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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:17 pm
Sujet:
Taking a run at hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DRshnuckels87</b></div><div>Yeah we wouldn't be a contender currently but once guys like broberg and bouchard can become all star level guys maybe I would say with this roster we are. Also this is only if hamilton hits the market which I dont expect him to.</div></div>
Dougie said he wants to stay in Carolina, which makes me think he won't. I also still wouldn't buy EDM as a contender. Not until that goaltending is sorted. You're in the same boat as Carolina when those defenseman develop. You just need a goalie.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:15 pm
Sujet:
Taking a run at hamilton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ConnorMcHellebucyk</b></div><div>Source? I heard he was considering moving.</div></div>
https://www.nhl.com/news/dougie-hamilton-wants-to-stay-with-carolina-hurricanes/c-319996148
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:13 pm
Sujet:
Future Jackets
Pesce is untouchable. That was confirmed months ago.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:13 pm
Sujet:
Taking a run at hamilton
Other than the fact Dougie has said he wants to stay in Carolina and is willing to take a discount to remain with Slavin.... you're still not a contender 😁😁
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:10 pm
Sujet:
New Flames
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>so we give up 5 roster players and our best prospect for foegele, lemieux, and a few mid-round picks? I think I'll pass, we're contenders not sellers</div></div>
Other than the fact CGY aren't contenders (there isn't a contender in the north division, fight me), this is very true.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Wed at 12:07 pm
Sujet:
Ok fine rebuilding Nashville for the second time today
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Clearly you're a big fan of Pashin, and that's great! I get the feeling he was on your radar even before the draft, and it's awesome when your fav team selects a prospect you're already a fan of. It's just that if any GM felt he was worth being selected in the 2nd round, someone would have taken him then, or shortly after. 31 NHL teams (including CAR) didn't feel that way. That's not to say he can't/won't make it or that his stock won't rise as he develops, but if you're thinking his trade value right now is close to a 2nd, I'm afraid it's not. He hasn't played nearly enough since the draft (no one has) for opinions to change that drastically on any prospect.
I'm pretty high on Gunler, and he was on my shortlist of prospects I hoped NSH would take in the 2nd round. Bokk seems like much less of a sure thing to me. To each their own. But yeah, to me neither would be an ideal main piece for Arvidsson. Given that NSH still sees themselves as a contender (I have serious doubts about that, and wish they started a rebuild at the last deadline) and made moves in that direction this summer, trading Arvidsson isn't likely at all right now anyway. Maybe in the offseason or at the deadline if they bottom out, but they have to give the current lineup a chance first.</div></div>
Every single mock draft I could find had him going no later than 45th. He fell 144 places. That's not because he's bad, it's because he's smaller than Grimaldi. He was on a line with Amirov, and with the New Jersey pick who's name I cannot spell. He wasn't someone I particularly cared about. He would have been a good 2nd round pick. I could have seen him falling to the 4th or 5th. But to the 7th is beyond a steal. EVERYONE knows his talent level. He's got genuine top 6 upside, and should NEVER have fallen like he did. He's already playing with the MHL right now. 31 games played and 38 points, and just playing with people. He's incredible.
Gunler sounds like someone you rated highly, which might be why you see the difference between the two, but the truth is, Bokk may even be better. Bokk (on a significantly worse team) tallied far better at his last WJC's than Gunler did this year, yes I know Bokk was a year older and we'll see what Gunler does next year, but that's not a good start for the swede. Bokk's domestic play has struggled, but he's been so badly misused, it's beyond a joke. He's on the 3rd line and being told to play as a grinder, which harms his talent more than it could ever help his development.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 4:00 pm
Sujet:
Ok fine rebuilding Nashville for the second time today
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>herzausstein</b></div><div>Didn’t notice that pashin was grimaldi small. Yeh teams tend to stray from that small of prospects since the NHL as a whole has been trending towards prototypical power forward types.
Bokk reminds me a lot of Tolvanen and while that’s an interesting piece it’s too much boom or bust for my taste.
Honestly I viewed the main piece being Bean and the pick and I thought that was fine from Nashville’s perspective. I thought Gardiner was a cap casualty to even out the cap hits since he’s being paid a huge amount for a 3rd pairing role. If there’s a different cap dump of sorts that’s similar in cap I’d be game personally.</div></div>
I'm going to go backwards here because I could gladly talk about Pashin for hours.
Gardiner has been on the ice for 3 of the Canes 5 even strength goals so far. He's not a "cap casualty". He's a very good offensive defenseman. He didn't even have a down year last year and people started trying to murder him because he was a big minus. He's not scored a point in a Canes win since the David Ayres game (in the regular season). While I know that isn't a large sample size, it does show you that he is VERY important to this team in the way that he plays. If you're looking for a cap casualty, someone like Niederreiter may be more desirable. He's having an up year so far, and his value may help contribute to a player package like this.
Bokk is very talented. He's a good player and I don't think that he's as boom or bust as Tolvanen. He's got that great shot, which will make him a desirable piece to anyone.
Pashin dropped because he's shorter than most players sticks. Not because he's a 7th round talent. A lot of scouts had him going in round 2. He fell to pick 199. He wasn't expected to be that low.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 3:50 pm
Sujet:
Fleury
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Only time I’ve ever heard of someone using their NMC was Kadri, maybe it happens more often but I feel like the players don’t have as much say as we think they do</div></div>
Players have as much say as we think they do. It's just a business of good guys who tend not to use it because they know what is best for their organisations.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 3:15 pm
Sujet:
Ok fine rebuilding Nashville for the second time today
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Having read up on Pashin a little now, it sounds like CAR found a nice prospect, relative to his draft position. I don't think he has the trade value of anything near to a late 1st/early 2nd though. If any GM felt his value was anything close to that, he would have been selected well before the 7th round. Maybe he exceeds expectations, but it would take at least a season or two for him to be able show he's worth more than a late round pick.
Gunler is nice. Bokk is too (but there's a big gap between the two). Neither is enough to be the main piece in an Arvi proposal for me though.</div></div>
Pashin is was ranked as one of the best prospects going into the draft. Scouts love him. He fell because he's tiny. Not because he's a bad kid. He's VERY talented going forward, although he does have some issues defensively. He was projected to be a 2nd rounder. He fell to the 7th. That doesn't mean he's not good enough to have gone in the 2nd round because it's quite wrong, and that is the approach you are taking here.
Gunler and Bokk are very similar, I don't think you truly know the quality of each piece if you think there's a large gap between the two. However, if neither are a starting piece, then I do not see a way in which a deal can be made.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 3:00 pm
Sujet:
Retooling the Defense and Forwards While Keeping Draft Picks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>I sort of went for an in-between scenario here between best and worst case. I agree, though, he's looked great so far.</div></div>
If he keeps going, I think maybe something like the Ottawa 2nd and Crouse is fairer... but if he slows down, this might be fairer.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 2:38 pm
Sujet:
Retooling the Defense and Forwards While Keeping Draft Picks
This makes no sense for Carolina. Nino is looking like he's going to have an up year (fingers crossed) which means he could very well put up 30-40 points in 56 games. He is worth more than that if he has an up year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 2:33 pm
Sujet:
Ok fine rebuilding Nashville for the second time today
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Pashin is your best prospect? Admittedly, I don't know anything about him, but he was a 7th round pick just this past off-season. I thought the OP just threw him in the proposal as a very minor depth piece. Bean is a nice piece, a 1st would be a given if Arvidsson was being traded for futures, I view Gardiner as an unnecessary (to NSH) salary dump.
CAR would love Arvidsson, but I don't see them offering a Suzuki or Jarvis for him, and without a high end prospect like that, someone else would outbid them. There are enough teams that need a guy like Arvidsson more than CAR does.</div></div>
Pashin was a 2nd round projected pick who fell like a stone. He's currently over a PPG in the Russian MHL (equivalent to juniors) and is getting games in both the VHL (Russian AHL) and the KHL. He's incredibly great going forward, and fell a lot because he's 5'7. He could easily have gone in the late 1st/early 2nd. He is an incredible talent.
I understand that Arvidsson would be an expensive piece, but I would imagine a more suitable center piece is someone like Bokk or Gunler, who are both naturally gifted scorers. While depth scoring is a SERIOUS need for the Hurricanes (yes, it is their major need, not goaltending) I can't see it for this price.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 2:02 pm
Sujet:
Insane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Winnipeg says no.</div></div>
Winnipeg want Pesce LOL. Carolina said he was untouchable. Carolina say no.
All in all, this is pretty bad. Gardiner is worth a fair bit and has probably been Carolina's best defenseman this season so far (yes 3 games) Skjei won't be picked over Bean and Staal isn't a cap dump. We do not need Ristolainen, Laine or Murphy. We have a stacked defensive pipeline. Barkov is the only one here that makes any sense to target. But... maybe not.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue at 1:59 pm
Sujet:
Ok fine rebuilding Nashville for the second time today
That is a LOT for Arvidsson... I don't know that Carolina would entertain this. Pashin right now is the organisations best prospect (currently playing, and in terms of production) Bean AND Gardiner... it would hurt a LOT to lose them both. I just don't think this works.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 12:28 pm
Sujet:
If I was hired today lineup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NTanger19</b></div><div>Srry that doesn't get u Pesce so u keep Brodie. Pesce isn't a top 2 guy. He is a high end 3rd D-man</div></div>
So you don't know Brett Pesce! Look at his RAPM over the last 3 years, there's VERY few better.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon at 12:27 pm
Sujet:
If I was hired today lineup
Pesce is untouchable. That was said publicly. So it's going to take more than spare parts to gather Carolina's interest. Try Nylander as a starting piece. Otherwise, get lost.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun at 9:06 pm
Sujet:
nashville bluelines oml
They wouldn't have Weber AND Subban. They traded Weber for Subban.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri at 3:51 pm
Sujet:
Mixed with another AGM I saw
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shifttee</b></div><div>I would imagine WPG is a clear no,
Diff between wheeler and Barkov is not a 1st, let alone Perfetti,
Honestly at the point I rather keep Pionk over Yandle, especially if your asking for a steep add
The more i look at it, that WPG trade is extremely lopsided toward FLA</div></div>
That is a lie. Barkov is FAR better than Wheeler on a far better contract at a better part of his career. This trade is bad, but not for the reason you say it is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 jan à 17 h 49
Sujet:
Extracting blood from a stone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>Hey Sherlock they counted as playoff stats and records there playoff played under playoff rules</div></div>
Nope, they counted as POSTSEASON. Not playoffs. There is a difference
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 jan à 17 h 37
Sujet:
Extracting blood from a stone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>Do you have some short term memory problem I don’t know about? Didn’t they just get bounced in their 2nd playoff round by Boston in 2020? Hearing cypress hill in the background</div></div>
Nope. 1st round of the playoffs. Play-ins aren't playoffs sherlock
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 jan à 17 h 27
Sujet:
Extracting blood from a stone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bolts_Fan_Dan</b></div><div>They still finish 2nd in the division and playoffs bracket.loose in 6 to Tampa Bay eventual B2B champs</div></div>
Carolina have never lost in the 2nd round. If they get past round 1, you're going to be bitterly disappointed my friend. They either go deep or bottom out.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 jan à 17 h 22
Sujet:
How well would this team fare in the East
Fringe playoffs. Good team, east is just a BLOOD BATH
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 jan à 17 h 01
Sujet:
Blockbusters Lets go for a Cup
Carolina have already said no to this IRL, why would they change their mind for a player who wants out?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 jan à 16 h 29
Sujet:
Yandle ideas
Carolina don't have the cap or the need.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 jan à 13 h 06
Sujet:
Leafs Deadline Deals
Carolina give you a Stephen King level of horror description on where to shove this offer.
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