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Créé par: Zegrasnoob
Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 mai 2024
Publié: 24 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
1 : Mason Mctavish value is a top-5 choice. Ducks need a young right D-man, Calgary's choice is gonna be a top-8 choice.

2 : Edmonton needs a young goalie, and David Savard can help the catastrophic situation of the Edmonton goalie's.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 510 000 $
22 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
43 100 000 $
33 900 000 $
33 200 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
    Future considerations
    SJS
    1. Anderson, Josh
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
    2.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (CBJ)
    CBJ
    1. Dvorak, Christian (2 200 000 $ retained)
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (MTL)
    3.
    MTL
    1. Kaliyev, Arthur [Droits de RFA]
    LAK
    1. Harris, Jordan
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
    4.
    ANA
    1. Mailloux, Logan
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (CGY)
    5.
    EDM
    1. Primeau, Cayden
    2. Savard, David
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2024
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de COL
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MIN
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de SJS
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de EDM
    Logo de WSH
    2025
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de NJD
    Logo de VAN
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de DET
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MTL
    2026
    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MTL
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    Logo de MTL
    Logo de MTL
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    Logo de MTL
    Logo de CBJ
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2387 700 000 $76 310 417 $1 022 500 $7 170 000 $11 389 583 $

    Formation

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    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 7
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
    C
    UFA - 6
    Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
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    5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
    AG, AD
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
    AD, AG
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    835 000 $835 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
    2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
    AD, AG
    RFA
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    812 500 $812 500 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
    G
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
    DG
    RFA - 2
    3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
    G
    UFA
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    2 510 000 $2 510 000 $
    DG/DD
    RFA
    3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
    DD
    UFA
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    766 667 $766 667 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
    10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 2

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    24 mai à 9 h 33
    #1
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    Orrrrrrrrr. The ducks just take a top D-man with the 3rd overall pick and keep McTavish
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    24 mai à 9 h 39
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    Quoting: Logicalicesports
    Orrrrrrrrr. The ducks just take a top D-man with the 3rd overall pick and keep McTavish


    Logan mailloux can be a good second line D-man, and with that CGY choice (Calgary is starting a rebuild), you can draft a new Mason Mctavish, or possibly a better player.
    24 mai à 9 h 40
    #3
    Nah.
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    I'd buy Dvorak out for that price
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    24 mai à 9 h 43
    #4
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    McTavish is untouchable fella

    This is a hideous offer for a 21 year old top 6 center
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    24 mai à 9 h 49
    #5
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    It will cost a lot more than a 4th to dump Anderson on anyone.
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    24 mai à 9 h 52
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    First Dvorak-to-the-Jackets trade I've seen that would be acceptable.
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    24 mai à 9 h 53
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    Quoting: Viqsi
    First Dvorak-to-the-Jackets trade I've seen that would be acceptable.


    What were the others ?
    24 mai à 10 h 13
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    Habs don't need to sell off Dvorak so taking up a retention spot to do it is a horrible idea

    That LA trade is brutal for the Habs, Kaliyev doesn't have equal value to Harris let alone adding a 2nd round pick to him

    Habs also wouldn't touch Kane, they're trying to get younger so selling off assets for old wingers isn't in the play book right now

    Anaheim doesn't touch that deal, I think Verbeek would like Mallioux but until he proves something at the NHL level he doesn't have that value
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    24 mai à 10 h 14
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    Quoting: Zegrasnoob
    What were the others ?


    Not specifically with CBJ (I'm a Sharks fan so I've noticed bad ones coming to the Sharks), but I've seen plenty where people aren't retaining and the Sharks are giving mid round picks as opposed to getting something for taking on the bad contract.
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    24 mai à 10 h 22
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    Quoting: Viqsi
    First Dvorak-to-the-Jackets trade I've seen that would be acceptable.


    We do love our London Knights here in Columbus
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    24 mai à 10 h 32
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    Quoting: Zegrasnoob
    Logan mailloux can be a good second line D-man, and with that CGY choice (Calgary is starting a rebuild), you can draft a new Mason Mctavish, or possibly a better player.


    Ducks arent going to go backwards in their rebuild, what kind of logic is that? Mctavish, a key piece of a rebuild, lets trade him for an unproven, middle ceiling D-man at best, even though the ducks have one of the deepest Defense prospect pools AND then draft another mctavish and push back the rebuild by 3 more years? not 1% of this trade idea makes any sense
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    24 mai à 10 h 34
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    Quoting: Zegrasnoob
    Logan mailloux can be a good second line D-man, and with that CGY choice (Calgary is starting a rebuild), you can draft a new Mason Mctavish, or possibly a better player.


    Who would be your next Mason Mctavish from this draft? Because after Celebrini and Demidov 3rd overall will be a RHD. No McTavish in this draft. And you are thinking the Flames pick will be worth the former 3rd overall centerman, it would have to be the first overall pick to generate any interest there
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    24 mai à 10 h 50
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    Edmonton declines. They don't need old, slow defensemen and they don't need another young goalie.
    24 mai à 10 h 58
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    Quoting: Logicalicesports
    Who would be your next Mason Mctavish from this draft? Because after Celebrini and Demidov 3rd overall will be a RHD. No McTavish in this draft. And you are thinking the Flames pick will be worth the former 3rd overall centerman, it would have to be the first overall pick to generate any interest there


    Their choice is in 2025 (Calgary)...
    24 mai à 11 h 37
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    To begin with, remind yourself of the conditions on the Calgary 2025 first.

    McTavish is one of our top 2 centermen right now. Trading him now would require replacing him immediately, which is the point that @Logicalicesports was trying to make to you and you didn't understand.

    Here's a simple way to grasp how atrocious this idea is: Artyom Levshunov or Anton Silayev (at least one of whom will be available at #3) are far better prospects than Mailloux, which was Logical's first point, and McTavish is worth far, far more than a future first that will be in the second half of the round.
    24 mai à 11 h 41
    #16
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    Dvorak is on the last year of his deal. He doesn't have much value but you don't have to pay to get rid of him. Anderson trade is meh. Rest are laughable.
    24 mai à 12 h 18
    #17
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    Quoting: Zegrasnoob
    Logan mailloux can be a good second line D-man, and with that CGY choice (Calgary is starting a rebuild), you can draft a new Mason Mctavish, or possibly a better player.


    Considering we all know that's going to become the Florida pick, no, no we can't, nice try though.
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    24 mai à 12 h 29
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    Come to think of it, maybe San Jose would be interested in Mailloux and the Winnipeg first for #14 overall.

    By the way, inasmuch as Kirby Dach should be the third alternative on his line in the faceoff circle and McTavish wins more than 50% of his face-offs, a better lineup would have been Kane - McTavish - Dach.
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    24 mai à 13 h 58
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    Quoting: jamnjon
    Not specifically with CBJ (I'm a Sharks fan so I've noticed bad ones coming to the Sharks), but I've seen plenty where people aren't retaining and the Sharks are giving mid round picks as opposed to getting something for taking on the bad contract.

    Yep, pretty much this. Making us pay to take him on rather than paying us to do so.
    24 mai à 22 h 28
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    Why would you give up so much for a locker room cancer like Kane
    SJ going to need alot more to take cap dump anderson
     
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