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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 8 h 58
Sujet: Fukkit
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>As long as Hellebuyck wants to stay, it wouldn't be wise to move him unless they get an impact player with term or acquire an elite goalie with term through a trade. It's a challenge for them to attract FAs, so that move might set them into rebuild mode for a long time. I think they are retooling already as they are looking to move Scheifele or open to it at least. They probably want to bolster their defense core and wouldn't want to trade DeMelo even for Sandin</div></div>
Will be interesting off-season, going to be one of the most important coaching hires they have had in Winnipeg. Right coach probably smart enough to convince scheifele that it’s in his best interest to stay and continue the path. There would be teams that outbid this package quite easily, especially if jerseys 2 oa pick is in play.
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 23 h 59
Sujet: Wild times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Remember that JC Lipon kid they had, he played that grinder agitator style but they never gave him a chance and considering they've never really pieced together a good 4th line would he have been any worse than what they've had, probably not.

I've heard some stories about Lemieux too but who knows what's true or not.

Ugh gawd was just thinking too of how amazing Ehlers/Scheifele/Laine looked when they were together ever so briefly but of course they couldn't be left together AND we knew Little worked with Wheeler and Connor and Little seemed to have good chemistry anytime they ended up out together, KC/Little/Wheeler probably would've been a great 2nd line!

Man I was always calling out Maurice for his ****ty lines and always doing the same thing over and over yet some would defend him, well those people and Maurice can phuK OFF!!
LOL 😆</div></div>

Always seem to be caught in between who they are, they were a big tough entertaining team, with enough skill to play with anyone, now they are undersized and not anymore skilled and aged. I remember lipon, solid hungry kid, might be telling that he never truly caught on anywhere else. But still think Chevy and zinger over there heads, both damn good ahl gms. Chevy should be canned on chicago debacle, if he knew he should be canned and If he didn’t know he should be canned. Always just an opinion
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 23 h 11
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 23 h 5
Sujet: Wild times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>You know I was thinking about your boy Lemieux and how I never thought they utilized him right, imagine if they would've made a 4th line of Lemieux/Lowry/Dano, three physical **** disturbers and Lemieux and Dano produced like a 4th liner should in the 15-20 point range so good production for that line, gotta think Lowry would produce around the same as he does now in a 4th line role.

Could've made a good 3rd line of Perreault/Copp/Roslovic or Armia.. Ugh 😑, Maurice was hopeless!</div></div>
Atrocious cap management to sum up your statement, getting scooped by Pittsburgh, paying a premium to Vegas on expansion, and never developing anything really outside of top 17 first rounders, possibly 25 ish but running 50/50 with vesa and roslovic
Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 23 h 3
Sujet: Wild times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>You know I was thinking about your boy Lemieux and how I never thought they utilized him right, imagine if they would've made a 4th line of Lemieux/Lowry/Dano, three physical **** disturbers and Lemieux and Dano produced like a 4th liner should in the 15-20 point range so good production for that line, gotta think Lowry would produce around the same as he does now in a 4th line role.

Could've made a good 3rd line of Perreault/Copp/Roslovic or Armia.. Ugh 😑, Maurice was hopeless!</div></div>

Jets have a love in for choir boys, heard stories of Lemieux showing up drunk to practice and some chaos, but year after year, those are the guys that are first into the battles and scrums, then your stars are playing a inch or two taller and a few pounds heavier and the jets definitely need that. Chevy tenure has survived on the amateur scouting and him basically staying out of the way. Another note every cup winner has a grind line or two that are put in a position to be successful, everything else being equal, a lot of the times the difference. Jets got bullied and ambushed by Vegas and have been running scared ever since.
Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 21 h 29
Sujet: Wild times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>Maurice's lack of creativity and catering to Scheifele/Wheeler plus Chevys inactivity in roster building has been their downfall.

Maurice couldn't build a line to save his life especially with his 3rd and 4th lines, he had soooo many decent players over the years that he could've tried different trios with yet he just kept doing the same things over and over and over again.

How many trades that could've improved the team did Chevy miss out on, tons of trades involving guys with no trade protection happened over the years but of course Chevy isn't in on them for some reason.

It's been death by a 1000 cuts and now they're left with a small nucleus of great players but that's it, will take monster seasons from 27, 81, 80 and 55 if he's still a Jet and big breakouts from Perfetti and Lucius for this team to gain any ground, I'm not expecting Chevy to make the moves that are needed, will likely be just more of the same.</div></div>
Well said, I think the team is happy with full ish houses and player milestone nights.
Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 20 h 13
Sujet: Wild times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>It’s crazy
A few years ago, the Jets looked like the were gonna be like Colorado- competing for the Cup on a yearly basis
Tough to figure out what went wrong,
but at this point changes need to be made

Idk that they go “full rebuild” right now, bc they do have tons of talent, but i don’t think there’s any question at this point that they at least need a sizable shakeup

Seems like Schiefele will be the first piece they move
Getting a guy like Krebs keeps them competing now, and helps for years to come

It’ll be interesting to see what other moves they make
(or don’t make)</div></div>

Little bit of bad luck, bad injury, and possibly overly loyal to a few of the wrong people. Buffy retirement and mass exodus off the blue line hurt. Little injury hurt, and overly loyal to Maurice and wheeler possibly a mistake. There’s quite a fine line that teams like Buffalo Columbus and Winnipeg need to run without a lot of help from free agency, going to need to be near perfect on contract extensions and drafting, and have some luck in trades.
Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 19 h 26
Sujet: Wild times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Buffalove</b></div><div>Yeah, i like Krebs as a prospect/young player
He’s obviously got some developing to do, but u can see the talent is there
Of course, I’d prefer not to give him up
But Scheifele is a legit “1C” imo

What’s going on with him in Winnipeg?
Why does he want out?</div></div>

Nothing too official on wanting out, just rumours and innuendos, rumours of Lowry being with his date, and also cancer rumours of wheeler and scheifele running the room, and getting rid of laine. Only team and only pro city he has known, so possibly wants to be respected a little more and I think his bargain contract kind of irritates him also, but alot of this statement is speculation. Winnipeg kind of at a crossroads, but fanbase may keep nucleus and keep going for it, no matter what. Chevy probably has to also to keep his gig. Not adding prospects for next guy.
Forum: Armchair-GMmer. à 18 h 27
Sujet: Wild times
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>I hear ya'. That's why I don't understand why so many people think the Jets will move Scheifele with a winger as the main piece coming back.

The Jets know how hard it is to get 2 legit top 6 centers, I don't see them rushing to put themselves in that position again. Unless Scheifele really starts making noise, I think the most likely scenario is that he stays a Jet until management no longer has a choice.</div></div>
I’m just hoping that the right coach comes in and solves any scheifele issues going forward, right coach has to understand his best chance is a bought in scheifele with a hungry Dubois up the middle. Might need a little more play able size on the blueline but this squad still could be interesting going forward.
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