more value than nylander. Do you think other GMs don’t watch?


                                Well....maybe. it really depends what you value. Thompson had an amazing season...but only 1. There are lots of players with one good season. Nylander has multiple seasons at 20+, two over 30 and was a point per game player even with playing third line minutes at times. They play different games with Thompson being a big guy and Nylander is a speed and skill.

                                But I don't see how moving Thompson for Nylander makes an impact on Buffalo at or more than Thompson.

                                If Thompson was a contract hold out this trade makes a lot of sense all of a sudden.
                                26 mai 2022 à 17 h 10
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                                Quoting: Caniac2000
                                Ah you don't watch Canes games. Ah well.


                                i asked a valid question and youre getting all pissy lmao, can you not tell me?
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                                26 mai 2022 à 17 h 13
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                                Not going to break down every single trade but all in all these are solid trades if Nylander was traded. A few of them (like the SJS and NSH trades) are low offers for Willy Ny though.
                                26 mai 2022 à 17 h 14
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                                Quoting: DougieGilmour
                                He had one breakout season.


                                Same can be said of nylander. 60 point guy that had one point per game campaign. Thompson has more upside.
                                26 mai 2022 à 17 h 15
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                                Quoting: vr1995
                                i asked a valid question and youre getting all pissy lmao, can you not tell me?


                                Buddy, that's like asking me to explain why I wouldn't trade Slavin for Nylander. Watch a Canes game and your question answers itself.

                                Jarvis put up 40 points and had a roughly 50-point pace as a 19-year-old rookie. He started the season on the 4th line and has been the most dependable Canes forward for months. His two-way game for a teenager is incredible, already tasked with killing penalties and playing against the extra attacker, and he's done that with very little powerplay time. He's been absolutely unreal. The fact you didn't know any of this shows me that you watch no Canes games and aren't worth talking to about Canes players because you're going to base your opinions entirely off the stats.
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