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Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 8 heures
Sujet:
2024 NSH
Not a fan of the Gustafsson signing. NSH has enough LDs already (it's Lauzon's natural side, Del Gaizo isn't waivers exempt anymore, Stastney is NHL ready). Plus, it's too much money for him anyway. Give Carrier that money instead.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
il y a 16 heures
Sujet:
BIG off season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JZ_DAL</b></div><div>only way OTT can take on Saros is if Norris or Korpisalo are gone, definitely not taking him unless 1 of the goalies are gone aswell, I had Laughton & FLA 1st for Chychrun, I would give BOS & FLA 1st, Korpisalo & Jarventie for Saros</div></div>
Meh, I don't love it for NSH. I might be more open to it if NSH had a buy out slot available, if Korpisalo can't be fixed.
I really don't think OTT is NSH's best trade partner, when it comes to Saros. The Sens' prospect pool doesn't have much to offer NSH, and any players OTT would be willing to move don't do much for the Preds either. OTT's own 1st in 2024 is really the only asset they have that might entice Trotz to move Saros, before next season's deadline (assuming NSH isn't in a playoff position and/or Askarov has shown he's ready to be an NHL starter).
I think NSH could get a return that works better for them from other teams, like NJ, LA or CAR.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 17 h 39
Sujet:
BIG off season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JZ_DAL</b></div><div>Norris, Jarventie & BOS 1st is for Saros then Sogaard to take on Korpisalo contract</div></div>
No thanks on Norris. He hasn't proven he's worth that contract when he's healthy, and he can't stay healthy.
A not great #3 goalie isn't close to enough to take on four years of Korpisalo.
NSH counters with OTT and BOS' 2024 1sts for Saros.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 17 h 20
Sujet:
BIG off season
No one is going to take on Norris' contract, until he proves he can stay healthy and productive for at least a full season - it's a huge risk, not an asset.
Korpisalo is a multi-year cap dump.
Søgaard isn't good either. He doesn't add any value.
The two actual assets here don't amount to enough for Saros - even without the bad contracts dragging down the value here.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Hier à 12 h 55
Sujet:
Chychrun Is Gone
That's a pretty weak offer for Saros. The picks are underwhelming, and Forsberg drags the value down further.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 21 h 13
Sujet:
Dark Horse
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>Marner is worth substantially more than Saros alone. Preds would have to add in something like this</div></div>
I think adding a 1st and the better player in the Sissons-Liljegren part is too substantial already.
Marner isn't the player or at the position I'd target if I was going all in for one year, and that's not a move that makes sense for NSH right now. There's no chance of being able to re-sign him either without decimating the roster, if they get Norris too.
Going with a rookie with 3 games experience and Brossoit in that scenario probably has too much potential to go badly as well.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 14 h 13
Sujet:
Next season
Is CHI trying to break the record for most healthy scratches in the pressbox?
Everyone declines.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 12 h 55
Sujet:
BradyChychrunBranny Out - KyrouFabbroEhlers In
No interest in Chychrun from NSH.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 11 h 1
Sujet:
Retry for next season
NSH declines. This Pens team will continue to do so too. Bringing in a new 3rd pair D isn't enough to turn them around.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 10 h 55
Sujet:
Slight Retool
A multi-year camp dump, and a sprinkling of marginal futures? That's not getting you Saros.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 42
Sujet:
Bored
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FireShanahanTrelivingKeefe</b></div><div>Abrusseze is actually better then his draft position shows, a very good playmaker has 50 points each season on Marlies.
Maybe you guys only add a 5th or 6th instead .</div></div>
Abrusseze is a solid AHler, but I don't see the NHL upside with him, and he'd have less of a chance to move up with NSH than he does with TOR.
Less than no interest in Kämpf, though. NSH has a lot of center depth (O'Reilly, Novak, Glass, Sissons, McCarron, Jankowski, Pärssinen, Afansyev). There's no room for Kämpf, and with almost $12M in dead cap space next season, NSH really doesn't need his contract on the books.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 7
Sujet:
Offseason with 87M cap
No thanks from NSH.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 6
Sujet:
Offseason
Easy pass from NSH. Not the right team to try and trade an LD to.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
lun. à 16 h 5
Sujet:
Bored
NSH declines.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 12 h 27
Sujet:
Trying to fix it
The 1st from NJ is a start, but the rest of the proposal doesn't make sense for NSH. They shouldn't be giving up their 1st in a Saros deal, and they don't have any need of Bahl or Schmid.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 12 h 23
Sujet:
Leafs
Hard pass on taking on Norris and Korpisalo's contracts.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
sam. à 11 h 37
Sujet:
Nashville 24-25
I think that's too much for Hronek, but NSH isn't the right team for him anyway. Why spend whatever assets to acquire him plus whatever his new contract will be, when you already have an elite offensive defenseman in Josi?
No thanks on Laine.
Wood just transferred to a new college. He's not turning pro just yet.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 17 h 46
Sujet:
Another elite team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>seanrushton</b></div><div>For a pair of bottom-sixers... I don't think so... Maybe another piece going towards the Preds but not multiple high round picks</div></div>
Kotkaniemi's the worst player in that trade, and the worst contract either organization has. Even Caniac2000 would love this deal for CAR.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 17 h 39
Sujet:
Another elite team
Even for future considerations, why would NSH want Kotkaniemi? They've got a surplus of better depth centers that make much less.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 14 h 40
Sujet:
Next year
NSH declines. No interest in Bastian or Holtz.
The only thing of real value here for the Preds is the 1st. It's not enough for them to trade Saros, and especially not for them to give away Sissons and NSH's last retention spot too.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
12 avr. à 10 h 48
Sujet:
taking suggestions for NSHs next 3rd jersey in the comments
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>A backup managing to be 4th in TOTAL GSAx makes it all the more impressive.
I don't believe in giving an extension to a goalie until they play on your team. Too much risk not seeing how they adapt (and Saros isn't going to raise his price with his play)
Juuse Saros is 1 year away from UFA. That makes him a rental. Simple as that.</div></div>
Cool.
I guess the silver lining is that you only have to wit another 10-11 years until Schneider's kid is old enough to draft, and then you can finally be happy again.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 22 h 58
Sujet:
taking suggestions for NSHs next 3rd jersey in the comments
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Cory Schneider was FOURTH in TOTAL GSAx in the 3 years prior. </div></div>
Those are backup numbers. Gotta pump those games played up.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>
And I'd argue goalie prices have gone down, not up.
Based on how NHL teams have shown to value goalies:
-They pay them less than they used to
-They draft them later than they used to
-They trade less for them than they used to
And goaltending is getting younger and younger, and more and more volatile.
All of this suggest that a 1 year goalie rental is worth a lot less than it used to be</div></div>
I disagree that trade values trend up or down like that, like you suggest. The highest level goalies get traded so infrequently to begin with, there isn't enough data to establish patterns or trends anyway. That's why this decade old Schneider trade keeps getting thrown around like the gold standard of trade value, by the "goalies aren't worth that much" crowd.
Also, why wouldn't you re-sign Saros, so that he's not a rental? If NJ is a team with good leadership and a bright future, that should be an easy sell to any player. If it's not a team a player that wants to win would choose, a sign and trade after July 1st like many Devils fans want isn't going to be an option anyway.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 19 h 9
Sujet:
taking suggestions for NSHs next 3rd jersey in the comments
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>The concern with any goalie is valid.
I would very strongly argue that 1 year of control on Saros, following a year where he hasn't been elite, is not worth more than 2 years of 26 year old Cory Schneider was.</div></div>
I would prefer the known quality, but I understand that some might prefer betting on the unproven guy potentially having even more upside than the elite player. I'll agree to disagree with you on that point.
What I would strongly argue is that what NJ paid for a goalie one time over ten years ago has no bearing on what NSH should trade Saros for, in the present day.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 18 h 8
Sujet:
taking suggestions for NSHs next 3rd jersey in the comments
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>Schneider's fall off was after 3 years as a full time starter in his age 30 season.
Saros became a starter 1 year earlier, so next year would be his age 29 season, but in the same point of progression.
Saros has been mediocre this year imo.</div></div>
Schneider falling off after three seasons as a starter doesn't mean that's going to happen to every other goalie too.
That's some flawed extrapolation, IMO. Like seeing an elite goalie have a below average first half of the season, due to something like struggling to adjust under a new coach's unfamiliar system, and assuming the rest of his season went badly. Or that he's definitely falling off for good, like that one other guy from years back.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 avr. à 17 h 32
Sujet:
Summer
Nothing in that offer as useful to NSH as Sissons is. Preds decline.
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