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Forum: Armchair-GM7 avr. à 3 h 48
Sujet: Sharks in 2024 Land Celebrini Sign Reinhart Hanifin Pesce Trade Ferraro
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Letsgosharks</b></div><div>I understand your posts but, do you really think it is a good idea to sign reinhart 9+mill until he is 36? these are exactly the deals we made moves to get out of. If we were to sign someone like this, the Meier trade, the hertl trade, the Karlsson trade would have never happened. Our goal is to have a young team built from within.</div></div>
Not necessarily true. Trading EK65 and Meier 1) allowed the team to properly tank for Celebrini (or another high-end prospect at #2 or #3) and 2) netted back assets to a rebuilding team like Mukh, Musty, Zetterlund, PITT 1st, etc. It wasn't just getting out of their big contract situations that were main factors in their deals. If the Sharks could get guys like Hanifin and Reinhart essentially for free as UFAs, they absolutely would -- 7 or 8 years be damned (someone said it in another comment, that's just what it takes to sign these guys).

That said, like the other comments have said, it's unlikely those guys would consider signing with SJ. On the other hand, landing Celebrini would be a BIG pull for those guys (coupled with SJ's other promising young talent), as would the fact that money speaks and Sharks would outbid other teams if they really wanted to help Celebrini and the young team to have a few excellent guys to help lead this new team.
Forum: Armchair-GM4 avr. à 20 h 24
Sujet: Sharks Set Up Well in 2025 After Landing Celebrini Signing Draisaitl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DFinn91</b></div><div>Do you really think it’s the best idea to sign a 30 year old for 7 years at 14.5M a season?

Also, Ferraro is still on our top pair? I’m sorry but I don’t think Ferraro will ever be a good top pairing defenseman.</div></div>
Draisaitl is a top-5 player in the league, I think it's a safe bet that at least the first 5 of those years will be more than fine. I think this particular signing depends on the Marner situation too with the Leafs, as well as Smith's projection as a RW or center since Smith to RW has started becoming a greater point of conversation recently. Either way, I think Sharks make a push for one of them as big a FA addition to the team, especially with all that cap space and the younger kids being ready by that point to receive some support to help their development.

Regarding Ferraro, you're right. Thrun I don't think will belong on the top pair either and Mukhmadullin I think rounds out as a 2nd pairing guy, and I especially don't see him getting top pairing minutes in (what should be) only his 2nd year. Ferraro at least has some experience. It's a weakness on this roster but at least paired with a guy like Pesce shouldn't be egregiously terrible.
Forum: Armchair-GM1 avr. à 20 h 32
Sujet: SJ After Drafting Levshunov and Helenius in 2024 and Signing Draisaitl in 2025
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I guess some team might offer Leon that contract. But a 30 year old player for seven years, does have danger</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Overpaying 30 year olds is a time honored tradition in San Jose. Or this is Doug Wilson's burner account.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I was going to mention that.
But it seems to be something that many CF followers seem to have. Now admitting there are some even many, players that play effectively to age 35. But may decline at age 32 or so.
Seems foolish to pay a guy (not necessarily Draistail) who peak at age 29, then to offer them a huge long term deal at 30.
Gonna be interesting who signs Draisaitl, or even McDavid a year later.</div></div>
Fair point. I'd argue that Draisaitl is a top-3 player in the league and should be worth that contract at minimum for 5 of those 7 years.

But regardless and more important than that, Sharks management should be desperate to get back some excitement for the fans, bring some excitement to the team. If they miss out on Celebrini, Draisaitl makes a world of sense as a free agent target to complement their young top-6 center in Will Smith, particularly given the team's plethora of cap space (and this situation assumes that Couture's 8mil doesn't go on LTIR to give them even more room). Plattner is also more than willing to spend.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 mars à 18 h 45
Sujet: SJ Potential Lineup in 2025 with Celebrini Reinhart Toffoli Walker Burns
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jamnjon</b></div><div>I doubt it will cost 8M for a 40-year old Burns even if it's just a 1-year deal, and I don't think the Sharks will have that much success from their prospects by the 25-26 season. I'll be very happy if I'm proven wrong. Also, what grounds are you using for putting Pickles on Robidas Island? I could see Cooch being there with his injury but we haven't seen anything they can use to put Pickles there.</div></div>
These are dark times... false hope is the only thing keeping this Sharks fan going.

Yea, I can see Vlasic ending his final year primarily as a scratch or waived to the Cuda so here I'll give him a taxi ride down the street from SAP to Tech CU.

Burns should cost less, agreed, just being conservative here. It'd be just a 1 year deal so it wouldn't effect this proposal much.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 févr. à 15 h 30
Sujet: Sharks 7 TDL Moves Sign Guentzel Reinhart Hanifin Land Celebrini
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>By what metric are you referring. All the stats I can see show him as a below average player even among his peers on the Sharks.
(All stats 5v5, all comparisons are vs forwards with 500+ min)

Expected Goals per 60: 0.54 (3rd worst on SJ, 11th percentile)
Goals per 60: 0.39 (3rd worst on SJ, 9th%)
Points per 60: 1.38 (2nd best on SJ, 26th%)
Faceoff win: 49.1% (2nd best on SJ, 62nd%)
Corsi: 41% (Tied worst on SJ, 4th%)
Expected Goals against per 60: 3.42 (2nd worst on SJ, 0th%)
Shooting Talent Above Average: -4% (4th worst on SJ, 31st%)
Created xgoals: 4.5 (2nd worst on SJ, 5th%)

All of the individual stats above are very similar to his career numbers and numbers with Pit last year.

His PP numbers are also not good, though they are better than with Pit last year.

Granlund appears to be a worse version on Monahan, who did (surprisingly) net a 1st. So it is possible someone will overpay but based on his stats, a 3rd would be an overpayment for Granlund.

Side note, great username. One of the best on this site.</div></div>
Appreciate it 👍🏻

Also, those stats are surprising. But I was arguing more so in favor of Granlund's zone entries and puck possession strengths. I just checked his RAPM chart and he's slightly above average in terms of his impact in the offensive and neutral zones, so that checks out, though I still expected it to be higher.

It's worth noting that he's gotten better as the season progressed. He was exactly the no-show terrible player I expected from him for the first 15-20 games of the season, but he lit a switch and has been great since then, at least by the eye test.

In sum, a 1st is probably a stretch, but a 3rd at 2.5mil for another year locked in at that value I think is too low too. A middle-ground late 2nd rounder seems reasonable to expect from a depth-depleted team like COL who could use him, or DAL.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 déc. 2023 à 19 h 59
Sujet: Vlasic for Armia
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matthias893</b></div><div>Sharks don't need cap relief by trading Vlasic. We have like 34m in space next year even with him on the books and a buyout this summer or next would save more space than this deal would when you take into account Armia coming back.

Joel Armia probably isn't going to be a apart of the Sharks future anymore than Vlasic is really going to be a part of Montreal's long term future. This deal doesn't really do anything for SJ so we'd essentially be tying up a retention slot for 3 years for nothing. Even talking conservatively that slot could be used to bring back 2 or 3 picks over that time, which would be better for us than Armia.</div></div>
This proposed trade is a good idea in theory but matthias hit the nail on the head here.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 sept. 2023 à 16 h 27